I did get to the point obviously you didn't like my answer. I am giving you my point of view not trying to second guess what you want to hear...isn't discussion suppose to be expressing ones point of view rather then saying what somebody wants to hear.
You have to be more rational minded and less angry before you can have a civil discussion. Your personal opinion about me is of no value to me....so don't even bother expressing them.
Mallik,
You come running when you smell blood..... with your stupid and off track remarks.
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designer… atleast ny is a true hypocrite. he doesnt beleive in any religion and says so. rani on the other hand… claims to be a good sardar, says its okay not to cut your hair in the name of religion, says its okay for sardars to cover their bodies in the name of religion or humanity, says its okay for sardars to murder women like indira gandhi, says its okay for sardars to have more power and autonomy… but at the same time blames Islam for women oppression in muslims, claims that if a muslim woman walks around with a covered body she is ignorant and oppressed, blames muslims and Islam for the hindu oppression in Kashmir, and thinks everyone should be a kiss ass of hindus like herself and her clan. the same hindu which has 300 million shoodars and millions of devdasies.
ny prove urself otherwise why dont u stage a naked prade in ny… for the liberty of the nudes like urself?
rani, in light of what these sardars are doing to ur fellow sardarnies wouldnt u consider these sardars to be women opressors? also if a man is supposed to be liberal humanist… like urself… why is he/she being forbade NOT to shave or cut their hair? Isnt that a sign of oppression too? ppl should be allowed to cut their hair if they want to.
Similarly… chanmahi pointed out that sardars should cover their hair. Isnt that a sign of oppression i mean Nature has given you hair… so you should show them off? Im sure some would see that as a sign of ignorance, oppression and stupidity. So as a liberal humanist wouldnt u agree that sikhism is very intoloerant and stupid for making sikhs do all this covering their hair and not shaving and not wearing jeans inside a temple and other nonsense.
Please explain why sikhism is so ignorant when it comes to hair? whats so special about them that they are made to grow them till they are grotesque? liberal humanists should be allowed to do what they like… they should be allowed to walk nude on the graves of those burried inside those guwardawaras. when do u plan on doing that rani?
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I think I did explain the hair part, read my previous post....I hate to repeat myself, at least not in the same thread. BTW, you did not refresh my memory about calling myself a good Sikh.
PS1. Your ignorance is hilarious...we don't bury our dead.
PS2. NYA was trying to explain a concept obviously it went over your head and your are stuck in walking around naked. Now I understand where the blind following is coming from. Good luck, next time.
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as a liberal humanist i should be allowed to pee anywhere i like? can i do that in a guwardawara where u preach? on the graves of the deads u worship?
if not… why not? as a liberal humanist is allowed to do what they want when they want then whats so bad about peeing where u want? when do u plan on doing that rani?
so you are not a good sikh… are you a good hindu? or you arent good in anything. its not good sikhs like u who allowed hindus to piss all over golden temple… well the way things are with u anyone and everyone can and will… i guess.
Mundyaa, you are an idiot.. I told you that I walk naked all the time. How many times do I have to prove it to you? Should I send you my photo? Now can you tell us if you would like your 6 year old daughter to marry off to a 65 year old man? Lets see how much of a non-hypocrite you are.
yes ny, post it on gupshup with ur under age daugther. or infront of ur mother. and tell them about ur new cult where they have to worship lingum. make them circle around it a couple of times. thanks,
well haroon, see these liberal humanists as they claim to be… find it ok to insult the teachings of all religions. so if a religion prescribes a dress code they find it repulsive abusive ignorant and discriminatory. they follow the same rules be it cos they have to cos its the law of the land or cos they also follow the same faith but just dont want to admit to it.
who makes rules for these liberal humanists? what morals do they follow or try to follow if any? what gives them a free token to insult any religion or ppl who try to follow a set of rules.
ny, no offence but if you're gonna walk like that, then you'd better stay away from my neighbourhood, otherwise you maY end up walking without a lingum.
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Salafi, Trust me I have no plans for going to Raiwind in the near future. Do they eat it all or just swallow and out? Give me the details and I might consider it.
Mundyaa.. now we are talking. See how easy it is to get into your holy cavity and start telling everyone what dress code your religion prescribes. It is the same for “all” religions. You may think that “yours” prescription is for “all” humankind, but “others” don’t think that. They take it as an offense when told that they are not good enough.
Have you ever been to Salafi’s neighborhood? Tell me if what he is saying is true.
who makes rules for these liberal humanists? what morals do they follow or try to follow if any? what gives them a free token to insult any religion or ppl who try to follow a set of rules<<
As long as your rules don't affect teach hate towards others and put down others. I don't give a damn. It is the discrimination and hatred towards others (women and non-muslims)taught in guise of religion that I hate.
Excellent point Xtreme, there are Movicha Tribes in West Africa where it is common for a 65 year old man to have child brides. Children are basically given away as gifts to elders who sexually use them. Every time this comes up (the underage girls marriages), every one thinks that a reference is being made to Arabs, and that kinda assumption is so narrow minded. These point-outs work for those (i.e., Mundyaa) who live in guilt. My point was that if one is not willing to adopt codes from different cultures/religions, why should they even expect that others should adopt their codes? Or theirs are the superior? I think that was the whole point of this stupid discussion.
Pathwari Yara, there are a hundred kinds of Aboriginal tribes and they basically are Jungle oriented tribal cultures. Amazon has a fair share of Aboriginal tribes. But I prefer Blondes.
ny, even these folks living in jungles might have their rules which they follow. so Muslims have their set of rules, sikhs have their, christians have theirs… so if u and rani stage a nude parade in NY you will be arrested and put in jail. Again there are different rules for different societies.
question is you and rani claim urself to be liberal humanists who do not feel the need to dress up if the please to. well that is a code for the jungles as you pointed out and not tolerated in a civilized societies. so wouldnt you agree such kunjars should move to jungles with their families? where they can follow their rules.
again what rules if any do these liberal humanists follow? or do they pick and chose from different societies to suit their moods. or is it a term used by the likes of rani and yourself to escape from reality? so you can make fun of others and their beleifs like rani has done thousands of times when it comes to Muslim dress code but in return no one can point fingers at you. is liberal humanist just another term for a “thali ka bengan” or a “lota”?