Pakistani born British Soldier dies in Afghanistan

[mercenary2k]

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@Captain1

If you call Anti-War as Anti-US then by that definition a large population of US will fall into that category, only neo-cons and war-mongers do not live in US.

Be that as it may, do you really think that living in Kabul under the Taliban rather than in Dallas, you can criticize the Taliban government?

Did you read what happened in Somalia when people were shot watching the world cup? Is this really the kind of place you want to grow up?

@Captain1

Had they thrived for longer and provided opportunities, growth I am sure even you would have gone there gladly but sadly they didn't see enough cash and growth to attract people.

How exactly can these people thrive? Besides a mis-interpretation version of Islam what else do these people know? How many universities did the Taliban build?

@Captain1

What we condemn/criticize are the wrong actions be it in name of terrorism, war etc. Some people just tend to walk with sheep.

And If you lived under the Taliban, if you didnt go with the flock, you would be called a heretic and a apostate and killed.

You also know that the Internet was banned under the taliban so I guess no gupshup for you as well:D

[Captain1]

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@mercenary2k

Be that as it may, do you really think that living in Kabul under the Taliban rather than in Dallas, you can criticize the Taliban government?

Read my post again :)

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Did you read what happened in Somalia when people were shot watching the world cup? Is this really the kind of place you want to grow up?
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I have lived in Saudi Arabia, I have lived in Pakistan (esp when 20-30 people were being killed everyday in 1992-1996 era). BTW, do you really read my posts or is it really stuck in you that Taliban are considered angels by me? :)

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How exactly can these people thrive? Besides a mis-interpretation version of Islam what else do these people know? How many universities did the Taliban build?
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How many Universities did Karzai build? Even after getting aid in Millions (if not Billions)? How highly educated has Afghan become in last 5 years?

[risc]

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foreign aid has not gone directly to the goverment. Usualy western contractors who then employ local contractors e.g. $1M road build package ends up with $100k for afghan contractor. Test taken by western contractor. Big mistake by giving aid like this. Giving plenty of money but badly spent.

Karzai may not have built any universities yet but taliban manged to burn down a few schools in the mean time.

Why didnt you live with the taliban?

[Captain1]

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@risc

Why didnt you live with the taliban?

Again, in the love of war you have turned blind. Read my posts again. If I were Afghani I would have gone.

[risc]

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no, I'm sure taliban wouldnt require you to have a Afghan a passport. Why did you not join these saviours?

[Captain1]

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@risc

no, I'm sure taliban wouldnt require you to have a Afghan a passport. Why did you not join these saviours?

yet again, read my prior posts.

[risc]

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Cant find anything of relivance so just answer the question

[tahirbhai]

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Is it haram to make money from US economy ?

It cannot be one way, that we go in plane loads to make money there and when it comes to defending the adopted country, we say we are Muslims first.

It all boils down to my earlier thread - what comes first - country or religion ?

Double standards should also have some ethics !!

@legbreakgoogly

I dispise terrorism, but would I go to Afghanistan to help further oppress those people on the whim of the British govt?

No.

May that boy rot with those he sided with. I'm sure taking up arms WILLINGLY against other Muslims is an act of Kufr.

[Fret_Wizard]

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The British terrorist deserved it.

[mercenary2k]

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@Fret Wizard

The British terrorist deserved it.

why dont u post something more meaningful?

[Captain1]

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@tahirbhai

Is it haram to make money from US economy ?

It cannot be one way, that we go in plane loads to make money there and when it comes to defending the adopted country, we say we are Muslims first.

It all boils down to my earlier thread - what comes first - country or religion ?

Double standards should also have some ethics !!

someone is adapting George W Bush more than US

[tahirbhai]

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Kaptan saab, i was expecting some serious answer. I am not talking of defending GWB but US.

@Captain1

someone is adapting George W Bush more than US

[hareem01]

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@Fret Wizard

The British terrorist deserved it.

mercenary did'nt like your straight forward answer..

[antiobl]

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^^ Guys, this thread was meant to celebrate and discuss the sacrifice of a British soldier of Pak origin.

Brother Tahirbhai open a separate thread if you want to discuss talibanic meance. OK!

[TheRealDeal]

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What this soldier did was no different than the Pak Army is doing in Afghanistan,Waziristan and Balochistan.

So until you condemn the Pak soldiers for fighting the same war on 'terror', don't get on your high horse.

[antiobl]

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@tahirbhai

.....All my posts indirectly are just to highlight the fact that it was supereme sacrifice ant [not] kufr as some members want to portray it.

Well then say so brother tahirbhai! and move on. For everything else, open new thread(s) please.

Brother TRD! be more clear about who is horse, and who is high in this thread. After all this talibanic and tribal mishmash, it has become difficult to understand what you are trying to say. Please!

[risc]

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@TheRealDeal

What this soldier did was no different than the Pak Army is doing in Afghanistan,Waziristan and Balochistan.

So until you condemn the Pak soldiers for fighting the same war on ‘terror’, don’t get on your high horse.

Exactly. SOme go on about how taking arms against other mulims makes you a kuffr but if you shoot thr army, the organisation which implents law of the land, another muslim you are a hero. Need their head checking frickin talibanis.

[Captain1]

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@risc

Exactly. SOme go on about how taking arms against other mulims makes you a kuffr but if you shoot thr army, the organisation which implents law of the land, another muslim you are a hero. Need their head checking frickin talibanis.

I hope you are not referring to me here !

[picoico]

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@antiobl

1. A British soldier of Pakistani origin gave life for his country. That is an admirable act.

Brits have more to fear from their own citizens. Why kill poor afghans over it?

Needless to say, a young Brit of Pakistani origin gave his life for the policy of the Blair government, NOT his country...which was in no clear danger from Afghanistan.

He died because of a neo-con theory, not because of a clear and present danger.

That's not so admirable...

[antiobl]

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@picoico

...., a young Brit of Pakistani origin gave his life for the policy of the Blair government, NOT his country.........

And Blair government exists where? In Britain or on Mars?
What hath you smokn' O brother!