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Is Pakistan really our shared home. To know this read the following excerpt from a research paper on national identity in Pakistan.
"**Talbot says that the preference for Punjabis in terms of recruitment has prevented the national integration of Pakistan, which therefore is often called “Punjabistan”.**25 Basically, all of the ethnic conflicts can be seen as being against the Punjabi domination at the center. Punjab is indeed described to be the “only refugee for Pakistani nationalism”26.
**It is wrong to say that the Punjabi domination only began with the secession of Bangladesh. In fact, the 1951 census counted Punjabis to be 25 % of the total population, but they occupied 80 % of the army and 55 % of the administrative posts.27 **The conflicts between the center and the ethnicities deteriorated with the induction of the one-unit scheme in 1956. West Pakistan was united into one administrative province in order to “counterbalance East Bengal”, which composed about 55 % of Pakistan’s total population.28 This meant that West Pakistan technically only consisted of one province. The one-unit scheme also aimed to introduce absolute equality between the West and the East."
Read the full research paper at:
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And you better read this artical with a little thinking of your own. Use your “Damagh”… there are serious mistakes in it. Muhammad Ali Jinnah was talking about NATION BASED ON A COMMON TRAIT, and that is Islam…not on language, race, creed. Extreemly sloppy artical…](“http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~subin/islam.pdf”)
I dont want this to turn into an Anti Ahmadi post, but I can supply a lot of evidence of discrimination in Pakistan towards the group. There is a reason why Ahmadis are given assylum in America and Europe and it has nothing to do with some kind of zionist conspiracy…
NO ONE will ever change who they are, and NO one will ever change their relgion or call theselves something they dont want to.. Why dont Sunnis stop being Sunnis…
The reason Ahmadis arent stopped and searched and all the rest is because they are mostly in hiding.. In the city no one knows them. But if you look through any human rights websites, you talk to actual Ahmadis, you will see mass discrimination and denial of basic rights. I know because I know these people…
There are many cases of relgious discrimination and harasmnet, but Pakistanis are mostly to intolerant to see this save for a few like me.
Its easy to not see the obvious whne your standing outside, so please dont continue, your not helping anyone…
Point still remains, why should I have any sympathy for the plight of a people who themselves oppress the rights of others or support the abuse?
Pathans complain all the time of discrimination, and their supporters like Chela Chabila Baba love to voice their plight, but then he is willing to overlok the plight of others.. Thats not gonna help his case.
Now the
Lets forget the Ahmadis, why dont we consider the rights of women...
Why arent the Pathans more vocal about the abuse of women in Pakistan and particularly that of there own women.
I recall a while back there was a rally of the RAWA ladies, and the were protesting in Peshawar. These women were brutaly attacked.. One women was crying, her whole face swolen because someone had hit her in the face!
So you people cry and whine about the abuse of Pathan rights, and yet you have no consideration for anyone else.. Hypocrits!
Maybe we have another thread on Ahmadi topic. Enlighten us please.
But do not quote the rubbish of human right sites etc. as we know is another great weapon used against any country who west or its media does not like. I have mentioned somewhere else about another weapon of ‘democracy’ used by the media and west.
Anyway lets get on to the topic of this thread.
Maybe what you say is right but I think the topic is not about rights of women, Ahmadis etc.
(I think Pakistan is very tolerant as whole to allow people to demonstrate anything they want and media negativly promotes whatever happens.)
Coming back to the topic.
Lets try to find out what Punjab has and is willing to do to alleviate any anxiety among other nations? Is it willing to open millitary recruitment for every born Pakistani or will it continue to use ‘brotherhood’ or physical fitness as an excuse as described by one in another post?
Bengalis have their own army now whatever their physique is and its not the physical characterstic which makes people eligible for army recruitments. We know bengalis were denied army recruitments in past.
By our ‘Punjabi’ physical standard, chinese and other asian countries should not have an army at all!
Please make no mistake I have no intention to talk bad about our great country Pakistan.
Nor I have anyintention in talking bad about Punjabis as a whole. Its the administritive decisions which are Punjab domineering I think we should talk about.
Even in this century we are dealing with quota system and not the real merit system by using all sort of excuses.
We know native americans eventually became sort of lazy when they were given land and jobs etc. based on their ethnicity.
It seems, some one having a lot of hate in his heart started this issue as he forget the at the time being both President and Primeministers are from Karachi
Were you dropped on your head when you were born?
Your relatively new here, so just to let you know, Pakistan and Pakistani Islam are to intolerant to allow any sane conversation regarding the rights of Ahmedis and other minorities..
The people hollering about the abuse of Pathans seem quite hallow when you consider that they simply ignore the rights of others. Seems very relavent.
You cant support the rights of one group and then abuse the rights of others…
As for what Punjab can do.. Nothing.. This topic is useless, its been going around in circles and ususally ends with the Pathan guppies hurling insults at Punjabis… The Pathans only see one solution to their problem, war…If thats what they want then those Pakistan hating Pathans should get the fek out of Pakistan and join those butt hole refugees across the border, assuming they will accept them..
Mr. Super Paki, the Paki-Punjabi zealotism will tear you apart. No one wants war but it is Punjab that is pushing others to wall. Remember all the miliatry operations have been carried out in other provinces only, with 1971's as the most brutal. This shows who is choosing war. Nevertheless, Punjab hasn't won even a single war so far.
You should know that Pashtuns are living on their historical land. Things would ultimately return to their roots and originality with La-Whore becoming fused with Amritsar and Peshawar with Kandahar.
Actually, it was PAKISTAN that was at war, not Punjab... General Yaha Khan and Ayub werent Punjabi butt plug. And we fought exceptionally well against our larger enemy to the east...
Learn your history..
By the way, if it weren't for your incompetent and perverted tribesmen, we might have had Kashmir.. But no they had to resort to rape and rioting.. Stupid idiots. Exceptional warriors my foot!
Why didn’t they send brave punjabis to fight in Kashmir instead of incompetent tribesmen? However, these incompetent tribesmen got half of Kashmir for Pakis. Tell me a single victory of Paki Army against anyone - and we spend half of our GDP on them.
These incompetant tribesmen looted half of Kashmir, whoever decided to send those morons in should have been shot. The only reason we have half of Kashmir is because our army helped maintain it. The Army have fought bravely in all the wars, and while it was never an outright victory we were never defeated either, excpet in 1971, but only due to the overwhelming logistic and strategic handicapps we were faced with. Im no supporter of the Army, but I know the men who fought those battles and they were a brave bunch. And yes they were Punjabis...