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Really it does not matter. sub kirayi ke tatoo hain aor free keema naan khanay walay hain. Haram money Sharif’s spending on these fake shows should be utilized in much needed necessitates for poor public, if they really care for their people.
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The public muscle that they tried to display couldnt flex to even 10%…the only thing that flexed was nawaz sharif’s car engine, which raced off at 130 kph after a dismal showing of supporters.
A great show of farce by mian sahib…who couldnt even be bothered to stand up to address the puny crowd, let alone come out of his cage…despite having a govt in center and Punjab. 3 din ki rally turned into aadhay din ka rolla.
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LoL well there is no reason to debate on this, we know what it achieved and is achieving, you will see in NA 120 and 2018 when KPK comes in N fold as well. Also, when amendments to 62/63 are in house, any one with ideas about taking people out will think twice.
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Corruption needs to be proven. I am trying to say is what you know, PMLN played too nice, time is over. Yes they have center and punjab and Baluchistan but that doesnt mean 5 stupid jokers can make mockery of law. Now amendments to law will be made, judiciary will have check and balance and the right debate with army will start about civilian supremacy. The disqualification is meaningless now, it will be taken care of via amendment and NA 120/2018 will also tell where N league is but its not about no more jokes with constitution or peoples mandate.
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Why not keep courts’ role of checking politicians abandoned, until hramkhors are satisfied?
are you saying there is no one corrupt in Pakistan? Everybody knows there is lot of corruption happen everyday in every institute.
When govt itself is haramkhor, it would not take any initiatives to curb the corruption. keep on ranting.
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Courts can not remain unchecked if Judges can be sold or force to write verdicts on Gun point. Parliament is supreme. Haramkhor judges made joke of law, they must be exposed as they are. The role of judges in paksitan history is no more than of a $2 whore, its time to fix it. First thing first, time to amend constitution, take the zia trash out of it, abolish 62/63. Judiciary either comes under control of Parliament or President. Parliament is and will not become supreme. IF you dont like it, try to get more votes and seats.
Corruption needs to be checked but current set up of NAB is not the right one. NAB has been constantly used by establishment and army to undermine other institutes. Whats done is done but future is bright if Parliament stand up to this mockery of law. Listening to Raza Rabbani and Achakzai, I am hopeful than 62/63 are out in no more than two months from now. PMLN already has 2/3rd in NA and senate after debate it should be done.
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Mark my words, this govt is not going to do it. Reason is simple, PMLn itself is corrupt to the core. you cannot check judges when you are corrupt.
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Sure Marked. If they dont abrogate 62/63, they will get something else out of it. Amendment will happen to pave way for NS to be either President or chief of party again but more so to remove this establishment weapon. They have votes to pass any amendment through NA and enough leverage to further pass it in Senate. This was never the case with any other party before and in future again only PMLN will have these majorities. Constitution will be amended now.
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Also I dont know if PMLN is corrupt to the core, something some one need to prove but its a known fact that Jamat i ****** is a prostitute of establishment and are instrumental in rise of secratarian violence, advent to taliban and responsible for killing 50K civilians. There is a reason Jamat i ****** is Trashed in elections every time.
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You mean, state’s leader should stay even if he/she is corrupt/haramkhor? exactly jyala logic.
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If standing up to 5 jokers removing an elected PM becuase they think that salary not taken is an asset than yes I am jiyala. These five haramkhor b@stards are now on the steak. When and if you or some one can prove actual corruption of public money, I will quite PMLN but until than I am standing firm. There is no corruption, there never was … the losers of 1971 war, Abbottabad, Siachen just dont want to to be questioned by civilians for their mishaps. Honestly, I rather have few smaller countries where people have more power than one country where one satanic institute is enslaving its people.
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so you want your leader stay even if he is corrupt? That is why you are going to remove those clauses?
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[RIGHT]امریکی صدر ٹرمپ اپنے انتہاپسند بیانئے کی بدولت اقتدار میں آیا۔ ایک سال پر محیط الیکشن کیمپین مسلمانوں کے خلاف نفرت انگیز تقاریر، تارکین وطن پر پابندی لگانے اور ’ خالص ’ امریکیوں (یعنی گوروں) کے مفاد کو ترجیح دینے کے وعدوں پر مشتمل تھی جس کی وجہ سے مضافاتی علاقوں کے لوگوں اور قدامت پسند امریکیوں نے دل کھول کر ٹرمپ کو ووٹ دیئے۔صدر بننے کے بعد ٹرمپ پر سب سے زیادہ پریشر یہی تھا کہ اپنے ووٹر کو فوری طور پر خوش کرسکے، چنانچہ اس نے آؤ دیکھا نہ تاؤ، 7 مسلمان ممالک کے شہریوں پر پابندی کا آرڈیننس جاری کردیا جس کی وجہ سے ان ممالک سے سفر کیلئے آئے مسلمان ائیرپورٹس پر پھنس کر رہ گئے۔معاملہ فوری طور پر عدالت میں گیا اور جج نے امریکی صدر کا آرڈیننس مسترد کردیا۔ ریاستی جج سے یہ معاملہ سپریم کورٹ میں گیا اور وہاں بھی ٹرمپ کو شکست ہوئی۔ اس نے چند ہفتوں کے بعد کچھ ترامیم کے بعد یہ آرڈیننس پھر جاری کردیا اور عدالت نے پھر اسے مسترد کردیا جس پر ٹرمپ کو کہنا پڑا کہ عدالت اسے حکومت نہیں کرنے دے رہی۔
ٹرمپ کے ان الفاظ پر میڈیا اور کانگریس میں طوفان مچ گیا اور لوگوں نے اسے عدالتی سسٹم پر حملے کے مترادف قرار دے دیا۔ ٹرمپ کو فوری طور پر وضاحتی ٹویٹ جاری کرنا پڑا کہ اس کے بیان کا غلط مطلب لیا گیا۔
یاد رکھیں، وزیراعظم کو برطرف کرنے سے جمہوریت خطرے میں نہیں پڑتی، بلکہ ملک کے سب سے بڑے انصاف کے ادارے سے اپنی کرپشن پر نااہل ہونے کے بعد اس پر حملہ آور ہونے سے جمہوریت کے ساتھ ساتھ ملک کی بنیاد بھی ہل کر رہ جائے گی۔
یہ وہی عدالت ہے جس نے 1993 میں نوازشریف کی اسمبلی بحال کی تو معتبر ٹھہری، اسی عدالت نے نوازشریف کے خلاف مشرف کے ناجائز اقدامات کو ختم کیا تو تعریف کی حقدار ٹھہری، اسی عدالت نے نوازشریف سمیت اپوزیشن کے مطالبے پر یوسف رضا گیلانی کو وزارت عظمی سے برطرف کیا تو نوازشریف کی نظروں میں نظام کے استحکام کا سبب بنی۔
آج اسی عدالت نے نوازشریف کی بدترین کرپشن پر جب اسے برطرف کیا تو جمہوریت خطرے میں پڑگئی؟
خدا کی قسم اگر وہاں کے صدر کی نوازشریف کی طرح دولت بیرون ملک پکڑی جاتی اور وہ اسے جائز ثابت کرنے کیلئے ایک بھی بنک ٹرانزیکشن ثابت نہ کرپاتا تو عدالت تو اسےسزا دیتی ہی، عوام کی نظروں میں وہ ہمیشہ ہمیشہ کیلئے ذلیل و خوار ہوجاتا۔
امریکہ اور پاکستان میں جوفرق ہے، وہ جغرافیائی لوکیشن کا نہیں بلکہ وہاں کے لوگوں کے اجتماعی رویئے کا ہے، اگر آپ اپنے ویلیو سسٹم یعنی اقدار کے معاملے میں اس قدر پستی کا شکار ہوچکے ہیں کہ کرپشن کا ایک مجرم آپ کو مظلوم لگنے لگے تو خطرہ آپ کو انڈیا، اسرائیل یا امریکہ سے نہیں بلکہ آپ کے اپنے ویلیو سسٹم سے ہے۔
جب عوام میں حلال اور حرام کی تمیز ختم ہوجائے تو پھر ان کے ساتھ وہی کچھ ہوتا ہے جو ہمارے ساتھ ہورہا ہے، انشا اللہ، نوازشریف کی حمایت کرنے والے دنیا اور آخرت میں اس کی سزا ضرور پائیں گے!!! بقلم خود باباکوڈا
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Jehlum has frusted NS!
Re: Panama case Final round - NS disqualified (Updated)
What a crock of crap! I live here in US and what Trump did was both supported and opposed by different people, he never backed of on any thing. Every one should be able to speak freely. Judges/Courts/ Army is not holy. If they did something right in 1993 that doesnt mean they cant do wrong. What corruption ? do you even know that there isnothing on corruption. the 5 jokers disrespected People and their vote on technical basis that too are questionable and on either gun point or through their unliking. They disrespected law by bringing their personal judgement in docket, by calling some one God Father, no bloody judge can be this low life to call some one something, judges have to stay in law.
No need to debate on this, its time to fix judiciary and make parliament supreme, it will happen one way or the other, the five low life scums are responsible for this and its important the these judges are put in their place. They cant disrespect people.
As for America, I live here, no judge will ever say Bakwas like these judges and no judge will ever call a party on his own. These scums will not even get in county court here. I have already written a letter to Harvard law where one of the fuk in judge has some assosiation to shame them. To compare US vs. Pakistan first thing first, start respecting vote.
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Nope. The clauses will be removed or amended to protect choice of peple so that 5/6 low life scums are not able to make mockery of vote. For far too long these b@stards at supreme court have gone un noticied and un checked, they murdered an elected PM, they couldnt stood up to a person who murdered Bugtti. Pakistan judicial system is ranked 98. The mother fukers have audacity to quote novels in a serious verdict. I in my profession deal with administrative law on daily basis, i have never seen a more naked, rogure and un just verdict like this. This is why this scum otherwise called as judiciary need to now have check and balance and it happens that the Party has votes / mandate from people to do it.
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How will you fix judiciary? Ye to bata do?
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The final judgment against sharif is too soft keeping in view of what has come out of the box:
My question to supreme court: if SECP chairman can be sent to jail for forging records then why sharifs were saved. kaun si kiddar singhi hai in kay paas?
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hamari qaum haram kha kha kar is nehaj par pohanch chuki hai kay agar halal khilaya jaye to usey hazam nahin hota
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How can qaum become haramkhor? Pakistan is country where most do not even have anything to eat, leave eating haram. On the other hand, there are many who work hard and create enough halal income for themselves, though part of their halal income is lost to Haramkhors. Even amongst Haramkhors, there are some who just manage to fill their basic needs from haram money and some who are living beyond means due to Haramkhori.
Pakistan need laws like China and korea, where any corrupt (haramkhor) who get caught, he gets executed and sent to Jahanum. If that would happen (along with confiscation of entire wealth owned by corrupt and his close family), maybe few tens of thousand (out of 200 millions) would get executed and then Pakistan would become real Pakistan (land of pure).