Obtuse logic at gupshup

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Nopes 5ABI, Im working on it. I hope I do one day. But I have not developed that intolerance by being exploited. I have developed it from what I have seen of them myself in the practical life. Does your hatred also root from your own personal experience of other people?

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Well, there is a reason why gupshup is what it is (or atleast used to be), not some gol gappay website run by people like you.

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LOL geek, you know about gol gappay site. Why hide beind this nick?

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Guys, lets get this discussion back to the issue of what it is supposed to be. The simple point is this....
Folks like PD, Madhanee, Roman and others are here to have fun. Now, it may seem to some of you that they are insulting Islam and our religion, but rest assured, it is always something else that triggers that behavior. While I do not agree with their choice of words at times, I do however, agree with the philosphy of challenging the beliefs. For me it has served the purpose of understanding "other" point of view and help me research/learn and made my faith even stronger. Those three stooges I mentioned above are good people by all accounts and one of them actually does more for the muslim kids than anyone else I know on this board. I am not saying that there are not other people on this board who may be doing a lot more for the muslim youth, I just dont know about them. For Lajwab to say that PD hates Islam and muslims, is ludicrous and wrong. He does not even know the person to make such a claim.

I will close my ramblings by saying that you should take the remarks from these jokers and use it as a tool to learn/research so you can make your Imaan stronger.

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if a person hates american ideology( by that i assume u mean the whole capitalistic mindset?) then even in that case it is flawed to hate ALL americans (made up of different races/colors/religions/ethnicities), it is flawed to hate even the whiteys because believe it or not, some of them really are really good people. now it is not required of them to leave american if they hate the system, because i think that in order to change any system you need to be part of it while criticizing it.
similarly, if mamaof3 has a problem with religion forum, your solution to that is that she should just give up posting there? she has every right to voice her opinion of what she has a problem with. the religion forum is not a living breathing husband that she must leave if she hates him, its a forum where she has a right to voice her opinion and telling her to leave it is moving towards the point where you will only have people who will agree with each other on religion forum, thus ending all further learning and productive discussion.

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This analogy of making your faith stronger by accepting insulting remarks towards your belief is a stange one Kaleem…

It’s like Majnu allowing Laila to be dragged across the streets to strengthen his devotion to her…

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Lajwab, thank you for missing the point again. Insults aside… you have to read between the lines… .Their remarks are not always insulting…they usually get insulting when somone else starts calling them names or post something insulting regarding them.

Let me ask you soemthing? Why do you think there is such a strong emphasis on “Haqooq-il-Ibad” in Islam and I dont see any of our religious people talk about it? How come we dont see Ahadith and examples from Prophet’s :saw: life highlighted to show what that concept is? Why is that? Why always try to convince people by fear of hell?

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oye where is pinstripe danda? i miss cute man!

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Shweety he is no cute man.. He is bald, fat and short. Dont be fooled by his "charming" manners

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:snooty: jee i met him and i think he is cute + sweet. :blush:

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You are not going to do that in the Religion forum. Mam, there is a strong correlation between different forums and posters that inhabit them. Posters in cafe, C & A. Comp, Trav, Shor etc are far more friendly and I have yet to find a xenophobe there. Religion forum is teeming with them.

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ewwwwwwwwww

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no surprises from those who dont like how we do it in the Religion Forum....
we know u will never like it, cuz Allah has already told us so....
hence i personally do not wish to make efforts in vain to try to please u, and that too at the cost of bearing insults to my religion and Allah....

Quran 2:120
*And the Jews will not be pleased with thee, nor will the Christians, till thou follow their creed. Say: Lo! the guidance of Allah (Himself) is Guidance. And if thou shouldst follow their desires after the knowledge which hath come unto thee, then wouldst thou have from Allah no protecting guardian nor helper. *

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^^

Mughal...Those who quote the Quran are fundamentalists and extremists...You will lose your modship...Leave the Quran and Islam...

Just say something to make the people agree with you...

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Lajwab what answer does Quran tell us to give to those who because of our adherence to our religion, will bit their nails in rage at us????

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What are their desires?

What is the knowledge that is sent upon muslims?

Desires: Rejecting Islam, maybe?

Knowledge: Accepting all the prophets and sacred books as the message of Allah on older people and accepting Quran as the last message of Allah, maybe?

Who is here rejecting that in this thread? The jews, christains or muslims?

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Mughal,

Making others bite their nails is Haram in mod-Islam…It is better to give up the commands of Allah :swt: and his Messenger :saw: than have anyone dislike you…

Folks, I apologise on behalf of Mughal to everyone whose sensitivities may have been disturbed or hurt by his quoting of the Quran or Ahadith…

Please don’t bite your nails…

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no dear the ‘quotes from the Quran’ are not fundamentalistics but YOUR view of them is.

How do you define the ‘desires’ and the ‘knowledge’ as is meant in these verses?

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Is it possible for you to get more ridiculous than this or is this your limit? Who’s ‘biting the nails’ as per you? I would like to know. Have you been told that too or not?

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me thinks lajawab is being sarcastic.....