Islam and Mohammad pbuh brought the message of Truthfulness (Sadiq), Trustworthiness (Amin), Tolerance and love (Rahim and Karim).
What we have now is a bunch of beardo weirdos hell bent on terrorism and tribalism.
Beard is much lower on the priority list of pillars of Islam. Making beard the biggest show-off piece and forgetting about truth, trust, and tolerance is at best hypocritical.
Salaams.
I agree 100% with what you say... However, its about the fundamental rights of the citizens....freedom to choose.... and a wider dislike of islam and all that it stands for. Antibol, you are mashaAllah quite sensible...I have a question, is having a bad judiciary good? Why does the government not do anything about it? Why is injustice tolerated. Although I don't have a beard, but just kicking out people for having beard is like the French telling women not to wear hijab. Even the US is more tolerant.
Not sure how we can mix "freedom to chose" with the dress code of an organization.
Even when you have freedom, you don't wear Shalwar Kameez during Hajj. There is a stipulation of uniform and you must obey while performing the ceremonies.
Sameway, Army and airforce or whatever the corporation you have is going to expect some kind of dress code and facial-appearance.
You are free to leave if you don't like the dress code. But do not harp on "freedom to chose" just for a beard or Shalwar Kameez.
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This is a simple matter of the dress code of an organization in this case Air Force.
You wear Shalwar Kameez or Arabic Toap to the runway, and you will be kicked out of AF. Even when you have freedom, you don't wear Shalwar Kameez during Hajj. There is a stipulation of uniform and you must obey while performing the ceremonies.
Sameway, Army and airforce or whatever the corporation you have is going to expect some kind of dress code and facial-appearance.
You are free to leave if you don't like the dress code. But do not harp on "freedom to chose" just for a beard or Shalwar Kameez.
Sameway, Army and airforce or whatever the corporation you have is going to expect some kind of dress code and facial-appearance.
If it was just a matter of 'dress code', they would have not been allowed to grow the beard in the first place, and it certainly wouldn't have been a news item.
They have only been told now they cannot keep a beard due to Mush's anti-Islamic drive, at the behest of Bush.
They have only been told now they cannot keep a beard due to Mush's anti-Islamic drive, at the behest of Bush.
Oh Lukhnawai khan Sahib! First the news itself is of dubious nature, and secondly organizations can change policies anytime they want.
On another note, Shalwar Kameez culture has just ruined the morale in our offices in Pakistan. What if a large organization changes its policy tomorrow and restricts wearing Shalwar Kameez to Jumma only. Will you be bad-mouthing Prez. Musharraf and Prez. Bush?
May be we ought to expect garbage coming out of bad-mouths anyway.
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^ Yeah it is, and those that are so adamant about it can do so by not joining the airforce, for there is no room for political/religious bias in the armed forces of any type.
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If the article is true, it does clearly mention that the bearded pilot returned from an advanced fighter training course in the USA when asked to shave.
One would assume that such a course would involve flying a US military plane in the USA … and presumably the US Air Force would have had no problem with the beard.
On the other hand, the source of the article is still suspect. The Herald’s website for March 06 makes no reference to such an article, which one would assume would be big news in Pakistan given the amount of sensitivity about a) religion and b) the military.
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^ I've just read the article ..it is very much in the latest issue of the herald..anyway the crackdown on beards is old news..most of the senior army officers who helped mush get into power have been ousted because of their beards..Bushs friendship is more important than ones friends I gather..
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I remember that when Shaukat Aziz first became Prime Minister, some Pakistani papers were claiming that his wife was a Jewish lady called “Gloria Cohen Aziz”, when in fact she is a Pakistani called Rukhsana. :hehe:
Even if there is such an article it does not make it true. As I stated earlier there are scores of federal government ministers with beards, yet no one has touched them. If you see the military parades in Pakistan you will notice many bearded officers in the line up, which is proof enough of the lies that certain sections of the media come up with. Had such stories been true, as you said there would be more of a fuss in Pakistan, but it is just trashy lies, just like Shaukat Aziz’s “Jewish wife”
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I go to actual military parades in Pakistan, and have seen many a bearded officer in the line up. Any trashy lies can be printed as we have a relatively free press thanks to Musharraf, but that does not make them fact. I have seen the reality up front, unlike many here.
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I read in the press that the 9/11 planes where remote controlled and flown into the WTC towers by the FBI under the command of Mossad. It must be true then it was in the paper.
Must have done wonders for the uptake of circulation and money in pocket. Believe what you want, but printing 'hear say' doesnt make it true.
