I been here to America for about last 6 months and i personally feel that women are less respected here. The more and more i know the community thinking here more i dislike it. If boys in Pakistan think about touching some one, then here they just want to DO IT and they actually do it.
Boys in Pakistan are greedy, but here they have blood all over their faces. Personally i think every one knows what desi community is doing here ... but every one just works on the hash hash policey. Mostly people here will only look at the clothes that you are wearing, but won't try to discover the animal/man underneath it.
Girls trust me on that, men in Pakistan are far much better then here, both character and intellect wise. It only depends upon the people you meet and your search criteria.
I been here to America for about last 6 months and i personally feel that women are less respected here.<<<<<
Most probably you also think that children don't love their parents enough and vice versa. And younger siblings do not respect their elders. It is a common culture shock, look back at it 6 years from now and then 16 years and you might not think the same.
armughal, guys GRABBING girls in Pakistan is actually more common than you would think. And it didn't happen once to me. Its actually happened a number of times - at least 2-3 times every time I visit Pakistan. Usually they aim for the behind. Sometimes for the leg. In my case, once even for the crotch area.
Its more common than you'd like to think, because these things aren't PROPERLY documented. If every girl reported when she was grabbed, I think it would be quite overwhelming the response you would get. But since the police doesn't do anything about it, and in turn actually pins the blame on the female, and also because women are too ashamed to admit it to surveys, etc, you have a major crime that is being committed with very little being done to address the problem.
So, sir, just because YOU wouldn't grab some girl, does not mean that everyone in your gender would not either.
ARe you kidding me ??? Get the helll outta here, grabbing/touching is NOT an isolated case !! I was grabbed and groped when i was 11, 12 yrs old, i know another girl wh was grabbed and groped when she was 12 or so… IT HAPPENS, why don’t u accept that guys in pak r jaahils.. instead ppl like you just tell us to slap on hijab/chador and no one will bother you, that is SUCH BS! Yu can wear chador and they will STILL stare and ogle at you..
You never cease to amaze me with your Wisdom!!! , as long as we are throwing random numbers, how does one in ten sound, hell I even had to pick a fight once in Bombay when riding my bike with my Mother.
ARMughal Bhai, I am not criticizing Islam, I am Criticizing the Muslim of Today, who preaches Islam, but has strayed so far away that now even his own wrong doings to him appear to be completely proper and Islamic.
ok, pcg and sara jee, consider that all men r of the same nature as u metnion, then what shud girls do in this case????
1) go out and continue getting touched and when they complain about it, they themselves take the blame (as pcg metnions)????
2) go out but fully covered so when men see they know that she wont like this and if they still dare, u dont take the blame "hey i did my part, i covered myslef good, but the guy is still a jerk" so atleast u wont be blamed and the guy can be dealt with....
3) stay at home (as most molvis advise) or dont go out alone (go with some mehram) and dont even have to deal with such issues
2 and 3 r what u call "typical mullah behavior" but atleast they r more assuring than going out with "i'll face them whatsoever cuz i am a modern woman" attitude which will ofcourse only result in an increase in such instances of unwanted attention....
Okay i go out here alone and i'm unbothered and nobody bugs me and i'm never harrassed and i AM covered, but i wud NOT dress like this if i were in pak.. in pak its chador, loose clothign whatever, but is that my fault ?? was it my fault that i looked older than i did and some creep copped a feel ??? You're being really unrealistic, so many women here have already told you, even hijabis/niqabis are harrassed... y cant u get that ?? Now if a woman were dressing pretty skanky in pak, then that's really bad and i agree with you, but we're not talkin about them, were talkin about fully covered women who r still harrassed and groped !
Crescent I have made my point several times, and the only ignorant ones are you and Armughal for not accepting the reality in Pak: women cover up but they are STILL HARRASSED and groped and stared at. Why is it so hard for you to accept that?
Just because a few get molested by horny wrongly guided men (mostly in the balochi district) that doesn’t provide a justification for ignoring the commands of Allah swt just so you can walk naked on the streets cuz thats what society finds pleasing!
My goodness, how many times do i have to say this? NOONE IS WALKING AROUND NAKED !!! Women are suposed to cover up , there's no debate about that. I am talking about the guys who don't care if a woman covers up, they still ogle and stare and make comments. But instead of condemning those guys, everyone jumps on the girl, because she's not covered enough, coz she's dressed half naked.. Nobody's ignoring the commandments of Allah, but rather it's just not fair that all the blame is placed on the girl, even if she's properly dressed (according to the Quran and Sunnah, NOT society).
And no it's not a few, it's a widespread problem. Nobody wants to fix those pervs. Instead of treating the disease, we're just putting a bandaid on it, or like chris rock says, Robitussin.
Um i condemn those guys, All people who know its wrong are condeming them. For example, there was this incident at Tariq Road in Karachi when i went, where this girl was just being whistled at and she thought the guy was stalking her. So All of us (me my cousins, guys walking on the street) jumped the guy!!
And if you are referring to authority not imposing their law on these *******s, then what can you really expect from authority who themself are in fitnah and Bribe taking.
It goes both ways.. women dress appropriately they won't get stared at or ogled or harrassed, that's what i believe. In a perfect world, u can walk around naked and not get harrassed but it's not a perfect world. neither is fully covering urslef and having guarantee that ur safe frm anything but again it aint perfect.. u can doa ll that u can, but if guys aren't meetign them half way well then..
, as long as we are throwing random numbers, how does one in ten sound, hell I even had to pick a fight once in Bombay when riding my bike with my Mother.
Is our internet arm-chair maulvi now racist as well as sexist?
this lil gudya needs to learn alot.