Re: Outcome of negative politics: Dawood Ibrahim and Bal Thackeray
Please provide me his address. Pakistan is not the state where Muslims and Sikhs are not allowed to enter Hindu's houses, but Hindus are free to destroy their properties and kill them when ever Sarkar wants. It is Pakistan where I can knock every door and be welcomed.
If Don has to hide from a person like me, then why is Sarkar and khatri so afraid of him? He is a gangster and gangsters are not afraid of any one. They don't hide but can be imprisoned or killed.
Re: Outcome of negative politics: Dawood Ibrahim and Bal Thackeray
yarr, i quit moderatorship long time ago. Ironically, I was always blamed to support the indian counterparts little too much which annoyed some hardcore elements…
Re: Outcome of negative politics: Dawood Ibrahim and Bal Thackeray
did you meet Javed bhai … or he dont want to meet you .. or yo are afraid … or did javed bhai told you about the innocence of your icon and massiah of muslims in INDIA and now a days of pakistan.
I told you to focus and not to be fooled by others … I warned you 7 years is a long period … but again some one fooled you and told you that massiah is in indian jail … and you belived him.
i understand the mental agony you are going through … but god is great. Dont worry try to start as many topics as you want, try to make as many posts you want … I guess that will help you to release your agony, pain, instability to a greater extent.
Re: Outcome of negative politics: Dawood Ibrahim and Bal Thackeray
Phonixdesi, bhai, sorry for calling you moderator, just an old habit, Sir!
Off course I am sure that you have understood the head and tails of umer.ashraf posts, …as he is escaping from answering to any the enquiries, I am sure that you being his admirer can give some explanations.
His posts are roaming around two first points…that (1) Bal thhakre killed and snatched Muslim property, (2) And the Don Dawood has helped Muslims.
Shiv Sena was in power and I want to see real statistics if Muslim property was really snatched away and Muslims were killed during Bal Thhakres party’ ruling.
How Dawood helped Muslims? How he managed to help Muslims? Or he took total care that Muslims are not killed in the bomb blasts?
And for some strange reason his third new point is Khatri.
Are khatris now a days ruling over India?
And his anguishes over plight of Muslims in India……. Shall we adopt a system like yours where minorities are safe provided they do not ask for their rights?
I beg you pardon if I disturb your peace….what to do if the winner party umer.ashraf is parrot-ing one and the same thing?
Re: Outcome of negative politics: Dawood Ibrahim and Bal Thackeray
I hold a Pakistan passport and no one can threaten me in Pakistan, otherwise Musharaf is there to deal with that person. Miandad has no idea where Don is residing.
Don is not in Pakistan, but he helped Muslims of the state in like Sarkar helped Hindus.
I was going to be fooled by some people who insisted that Don is residing in Pakistan, but I never found him. This clearly indicates that he is not in Pakistan. If he is please provide me a valid address. Then I found an expert and he told me Don is actually imprisoned in Jaipur. Since I failed to find him at listed addressed, so I believe that expert.
For your kind information I am having a good stable life. I am a computer graduate and can get enough. I am in little pain as people are making false claim about the presence of Don in Pakistan. Where is he residing?????? Just tell me his VALID address. Not the address of some other person. You seem to me like a person who just spread information without verification.
Re: Outcome of negative politics: Dawood Ibrahim and Bal Thackeray
Don helped Muslims as Sarkar helped Hindus. Both have gone to cause serious damage to India's unity and image at some stage, that's why they both were linked to have relations with ISI at some stage, in India.
Most of the times, Sarkar only destroys Muslim properties and plan massive killings, to gain sympathies of pony-tailed Hindus, otherwise he is a nice gangster. Similarly Don only reacts when some thing bad has happened to Muslims; otherwise he is not that bad. My opinion throughout this thread, they both must be punished or they both must exist and they must be free to cause damage to the society. It is not good to imprison one as a gangster and declare the other as savior of the society.
This thread is a dedication to Don and Sarkar and khatris were only mentioned partly.
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it feel great to see a pakistani so passionate to see india getting back its image and national unity , integrity etc etc.
Before this only once i came across passion, when my girl frined passionatly hated me … aftar that i developed some kind of hate for passion … but aftar this discoser i found new meaning of passion … thanks umer bhai …
And also i learned here if you take name of your god (jesus, ram, allah) and throw a bomb in a crowded place, even thou ppl of your faith are killed, it is still meant for there good … and i used to think this is bad .. poor me, … thanks again umer bhai …
Re: Outcome of negative politics: Dawood Ibrahim and Bal Thackeray
It is never good to kill some one, even small insects. Every life and every individual has some role in surroundings, society and this World. This applies to the people under discussion. People like Don and Sarkar plan killings and destructions and are intelligent enough to execute their plans. They pose themselves as they are working for the good of some people or some community, to gain sympathies. After years of work, they have managed to get enough support from many people. Sarkar is still worshipped by many pony tailed Hindus as in their opinion he is fighting for them and Don is believed to have helped Muslims by many. They both have just done what was beneficial to them.
It is a good decision to imprison Don in Jaipur, but it is bad to punish only one of the two. Sarkar is still out there and he will definitely plan something, and this time Don will not be there to reply.
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does that includes you … or you are with ppl who belive that he has done something for muslims … but now again dont tell me that you have been told by some expert or some one , if your answer is yes … i dont have words …
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If Sarkar has done some thing for Hindus, then Dawood must have done something too. I never believed either Don or Sarkar has done something for Hindus or Muslims. But they are intelligent enough to portrait that and since there are enough people and experts out there to support them, so it means they are intellectuals. I love intellectuals and intelligent people. That's y this thread is a dedication to Don and Sarkar. I don't know why khatris have imprisoned Don and Sarkar is still free. Seems to me that Sarkar has more power than Don these days as he can use khatris and RAW to imprison Don. If power is not balanced then it can hurt.
Re: Outcome of negative politics: Dawood Ibrahim and Bal Thackeray
Don is imprisoned in Jaipur, while Sarkar is still out there, operating his gang. Thi clearly indicates that Sarkar is doing something good while Don is just a criminal.
Re: Outcome of negative politics: Dawood Ibrahim and Bal Thackeray
Pheonixdesi bhai,
Where are you? Please help us to understand what this guy, umer.asraf wants to say. I really want to laugh at his posts, but I am not sure, may be he is in fact intelligent and serious. You must know better as you have qualified him for victory.
Please appear and pull us out of dilemma!
Re: Outcome of negative politics: Dawood Ibrahim and Bal Thackeray
I think it was very nice Umer.bhai to give so much time for a thing that will enhance the integrity of india. I am following this thread since it was posted. Only a person like umer bhai can make so many conclusions .. it is beyond capacity for small persons like me …
I am here presenting important point umer bhai has mentioned for the benefit of who so ever is interested … ,
Post No : ** 1**
Post No : ** 3** I think he know him personally
Post No : ** 9** I appreciate
Post No : ** 16** Truth is relative …
Post No : ** 25** so everything is unintentional here … i dont mind … i think i dont have one …
Post No : **27 ** He is having strong memory …
Post No : ** 31** Still more to come …
Post No : ** 35**
Post No : **36 **
Post No : ** 38** who the hell are you …
Post No : ** 39** Benefita are of two types , 1. Benefit and 2. long lasting benefit …
Post No : ** 41** here we go
Post No : ** 49** I didnt know that …
Post No : **51 ** please refer post no 36
Post No : ** 53** I told you don is not a gangster but a massiha in the eyes of UMER BHAI …
Post No : ** 57 **This statement below made me his fan … such a intellegent man …
Post No : ** 59** remember this … two many twists …
Post No : **61 ** I dont get it …
Post No : ** 65** important …
Post No : ** 66 ** I told you … don is umer bhais icon …
Re: Outcome of negative politics: Dawood Ibrahim and Bal Thackeray
Don and Sarkar are just two great persons (two great minds). Don did for Muslims what Sarkar did for Hindus, and they both did nothing in general. They both must co-exist or they both must be punished. It is not fair to imprison one in Jaipur and declare other as a person fighting for rights. There was false information spread by khatris that Don is residing in Pakistan at the published addresses, but those addresses are occupied by some one else.
Re: Outcome of negative politics: Dawood Ibrahim and Bal Thackeray
Ummar.. try to find a bombay muslim who believes Don had helped Muslims in some way. As I told you. Don was pretty secular till he needed to go to Pakistan.