Pakistan in Afghanistan: Friend or Foe?

Lets see which way Pak-US relationship goes as soul searching is taking place on both sides, and questions about the relationship are being asked.

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2096478_2096477_2096476,00.html

Pakistan in Afghanistan: Friend or Foe?

Afghanistan: Endgame in the Graveyard of Empires
Ten years after the U.S. Invasion, the country remains an economic basket case. What can — and should — the U.S. Do now?

**Ten years into the war on terrorism, Washington has at last embraced the real limits of U.S.-Pakistan coordination. That is, the U.S. understands that Pakistan will continue to support militants in India and Afghanistan as a means of accomplishing its foreign policy goals, and there’s little the U.S. can do about it.

This sober appraisal was not always accepted. Early in the war, Pakistan was praised for its indispensable assistance — likely because the cooperation centered on a common foe: al-Qaeda. But as Pakistan watched the U.S. grow closer to India — not just passing the U.S.-India civilian nuclear deal but also encouraging India’s presence in Afghanistan — it concluded that its interests and those of the U.S. were on a collision course.

In part because of that realization, Pakistan supported the Taliban’s newly invigorated insurgency in Afghanistan.** The Americans, however, resisted putting pressure on Pakistan for fear of compromising cooperation against al-Qaeda. Thus an ironic equilibrium was established: Pakistan received increasing financial “rewards” for its support of the global war on terrorism while it subsidized the very groups killing thousands of Americans and allies in Afghanistan.

With the American endgame in Afghanistan looming, U.S. officials can no longer ignore this duplicity. Pakistan’s influence over the Afghan Taliban and other allies like the Haqqani network is a key obstacle to Afghans’ being able to secure their country themselves. What is becoming increasingly clear is that a strategic relationship is not possible when strategic interests diverge so starkly. Observers on both sides are quietly asking whether the other is a problematic partner, an outright foe or both.

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They really are blaming Pakistan for their failures. They *ed * up. Kabul Bank was their mistake. Supporting the warlords over the government was their mistake. Sending in more weapons with ALPs outside of the ANP and ANA was their mistake. Allowing corrupt individuals and criminals to work closely with them and allocate them money was their mistake. They have wasted billions of dollars on paying off people and they still can't secure the same areas.

Afghanistan is another vietnam. This time however they can't accept they lost so they blame Pakistan.

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This has happened before, during the Vietnam war sensing defeat the Americans started blaming the insurgency on Cambodia...history is repeating itself

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America has lost the war in Afghanistan and soon it will meat the same fate as of russia the war in mexico will soon enter southern states of USA

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So now Pakistan is the reason because Mighty Americans have lost their war.... with all technology with all the Money and with NO brains and with NO Vision at all they were bound to loose..

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Russia lost the war in Afghanistan but we faced the result and US will also lose but we will have to face the bad results.

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We use common sense we can have pro Pakistan Afghanistan

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^^ What do you suggest?

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He suggests what the Pakistani military wants and that is not a good thing for us in the long run. We need to disengage from Afghanistan and let them run their own country as they see fit.

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Pakistan and afghanistan are one they united by islamic bond it is 3rd party outsiders the usual suspects who wish for this bond to be broken. Before this failed war began in 2001 the afghanistan nation was at ease and non conflict with pakistan the americans made it a warzone on pakistan doorstep wasting many muslim lives and money pakistan lost from the american plans.

It is time for pakistan to use its brain and kick out the american occupiers so it stops wasting pak soldiers, afghan & pak civillians lives and money for a kafir agenda which has no benefit for the muslims of pakistan and afghanistan.

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bangla desh+ islamic bond ? what happened?

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for a person who claims to speak about intelligent discussion that was a very unintelligent comment and shows a high level of immaturity.

But seeing as you discuss from a biased indian slant i am not surprised.

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you did not like it ? so it is immature and unintelligent.

was not bangladesh an islamic brotherhood ? islamic brotherhood is not going to help you in political matters sir, it is geopolitic where ethnicity, language, cultures dominate, pakistan is different from afghanistan in all matters, when matters of physical gain and loss come into question no body considers religion see the whole islamic world , almost half of them are fighting with one another or fighting for somebody else. forget about afghanistan firstly try to keep your house pakistan in order.

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by the way third parties are bound to be in every game of war between two countries , this is the reality ,third world countries cant refuse to coperate with super powers keeping in view the military and financial dependence on america ,you simlpy dont have capacity to kick america.

now you are saying america made it a war zone ? this is half truth , pakistan was the most willing partner at that time , zia tried to become leader and hero of islamic world during soviet occupation of afghanistan ultimately damaging pakistan severely?i have read few people claiming pakistan defeated soviet union , is it intelligent ? remember pakistan has totally different geophysical and political unit from afghanistan ,it is time to stop being too ambitious for developing countries , best way is to keep up to yourself and divert resources to wards regional cooperation forgetting war.keep religione up to only peaceful islamic education and religious preachings .

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You mean Taliban again. Good luck, last time around the virus was incubated in Pakistan and spread to Afghanistan, this time around the nurturing (baring few drone attacks) they got in Pakistan for 10 years made them a full blown contigen.
It will eat Pakistan, atleast NWFP.

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Good thing the CIA Trained the Haqqani Network and Hekmatyar.

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You mean like Maoist already have... You must be speaking from experience....

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It does not matter, who trained them, it's Pakistan's problem now. Regardless of the fact they rule Afghanistan or not, they are not good for Pakistan. Getting rid of them is the only right thing to do.

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Yeap...you got that right like Maoist of India. Unlike, the Pakistani society, the Indian society is accepting it as a problem, it also understand what drives people into their hands.

If you follow news closely, 250 policemen (forest dept), including 4 IPS officers were jailed for atrocities against a villagers who refused to cooperate with authories on a hunt for one of the deadliest bandits of India.