How much of an effect does school uniforms have on you as parents? Most schools in Pakistan usually have the dresses for little girls and then maybe skirts and dress shirts while some have shalwar kameez. I can see how some parents would not want their daughters wearing skirts, esp. in out in public but does it really make a difference? I’m not a parent but I dont see any issue with skirts as uniforms if they are knee-length which most tend to be.
I personally dont like the look of shalwar kameez and dupattas on little girls, makes me kinda’ sad to see they dont get to be kids and have to already start worrying about such things. Of course these schools usually are the ones in rural areas or not very “British” or “American”.
Also, swimming is another issue. I dont see what the big deal is if swim suits (one pieces or even with shorts) are worn in school. I know most private schools in Lahore, Karachi and Islamabad have the girls either wear shorts or one pieces. The lahore swim team for girls (ages 9-16) wear one-pieces and some parents wouldn’t feel comfortable in it but obviously it isn’t a big issue to most parents since it IS being worn now.
Thoughts on uniforms? What restrictions do you guys have? Would you allow your daughters (under the age of 16) to wear skirts or shorts if required by the school?
p.s. Mods, please leave this thread here and not in the fashion & beauty section.
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and what make me sad is to see parent and kids worrying about brands and whats in and whats out. It make me kinda sad to see that they dont get to be kid and rather a fashion icon or statement.
I personally dont like the look of shalwar kameez and dupattas on little girls, makes me kinda' sad to see they dont get to be kids and have to already start worrying about such things.
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what worries me more is ok fine our parents what they did , but we think of ourselves as super intellectuals discussingand giving advises on life and relationships but is this what we are going to teach our kids - really ,, i mean future is something that we can control but seems like we are completely off course here
if these are the kinds of opinions we have , our kids will be 10 steps a head
and what make me sad is to see parent and kids worrying about brands and whats in and whats out. It make me kinda sad to see that they dont get to be kid and rather a fashion icon or statement.
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This.
This type of thinking is exactly whats corroding Pakistani social structure, and making it such a shallow, idle, inferior complex ridden society completely devoid of self respect. You have burger kids from all Holy "American" and "British" schools looking down at kids from government schools and their uniforms which happens to be damned shalwar kameez. Them kids in shalwar kameez for the burger crowd is a symbol of supression, low class, backwardness etc etc.
The amount of superficiality and 'materialistic morality' that exists within the Pakistani youth is simply digusting.
Don't take it just another thread in life1....this is a story of Pakistan.
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im sorry but i have to confirm -
so you are saying are ok/fine with knee length skirts for girls?
what do you mean when you say you dont see a big deal in girls wearing swim suits?
How much of an effect does school uniforms have on you as parents? Most schools in Pakistan usually have the dresses for little girls and then maybe skirts and dress shirts while some have shalwar kameez. I can see how some parents would not want their daughters wearing skirts, esp. in out in public but does it really make a difference? I'm not a parent but I dont see any issue with skirts as uniforms if they are knee-length which most tend to be.
I personally dont like the look of shalwar kameez and dupattas on little girls, makes me kinda' sad to see they dont get to be kids and have to already start worrying about such things. Of course these schools usually are the ones in rural areas or not very "British" or "American".
Also, swimming is another issue. I dont see what the big deal is if swim suits (one pieces or even with shorts) are worn in school. I know most private schools in Lahore, Karachi and Islamabad have the girls either wear shorts or one pieces. The lahore swim team for girls (ages 9-16) wear one-pieces and some parents wouldn't feel comfortable in it but obviously it isn't a big issue to most parents since it IS being worn now.
Thoughts on uniforms? What restrictions do you guys have? Would you allow your daughters (under the age of 16) to wear skirts or shorts if required by the school?
p.s. Mods, please leave this thread here and not in the fashion & beauty section.
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Whether in pakistan or england, i wouldnt be comfortable with my little girl wearing a skirt, even if it up to her knees. Id rather she be protected from the eyes of paedophiles than look "fashionable". The world is a bad place and modesty is more for our own protection than for expressing our faith.
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I wouldn't be comfortable of my daughter wearing a skirt pass the age of 5. I don't see anything wrong with pakistani school dress codes including shalwar kameez and dupatta....what does wearing a shalawar kmeez have to do with not being able to be a kid ?
If the swimming pool was segregated I would be okay with my daughter wearing shorts (to the knee) and a swim top ... as allowed in Islam.
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A lot of pakistani families in Pakistan are so caught up with this whole fashion/westernization concept that they've started equating being "MODREN" with vulgarity. You can be modern in a shalwar kameez following Islamic rules and you can be a jahil, backwards, close-minded animal even if you're dressed in the most expensive western wear available.
Shalwar kameez is Pakistan's libaas, why should anyone look down on anyone else wearing it? It actually makes me sad that when I go to Pakistan I look like a fool because I'm the one trying hard to speak Urdu and wear shalwar kameez.
Okay, rant done. (I just came back from Lahore and I'm more than a little frustrated at how ridiculous Pakistani mentality is getting...something that I was exposed to a little too much considering I was there for Eid). On the topic: no I would not let my girl wear shorts or skirts or bathing suits after 5 or 6. up to 16 is far too old. Islamically once you hit puberty you're an adult and obligated to follow all rulings and that's how I intend to raise my children, iA. I wasn't allowed to wear shorts or capris or sleeveless growing up--after the age of 6--and I think I'm modern enough and function fine in American society.
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Whether in pakistan or england, i wouldnt be comfortable with my little girl wearing a skirt, even if it up to her knees. Id rather she be protected from the eyes of paedophiles than look "fashionable". The world is a bad place and modesty is more for our own protection than for expressing our faith.
pedophiles do not care if your child is wearing a skirt or shalwar or even a full on burqa.
what matters to them is that
they are under the age of 15
can be manipulated
and wont tell their parents.
I'm on from the GS app so will reply individually to people later but I wanted to clarify that I don't have a problem with shalwar kameez and dupattas. Sheesh. I meant little girls as small as 5 wearing chador-style dupattas on their head.
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I'm on from the GS app so will reply individually to people later but I wanted to clarify that I don't have a problem with shalwar kameez and dupattas. Sheesh. I meant little girls as small as 5 wearing chador-style dupattas on their head.
are you using gs android application. it sucks. :@:
Re: Parents of daughters: School Uniforms & Modesty
I'm on from the GS app so will reply individually to people later but I wanted to clarify that I don't have a problem with shalwar kameez and dupattas. Sheesh. I meant little girls as small as 5 wearing chador-style dupattas on their head.
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There is the thought here that only government and paindu schools in Pakistan have shawar kamiz as a uniform. That's wrong most good schools (Not the upper upper ones but very good ones like St Joseph's Mamam Parsi etc. and other good ones ) have shalwar kameez too.
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I think it's sexist to make girls wear skirts. Why can't they wear trousers like the boys? You can't ride a bike, climb trees, do cartwheels in a skirt.
Even though I never had to wear one, I'm all for imposing uniforms on pre- college kids. If I had my way I'd continue the uniform into college, but I worry I won't be able to physically tackle and dress them at that age.
I ain't raising consumerist monkeys. I refuse to pay for Disney clothes in elementary/middle school only to worry about adult designer wear as they grow older. They should be thankful they're even getting an education while millions of kids never see the inside of a school. Ungrateful wretches!