Pakistani born British Soldier dies in Afghanistan

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Muslim soldier who wanted to help

The family of a British Muslim soldier who has died in Afghanistan say he gave his life in an attempt to build bridges between cultures.

Pakistani-born Lance Corporal Jabron Hashmi died along with his comrade Corporal Peter Thorpe, 24, in a Taleban attack on their base in the volatile Helmand province on Saturday.

The 24-year-old, from Bordesley Green in Birmingham, was the first British Muslim serviceman to be killed in action in Afghanistan.

His family said he had felt privileged to serve the Army as a Muslim British Pakistani.

“Obviously, as a British Pakistani who was Muslim first and foremost, and having a Pakistan background in terms of being brought up there, he felt that he had a privileged position which he must utilise,” said his brother Zeeshan, 27.

"In this day and age most of the problems are as a result of misunderstanding of each other’s culture and Jabron understood that.

“By committing himself to join the British Army and then by going to Afghanistan as a soldier, he knew that he was best placed… to perhaps bridging gaps and culture.”

Childhood ambition
L/Cpl Hashmi was born and grew up in Peshawar in Pakistan, and emigrated to Britain with his family at the age of 12.

He joined the army in June 2004, and served in the Intelligence Corps, attached to the Royal Signals.

After the family moved to the UK, "he kept the same ambition and eventually decided to join the British Army.

He was so happy when he got in."

In a joint statement with his sisters Zoubia, Absa and Tajalla, Zasheen Hashmi paid tribute to his younger brother’s caring, cheeky, confident and adventurous nature.

"He loved travelling and music. He was very caring towards his family and friends and a very caring person.

“He was proud of his role as a serving soldier and looked forward to his deployment to Afghanistan.” They added: “Even though it is a tragic loss, we are grateful to Allah for having Jabron for the last 24 years.”

‘Bit of a joker’
Mr Hashmi - himself a former soldier in the British Army - added: "My brother was a very happy young man, but very cheeky and mischievous. He was very daring, he had no fear of anything.

"He was a bit of a joker who could really make you laugh, but also make you cry if he wanted to. "He was very kind person, and would do anything for his friends.

“He also loved travelling, and that was one of the reasons he wanted to join the army, so he could see the world. He also loved reading and would read everything he could get his hands on.”
Mr Hashmi said his brother had been in Afghanistan for about six weeks and was enjoying his job there.

"He said he was having a good time, but the last couple of times I spoke to him, he sounded very tired because of the long hours and all the travelling they were doing.

“He did say he was enjoying every minute of it, though, and was very excited and passionate about the job he was doing.”

‘Fine young man’
L/Cpl Hashmi’s commanding officer, Lt Col Steve Vickery, described the young man as “enthusiastic, confident and immensely popular”.

"His enthusiasm for the role he had been given was simply outstanding.

"His enthusiasm for the role he had been given was simply outstanding.

"Once deployed in Helmand Province, his skills proved vital in support of the 3 Para Battlegroup, providing protection for his comrades in the highly demanding working conditions of Southern Afghanistan.

“A fine young man, his sad loss and that of Corporal Thorpe will be felt by us all.”
Prominent Muslim Labour peer Lord Ahmed of Rotherham said the 24-year-old’s death while serving his country contrasted sharply with a survey suggesting that 13% of British Muslims think the 7 July bombers were martyrs.

“We should be sympathising with the family of both of the soldiers, particularly the Muslim family because this actually proves the fact that Muslims also give their life for Britain.”

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Please cleanup the post and highlight what you want to discuss, I hope you remember that you don't just "share" news :)

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this bit of news proves that pakistanis love thier adopted homeland and are willing to fight and die for it

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Shouldn't it be "British born Pakistani", the term is confusing to me. There are many such examples I blv.... we can also say Pakistanis love to help from both sides :D

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Shame on his family, esp on the wretched mother who gave birth to a son who would take up arms against his own brothers.

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especially when those brothers are terrorists oops i mean warriors of islam

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I dispise terrorism, but would I go to Afghanistan to help further oppress those people on the whim of the British govt?

No.

May that boy rot with those he sided with. I'm sure taking up arms WILLINGLY against other Muslims is an act of Kufr.

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So, what you are saying is that let the Taliban come back and free the people of Afghanistan?

Once the Taliban take over Afghanistan, maybe they can host a UN conference on Freedom of Religion

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No, I'm not saying that. I am saying that its not the place of the UK/US to enforce there will on the people of any soverign nation, which Afghanistan is (supposed to be).

I am the least religious person you will find, check my posts-c. 2000 of them-but this war for oil/pipelines/headlines is worthy of criticism.

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thats all well and good.

but right now, the Afghan Army and its secruity forces are not strong enough to resist external threats like the taliban and foreign terroists seeking sancutaries there

i am no fan of Hamid Karzai, but if USA leaves, the only people in power in Afghanistan are the drug lords and war lords and they will turn Afghanistan into another Somalia

how many gallons of oil has been taken from Afghanistan and how many kilometers of oil pipelines have been build?

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Is Afghanistan able to hold "No oppression, no killing of innocent" now? I mean really?

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no but its going to take time

i estimated it will take 10 years after the oct 7 invasion of afghanistan that American troops will leave a safe and democratic afghanistan

but with the iraq war, i beleive that stay has been postponed for another 20 years

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and how many years Taliban got?

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well the taliban are a problem....

Pakistan could get bogged down in the frontier areas much like the Columbian Army fighting the FARC or Sri Lanka fighting LTTE....

This cannot be resolved militarily and has to be approached diplomatically, economically and socially.

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LBG you are getting carried away with emotions here. Look at the bombed out cities of Kabul, Jalalabad, and Kandhar and see how sovereign the country of Afghanistan is.

Bunch of uncouth tribals have turned their country into a heap of ash and half-burned bodies. Afghanistan suffered so much at the hands of Commies first, and then in the hands of Arab lackey tribals. And you talk about sovereignty of Afghanistan. What hath you smokin'?

We live in a small world. That One-Eyed Afghan wonderboy was more interested in marrying aka selling Afghan women to the Arabs. In the end, Ben-la-Deen and the Zaya-Hiri were able to rape and burn Afghanistan like no other.

Remember! If you can't put out the fire in your house, someone else has to come in to control the inferno. Otherwise the same fire will engulf the whole neighborhood.

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of course they are now, but they are the only ones who were able to provide peace to 95% of Afghanistan and had world helped them further they would have completely removed opium trade and all "private weaponry" which is again causing trouble throughout Afghanistan. But no, someone had to show arrogance and carpet bomb the country then claim "we are the best solution for you".

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1 - The arrogance was shown by the government that was harboring the terrorists that attacked the US.

2 - No one "carpet bombed the country" (even though it sounds dramatic to say so)

3 - There was no other option for a best solution. The government had to be taken down and God knows it couldn't be left up to her neighbors help fill the void.

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That is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard, even by your own standards. Taliban offered Osama to be handed over to third country for trials, US said no hand me over without me showing any proof/witnesses etc. I wonder who is arrogant here?

Yep, those planes flying several thousand feet above ground were throwing flowers, I bet the flowers killed those Afghans and destroyed houses, damn those flowers.

Again the same arrogane, “we are the best solution for you” :k: keep it up, you have high chances of getting a good position somewhere in NA.

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That ‘offer’ was as ridiculous as your posts have become. Sorry, captain, but when you are harboring terrorists whose goals, doctrines, recruits, fatwas and training camps are hell bent on attacking and destroying the greatest superpower in the history of the world, what did you expect? Flowers?

Call it arrogant if you will, but try to remember back a millenium ago when the Islamic empire was the superpower. Did they allow their enemies to make such diverting requests?

Please read up on the term “carpet bomb” you seem to be confused on its meaning.

You are right, Pakistan would have done a much better job of helping build a new government. They did such a good job when helping the Taliban bomb, murder and terrorize the population leading up to their terrorist reign. :k:

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Offer was ridiculous? ha ha. You expect a nation to bend over when you demand them to? I am sure you will bend over when your 7 footer neighbor ask you to, but those with some dignity will ask why? Taliban did offer a trial of Osama in an agreed third country, what was the response? Why was US seeking Osama, just to shoot in his head without trial? I don’t think so. US was seeking Osama to capture then push him thru trials, if the evidences against Osama were available then it could’ve been done in an agreed third country, lets say International Criminal court or some other agreed entity.

Clutching at straws now, eh? Don’t divert, just dicuss the situation where it belongs.

I am using the term which was used when Afghanistan was invaded, period.

Yep, someone who is still washed by media :k:. If “no bombs”, “no gunshootings” is terrorizing then I don’t know what peace is, may be you should ask FOX about the definition of “Peace”.