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*Originally posted by Asif_k: *
Look at the other side dude - If he wins - Wasim & Saeed's Careers are over and Inzi will have to work hard to get back into the team.
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Dude,
do you really think that without Wasim,Saeed,Youhanna and Inzimam they can beat Australian??
I wil be surprised if pakistan can keep it better than 2-0 .
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*Originally posted by andha_qanoon: *
are we looking at 3-0 Series. :)
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Worry about your own country's record outside home against NZL.
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*Originally posted by UMAIR316: *
Worry about your own country's record outside home against NZL.
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lets talk about pakistan vs australi right now.. I can appreicta ethat you dont agree with my prediction. but what is yours??
Well I can understand Wasim being booted out but why Saeed, he is willing to play and he looks in good nick.
That is horrible! 
** Youhana joins the exodus
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As if Pakistan’s plans had not been thrown into complete disarray already, it has been announced that Yousuf Youhana is likely to join the list of absentees from next month's Test series against Australia.
A bone scan has revealed that Youhana has a shoulder injury, a problem which first came to light last month when he was controversially sent home from a one-day tournament in Kenya. Youhana had apparently been excused net practice by the team doctor after mentioning the problem, although this cut no ice with his captain, Waqar Younis, and a heated row ensued.
Chishty Mujahid, the director of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) described the injury as “unfortunate”, and added: "[Youhana] may not be able to play the series against Australia, and he may return home before Pakistan's last match in the Champions Trophy later this week."
Youhana, the only Christian in the Pakistan squad, has been one of their most dependable batsmen in recent years. He has scored 2823 runs in 39 Test matches, including nine centuries, at an average of 47.84. His contribution to Pakistan’s Champions Trophy campaign, however, lasted all of one ball - he was run out at the non-striker’s end, an incident that has attracted the attention of the ICC’s Anti Corruption Unit.
But Youhana’s absence will leave Pakistan’s batting line-up dangerously short on class. Inzamam-ul-Haq requires surgery on his injured heel and will also be missing, while Saeed Anwar has opted out of the series in protest at Australia’s refusal to tour Pakistan.
Wasim Akram is the third high-profile absentee - apparently he wants to concentrate on the build-up to the World Cup - while the sacking of the coach, Mudassar Nazar, has done little for the stability of the squad. The first Test begins in Colombo on October 3, and the other two Tests will be played in Sharjah.
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*Originally posted by Asif_k: *
Look at the other side dude - If he wins - Wasim & Saeed's Careers are over and Inzi will have to work hard to get back into the team.
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You got that right, agree 100% and I am sure thats what Waqar is going to try. He will have most of the new players who will be willing to do anything Waqar says and they will try their best so that they can secure a place in the team. So I think the new team will put in 100% to try to win and if that happens bye bye to Waseem, Inzi, Rashid and others.
Its going to be a good contest, lets see :)**
while Saeed Anwar has opted out of the series in protest at Australia’s refusal to tour Pakistan
thatz interesting :-|
Rab Rakha
DerVaisH
Andhay, u also gave a 3-0 prediction when Pakistan went to Australia... May I remind you how that ended up?
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*Originally posted by andha_qanoon: *
do you really think that without Wasim,Saeed,Youhanna and Inzimam they can beat Australian??
I wil be surprised if pakistan can keep it better than 2-0 .
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Well, I dont think Pak can beat Australia - But If they did, It will be end of road for Wasim/Saeed/Rashid. It's proven that this Aussie team can be beaten as well - Remember their tour to India - They lost despite of the absence of two of our main bowlers Srinath and Kumble.
It will be tough .
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*Originally posted by AliBeta: *
Andhay, u also gave a 3-0 prediction when Pakistan went to Australia... May I remind you how that ended up?
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Did he ?? Waise I know there are other members also (from your country) who did the same prediction. If they can - Why cant AQ ??
I can’t believe I am writing this but from all these newspaper articles it seems that maybe Waqar is the source of all the problems and he should go 
Agreed!!! Instead of kicking out other guys ,he should be kicked out.. As far as performance is concerned he is just an average bowler these days.His good days are over.If you look at his recent performances then you will find that Zaheer Khan or Chaminda Vaas is better bowler than Waqar.
Waqar's captaincy decisions were abysmal in the last few matches. He kept himself on for far too long and wasted the new ball when it was clear he couldn't pitch the ball in the right spot. Why not give someone else the chance if you are struggling?
His man-management has been poor, thus genuine team players like Yousuf Youhanna became disenchanted. He has to be sacked before the team falls apart.
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*Originally posted by Mr Xtreme: *
Waqar's captaincy decisions were abysmal in the last few matches. He kept himself on for far too long and wasted the new ball when it was clear he couldn't pitch the ball in the right spot. Why not give someone else the chance if you are struggling?
His man-management has been poor, thus genuine team players like Yousuf Youhanna became disenchanted. He has to be sacked before the team falls apart.
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Thats what is precisely my point .Thank God you said it. IF we said it then its Hate-mongering.
well only Allah knows and team knows whats really wrong??
i dont believe in newspapers that much..... coz they look for gossip mostly... I dont think they are totally wrong , there must be something but they make rai kaa pahaar ..
Ringside View: Pakistani soap opera
**Ringside View: Pakistani soap opera
Agha Akbar - 19 September 2002 **
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Scene: **
That said, while the cricket-following public has been taken aback by the string of reverses, especially because these came after the enthralling series win over Australia in Australia as recently as June, which lifted not just the morale of the team but swelled the sense of national pride, but nowhere has the disappointment reached the level of craze which could be phrased a ‘public outcry’, as one local newspaper would have us believe. No effigies have been burnt (yet!) and the players’ houses have not been stoned (yet!), the PCB headquarters and other regional offices across the country remain unharmed too.
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Act 2: Suspicions?**
The word on the street in Lahore was that there must be more to it than a mere run of collective bad form, and between knowing winks and sly innuendo, one could make out that people blame it on the ambitions of a certain southpaw and his enormous ability to influence mates and put a spanner in the works.
But then, these accusations remain unchanged since the mid 1990s whenever the team has lost. So one has to take such aspersions with a pinch of salt.
But the question is, why panic? And does it suit the team on the eve of an important series in which, as things stand, Pakistan is to take part on neutral grounds without a ‘home advantage’, wounded in soul and handicapped in body. Whether these sackings, and a hastily-arranged seminar (where former great and not-so-great cricketers invariably offered the same advice which was already crying to be heard in some of the more well thought out match reports if someone had cared to read) prove to be a solution is indeed a point of conjecture.
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Act 3: Action**
If you look back at his term in office, the PCB Chairman has alternately used sacking the primadonnas and pampering them as a motivational tool and to keep the potential troublemakers on the straight and narrow. One has to concede, that this strategy has had a pretty decent measure of success in the past. Especially last year when he sacked Moin Khan, installed Waqar Younis as captain and brought back Rashid Latif as keeper-batsman. So, put in a spot, he again perhaps thought he has done enough of the pampering and it was prudent to apply the sacking mode this time around. The question remains whether a goat was sacrificed while the tigers roam free?
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The Actors:**
Would it work this time? One is not into crystal-gazing, but logical deduction says that it would not, or at least not wholly. And anything less than that would not do, considering the assignments leading up to World Cup 2003.
For one, the punishments do not seem even-handed. The coach, Mudassar Nazar, rendered ineffective long before he ‘relinquished’ his assignment, has been sacked but not the manager. And the manager’s responsibility in ensuring cohesion and team spirit was far more than the coach’s, and that he has failed in it requires no proof. It is evident from the handling of the Yousuf Youhana affair and sending him back home, which was ‘overblown’ (The Chairman’s own words).
Secondly, the team doctor who refused to treat Youhana despite the latter’s entreaties spread over days has gone absolutely scot-free, at least so far. It is entirely another thing that most sides do not have a team doctor on tours these days as hosts provide medical assistance in abundance. So, in essence what we have is a joyrider with preferences about who would he attend to and when.
Thirdly, there is this perception that Youhana has opted out by feigning injury. Even if this perception is wrong (and in that case it needs quelling on the part of the PCB as the media reports say he has a hairline fracture), it is still bad enough because it conveys that the top pros, despite this being their vocation, are choosing to stay out for the moment.
Fourthly, the recall of Moin and the ‘resting’ of Rashid, despite a flawless performance as keeper and a pretty decent one as a batsman. Rashid has denied he had requested for rest, and Younis has come out in his support. But more than sidelining Rashid - which, should it transpire, would be a travesty of justice in itself - it is the recall of Moin which raises one’s heckles. For one, Moin has played next to no competitive cricket this season. Even the PCB chief believed that he needed to get in his ‘groove’ by featuring in the ‘A’ team. Wicket-keeping is not an issue, for Rashid is streets ahead of him there, and in batting, Moin made 10-odd against the visiting Lankan second eleven at Faisalabad. In this form, his induction would surely be further good news for the Aussies!
While one is on the subject, Moin was sacked last year not only because his performance behind the stumps (which was never beyond adequate at best, the overbearing noise not notwithstanding) and in front of it, there wasn’t just a dip, it had gone to pieces. Since some people in the Board seem to be victims of selective amnesia, one may care to remind them that instead of looking after the Board’s interest as captain, among other things, Moin incited player power, and deliberately led a number of his charges into a dubious deal that put the PCB in thick soup with its official sponsor. Wriggling out of the fiasco itself was an ugly, expensive and nightmarish exercise that has only just been resolved.
That was not all; Moin was even accused of leaking information (which the PCB then deemed as disinformation) to certain journalists. Is it a mere coincidence that these same journalists have consistently turned on the heat on the PCB for Moin’s recall, even if it meant induction in the squad?
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Ending or a beginning?**
Lastly, while the PCB at one hand is trying to discipline others through sackings, what kind of message would the recall of a former captain send to the team? Especially when the same person had been ousted on flouting discipline beyond repair only just over a year ago.
Will the opera ever end and now we are again confronted with ‘bad press’ associated with match-fixing allegations, vague clarifications, names being used of the ACU and ICC and what not!
http://www-usa.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2002/SEP/066155_CI_19SEP2002.html
Innnnnnnnntresting !!!
yepp
interestiung article...
true about Moin though ;)
He has had his problems with lt. Tauqir.
And iot would be totally unfair if Rahid is dropped.
Former players called in to solve Pakistan problems
Richard Sydenham - Bloomberg - 20 September 2002
Former Pakistan cricketers, called to a meeting by the country’s cricket board, urged the sport’s rulers to fire the national team manager, recall a former captain and scrap plans to name a new coach.
Pakistan Cricket Board chairman General Tauqir Zia invited players such as Zaheer Abbas, Abdul Qadir, Fazal Mahmood and Wasim Bari, also the chairman of selectors, to a meeting in Lahore on Wednesday after poor results rocked the team’s preparations for the World Cup in February.
Pakistan, who fired Mudassar Nazar as coach Tuesday, has lost six of their past 10 one-day matches since beating world champions Australia in a three-match series in June.
The meeting comes as the team seeks to build for the future. Wasim Akram, Inzamam-ul Haq, Yousuf Youhana and Saeed Anwar - with 279 Test match appearances between them - withdrew from next month’s Test series against Australia.
“We were happy to help and give our ideas,” said former leg-spinner Qadir, who is set to coach the team’s spin bowlers. “We all spoke honestly.”
The talks took place less than a week after Pakistan lost to Sri Lanka in the first stage of the ICC Champions Trophy. Pakistan now cannot progress further in the event.
Abdul suggested scrapping the role of manager Yawar Saeed and proposed radical selection changes for the Australia series. :k: 
**“We should play Moin Khan as a batsman in the middle order,” Abdul said of the wicket-keeper fired as captain last year. “Moin always performs for his country in a crisis.” ** (Rashid 
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**He would also like to see Imran Nazir, 20, and Taufeeq Umer, 21, open the batting, bring back Ijaz Ajmed for his experience and include Azhar Mahmood. General Zia was unavailable to comment. ** :mad:
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**Abdul opposed the likely appointment of South Africa-based Richard Pybus as coach on the grounds that an international team only needs batting and bowling advisers, who could perform the manager’s role. Pybus, an Englishman, meets Zia today. ** :k:
“A great former Pakistan batsman like Javed Miandad or Mushtaq Mohammed should be hired along with a great former bowler like Imran Khan or Fazal Mahmood,” said Qadir, who claimed 236 wickets in 67 Tests.
Former captain Zaheer Abbas, who as chairman of junior selection oversees the A team and representative youth teams, advocated more overseas tours for younger players. Tours to England or South Africa would better prepare them for top-level cricket, he said.
Zaheer, nicknamed Zed, also wanted confirmation that Waqar Younis would continue to captain the side.
**“The board doesn’t want any change before the World Cup,” said Zaheer. “We should make an announcement early so that the team know what is happening in advance.” ** :k:
Play for Pakistan, do not play with Pakistan
Salahuddin Sallu - 20 September 2002
Why has Pakistan Cricket team touched rock bottom, when it had peaked to defeat Australia in Australia, and was being ranked among first few? In Morocco, Kenya and Colombo the same side crumbled and crashed. After the remarkable triumph its tame showing was a shock. For this sudden slump I will recount the following factors.
The most important point to ponder is the ‘Dressing Room atmosphere’ which deteriorated. For any team to succeed the climate in the ‘Dressing Room’ is the most important. My conclusion is based on the row between Yousuf Youhana and the captain following which the key batsman was summarily dispatched. When he had shoulder injury what was the Doctor doing. If he was convinced and sure about the disability to practice he should have advised the skipper. His verdict according to convention is final. Perhaps he was on a joyride. And where was the psychologist who was soaring sky high in Australia.
If such an experienced lot of players need lessons to attain mental toughness theyshould quit cricket. I think the Physio, the Psychologist and the Analyst are virtually tourists. These triple tasks might as well be assigned to a local Specialist.
Now coming to the captain’s role I am sorry to say that Waqar bungled and fumbled. **Shahid Afridi who played half a dozen matches had to suffer a shift in batting order which shook his confidence. Can the captain justify downgrading a batsman to number 8 and 9? Similarly Misbahul Haq who scored 50, 39 and 50 in three innings, a creditable record, in the next match he was sent below Rashid Latif. ** :k: :k:
**The biggest spoiler was Shoaib Malik, who replaced such great players as Saeed Anwar and Saqlain Mushtaq. He played the three early matches and then on top of that he bowled only one over as an off spinner and conceded 15 runs. Is there any justification for his selection except patronage. ** :k:
Now be prepared for further disaster as the report that another ‘foreign mercenary’ Richard Pybus is being rehired as coach has come to light. He ran away and left the team in the lurch because of the border situation last time. Apart from his doubtful commitment to Pakistan cricket, he is essentially a trainer. Do we really need him? With no experience at first class level as player, does he have the skill and ability to coach one of the best and most talented Test teams around.
Richard Pybus 
In his recently published interview he alleged that Pakistan lost the 1999 World Cup because of the management’s interference. How can we trust a person who conveniently shifts the blame when it comes to a crunch.
Was he not the trainer when Pakistan suffered humiliation at the hands of Bangladesh and India? What guarantee is there that if, tomorrow, God forbid, Pakistan loses again he would blame the management and move away. Socializing with players is one thing and training another. Again he is laying down the condition that Yawar Saeed must continue as manager. Perhaps the latter is using him as a cover and a case in point for his continuation. :k: :k:
If the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) goes for Pybus once again it will be a sure prescription for further calamity.
My advice will be "Play for Pakistan for God’s sake do not play with Pakistan