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Previously our batting had also sucked, but we had the bowlers to make 250-300 a highly competitive target. Now 500 is not safe when Akhtar is not playing.
One of Inzi and Moyo, hopefully both, will have to get a big ton to keep Pak alive in this.
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One of Inzi and Moyo, hopefully both, will have to get a big ton to keep Pak alive in this.
Yes you are right as pakistan had great attacking bowlers with great abilities and anything was possible with them.
Hope both Inzi and Yoyo get a hundred and one of them at least passes 150+.
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This does make one nostaligic for the heydays of Akram.
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Talk about being pessimistic. Now who's loosing respect here ? :D
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I dont know why you guys are after Farhat. He is much better than Butt. Im begining to lose count of how many times i’ve seen the guy get out in the same fasion again and again and again and again. Im getting sick of it…and im sure the managment is getting sick of it. He doesnt seem to learn. Farhat played a lot more confidently, and scored more than Butt…and looked more comfortable as well.
I admitt Butt seemed like the perfect solution to our opening problem a while ago…but he has proved many of us wrong by getting out in the same fasion again and again. Farhat is also a brilliant fielder and everytime i’ve seen him drop a catch…its in the slip position…which is not his natural position to field at. He is a million times better fielder in the cover/point region…and if u want proof go and see the highlights of the series against Sri Lanka and see if he dropped any catches in those postions…infact he held onto a couple brilliant catches. Its our dopey captain who doesnt know which position suits which player.
And Faisal Iqbal…the guy has been proving himself in every chance he’s been getting over the last year or so…yet he has found himself out of the team due to the packed middle order. Its unfair to send me him at #3 when he’s been doing so well at #4 and #5. This is where I love Younis Khan. The guy can bat anywhere for the sake of the team. And then there is Yousuf and Inzi. With all due respect to them, why the hell don’t they step up to take responsibility. One of them could have come at #3, leaving Faisal at #4 and Inzi/Yousuf at #5. But no, put the young lad at #3 to face Harmison with the new ball. It is known by everyone that Faisal is by far the best player of Spin bowling in the team. The way he played against Shane Warne still baffles me. Faisal would have loved to play against a 3rd class spinner like Monty.
Having said everything, lets hope Yousuf and Inzi make ammends for their mistakes by their batting. Im not saying all this because of a couple bad days for Pakistan as some people would say…but these are just common mistakes which Inzi & co. have been doing but have mostly gone unnoticed because they keep winning, but sooner or later, the mistakes start to take their toll. And one such mistake is Sami. I saw his first spell, in which he should have got 2 wickets instead of 1. But I still want to see him out of the team ASAP. The guy bowls good delivery after bowling 10 rubbish ones, which takes all the pressue off the batsmen. He can never learn. Gul, on the other hand has a lot of talent, but its been really disapointing to see him drifting down the leg side so many times. Every since his back injury, he has changed his action, and he seems to have lost the control of his line length, which used to be great before the unfortune injury which kept of out of cricket for 2 years and forced him to change his action.
Lets hope for the best. Win or lose, Fight is all we ask for! Pakistan Zindabad 
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They all suck on away games! What to brag about?
Bake the pudding and serve it, taste it, then talk ! won’t you agree ?
I am watching them with the WC frame of mind and the current series as the paint brush and canvas. However, these are early scares typical of any visiting side, so let’s wait and see the turn of events shall we. :biggthumb
ps; this reply was meant for this thread but was posted in another thread due to an error. Ref Mr. Gul,
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i'd rather have sami and gul 4 sum reason.
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few bad decisions; umpiring, mind boggling captaincy; Inzi usual style!!!, and worst bowling and fielding and to top that pathetic batting :o
what on earth they have yeild from the assistants or so called bowling coach, fielding coach (crash course from Jonty)??? my opinion is based on what I have seen (GS highlights, cricinfo details and ofcourse guppies comments). forget the ICC ranking, after having month long training session and next to 3 practice matches before the battle, Pakistan was expected to play good cricket, yes you might not play best cricket with your key players injured and out but all you do is play like a lower class club team!
I hope they can recover and get back on track
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^ Not to worry Rainy, it is not there in Gul’s thread anymore 
I am surprised people are getting all tensed up with the situation as if they never expected that.
How many times in the past we have seen Pakistan team facing this situatuon, stuggling and then coming out of it, managing a miraculous win or a draw.
I guess too much of such fighting spirit is also not good since fans start to expect too much from the team in every game:hoonh:
Anyway pakistan were hit badly by injuries to key bowlers and on top of that our fielders were too generous. Umpiring shouldn’t be an excuse since it can go against any team.
One of our major weaknessses is batting second after a mammoth total of 500+ by opposition and once again this weakness was exposed, however
still we have plenty of batting left. Failure of our openers was not something unexpected however Faisal’s dismissal was disappointing but he got a good delivery and was caught brilliantly. He is a promising player and a future star. Inshallah he will deliver soon.
With Inzi, Akmal, Razzak and Afridi to come, we can expect avoiding follow-on. The bonus will be a partnership between Sami and Yousuf. Sami has potential to bat and if these two can take the score around 100-120, then we can hope that the rest can take the score beyond 329. Once we do that there is a strong chance of saving this match and I am afraid thats the maximum we can do in this match.
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Honestly speaking no one expected either Butt/Farhat to score a hundred (that in itself is sad). But the way they keep getting out in exactly the same way means they are not improving. That's a worrying sign for both the players AND coach.
After all the criticsm on batting order in the India series, I was hoping maybe just maybe Inzi might grace us his with his presence. But no, he sends in a middle order batsman with only a few tests to his name, as one down against the likes of Harmison and Hoggard with the new ball in Lords. Spineless as always.
Now Moyo and Inzi will be consolidating with 4 down when they could have been at the crease when it was 2 down. The follow on is the only thing that stands between us and defeat.
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** Ladies and gentlemen, your brilliant captain at work: **
http://content-pak.cricinfo.com/engvpak/content/current/story/253517.html
Inzi’s zombies beat surrender
Kamran Abbasi at Lord’s
July 14, 2006
Inzamam-ul-Haq: a time to wake up, a time to inspire © Getty Images
There is a theory that inhabitants of hot climates are quick to emotion. On the evidence of the last two days that theory deserves to be junked. The sun has blazed down at Lord’s but the crowd–with fewer Pakistan fans than expected or hoped for–has watched politely and the players have mostly kept any flicker of emotion a secret.
Until Steve Harmison’s double-wicket burst–and desire to break the 90pmh barrier–this had been a listless Test match, played with a sterility that makes you wistful for the acrimony that these two teams usually serve up. Pakistan are the main culprits here, although England’s three-and-a-half runs per over was a dull affair replete with nudges, nurdles, and sensible cricket shots. Geraint Jones’s six over cover point appeared to be a stroke from a parallel universe. This modus ope***** suits England better than Pakistan and Inzamam-ul Haq better wake up to it.
Pakistan are at their best when they are passionate, on the hunt or on the boil. Passion and verve inspires them to moments of genius. And Lord’s is an arena that emboldens visiting teams, desperate to leave their mark on cricket’s most famous stage. Pakistan’s breakthrough victory was at Lord’s in 1982 when Imran Khan’s captaincy suddenly demanded to be taken seriously. Subsequent Pakistan teams have fought every breath to create their own history. Yet over the last two days Inzi’s troops have wandered around Lord’s like zombies, going through the motions instead of seizing the moments.
And it is times like this when Inzi’s captaincy becomes most worrying. He manages tension well, usually through his calming demeanour but sometimes courtesy of a spasm of passion that shows he really does care. Backs-to-the-wall stuff he has mastered ever since he blinked at the gloom of Auckland and the mountain of runs that he was destined to climb in 1992 World Cup semi-final. When the future is uncertain, the path of the game undecided, he is stupefied. A shake of the hands, a nod of the head, a quiet word in a distant ear, and that’s your lot. Inzi at the helm is a study in minimalism. It could lull a cornered tiger to catatonia.
Attitude aside, Pakistan will be kicking themselves–if they can muster the enthusiasm that is. After witnessing the hasty surrender of England’s tail they know that this Lord’s Friday could have been one of building on a winning position. Instead Pakistan’s low-key warriors face a hammering that might be hard to recover from given their bowling poverty. Their low-key state is hard to understand. This is the first Test. This is Lord’s. This is a battle for second place in the world. Pakistan’s approach, though, has been one of sheepishness at finding themselves in second place in the Test rankings, gatecrashers at the top table. This attitude is not that of a team pumped up and ready to knock Australia off top spot. This attitude fills me with dread and drains me of hope. Nobody, though, will condemn them if they go down fighting–and a fight requires passion.
By way of release, Inzi can return to backs-to-the-wall mode tomorrow, do or die, a situation far less complex than the infinite possibilities of the early stages of a Test. What needs to be done has become simple. Pakistan will hope that this is exactly what is needed to rouse Inzi and his team. For let’s be clear: Pakistan might have just surrendered the series in its first two days. This is a moment for leadership not passivity. It is also Inzi’s last Test at Lord’s. Wake up man.
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Yeah he is brilliant...lol
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does any one have the link where i can find the highlghts for day 2 of this match pleasee put it on and give directions how to use it ??????? plz plz plz
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**http://rapidshare.de/files/25847138/1st_Test_Pak_Inngs_On_Day_2.wmv **
Here go bro, Enjoy!
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thanks a lot bro by teh way where you from i am in Dallas and you ?
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Chicago
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hey my younger brother is going to chicago sunday night for week of training for his job can i ask yo something that place dewaan where is it at or is that a street name
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Yah it is a street. Its spelled Devon not Dewaan tho.
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In another news, Mohd Asif is being sent back to Pakistan and Rao Iftakhar is being brought to England, RAO IFTIKHAR!!!!
I was not around to say this on this board, but I was vehemently opposed to our bowlers being sent to play county cricket after playing continuous cricket uptil the Sri Lankan tour. We had good bowlers, and they would have gotten accustomed to Englash conditions by playing side matches, THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE FOR. What's next, next time we go to India or Australia abroad, we should send our bowlers to play their domestic cricket?
Now after doing long spells in county cricket, Asif and Rana Naveed are injured and out for months. Gee, I am surprised!
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Besides, i thought the whole point of 'Central Contracts' was to keep our players from playing too much county cricket for financial reasons and preventing burnout.