I’ve heard of many guys having “secret nikahs” and their wives/families only find out after the guy has had about 2/3 kids in this secret nikah. its totally immoral and unislamic
timepass is sick :yukh: and the fact that u seem to think its ok is also very disturbing
having a girl friend and a wife are two separate things. girl friend obligations start and stop at me. she doesnt have to deal with or put up with family and all the crap that comes with it..likewise neither do i. it keeps the relationship free of all tension. whereas you guys already know the drama that comes when families get involved. its like a bunch of lions in a den all fighting over one bakree.
but, its also wrong to lie about expectations of a relationship. promises of marriage are childish to say the least. but, if you are upfront about it and make clear the above stated distinction then i see no wrong. and if u can pull this off after marriage then you got it made.
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My point about a timepass is that if two people agree to it then thats their perogative...if a girl wants something short term and the guy wants something short term then whats the problem...
The problem arises when two people want different things...one wants a relationship and the other wants something short term...
People should be clear about what it is that they seek...
that’s the problem with desi families maybe…as they get all overexcited about marriage, they put toooooooooo much pressure on the poor young couples, and this leads to the whole “hidden fiance”/“hidden nikkah” thingie!
in my gori family, no tensions! anyone knows about gf/bf of my cousins/siblings, they are considered a part of the family well before marriage, and no one annoys them regarding marriage/children, it’s tension free! and couples tend to last long and love is all around
so for gori/gora like me and my family, this whole discctinction btw spouse/bf is NOT existant, the ONLY difference is “contract”, there is no sign papers btw gf/bf but they are in long term relationships (otherwise it’s called one night stand, or mistress/whore, lol)
Lol there is a girl im linking at the moment...Turkish Cypriot girl...she had a story for me...and its one iv heard three times in the last 6 months...
She went out with a Paki for three years...he rang her one day and said they needed to break up becuase his fiance had arrived in the country lol...the gutless fool has since decided to get married and his parents have no idea that this girlfriend of his even existed...
Thats nearly as bad as this friend of mine...she was Sikh and was dating a Paki for two years...the boys brother came round and was like Amir got married yesterday so sorry...the best bit was that he followed by mentioning to my friend that he was single and available afterwhich he was told to f*** off...
Now she was Sikh so she should have known better...but the Turkish girl was Muslim...I know a Bengali girl who was dumped when the guys parents suggested he get married...again he didnt have the guts to mention to mummy and daddy that he had a bengali girlfriend...
I swear i only hear these complaints about Paki boys...im not suggesting that everyone or even very many people fall into this category...but i know no other people that have this level of cowardice...
Im sure mummy and daddy wont be that offended if you brought a Muslim girl home so why be such a p***y about things...its almost like your ashamed of your gal...
Paki boys in my area tend to have a reputation where they put their parents wishes first...and to some of you that may be great but to me its shameful especially when you have wasted 3 years of a girls life...
Most Paki guys put on this front like they are so bad, but when it comes to their parents they dont say a word. And most of these paki guys are from the uk.....
so are teh girls just stupid to not see thru the guy after a few months let alone a few years?
there are other threads about girls goign for bad dudes for whatever reason, well...the do that and then are left holding the bag in the end..
and its not just guys who do this, girls striong alng guys too and then oops..boo hoo. no can do, or you have to do this and this and that to be acceptable to the family type of stuff.
well most of these "bad guy's" are straight up dumb arsses, one of my friends was going out with a so called "bad guy" they where going out for 5 years, he even spent time in prison and she stood by him. she kept on talking about Marriage, finally after 5 years they got engaged, but in the end he bottled out. with a dumb excuse of his family. He couldnt put up with her expenses....
she should of been wiser too, and relized tht he was no good for her, but thts what happens when ur blinded by lov...
so are **teh **girls just stupid to not see thru the guy after a few months let alone a few years?
there are other threads about girls goign for bad dudes for whatever reason, well...the do that and then are left holding the bag in the end..
and its not just guys who do this, girls striong **alng** guys too and then oops..boo hoo. no can do, or you have to do this and this and that to be acceptable to the family type of stuff.
CE just because someone tells you they love you does not mean you close off the section fo brain called logic. so the immaturity is to not be more aware, logical and sensible about the situation the chica had tossed herself into.
People walk away from bad relationships all the times, whether they have been in it for a few weeks or a few years
adra you are right, so then the respoinsibility shifts on to them and not just to the 'champion' they are with.
I have walked away from things when I was single. all it takes is a rational way to look at things, and no matter what your reasons are..personal, family, cultural, whatever..you know it better than others and others dont have to agree with your decision criteria but its your life.
People walk away all the time X2 but most of the time - after a lot of damage has been done and they have no where else to go. Meaning, they have hit rock bottom and no longer have anything to lose. Then reality dawns on them, light bulb goes off and they get out. A lot of people wait for this moment before they leave.
Some are smarter and get out before and those are the lucky ones.