Re: Non muslims dont go to heaven?
^^ I will be happy in hell rather than joining taliban and alqueda people in heaven.(edited my earlier post)
I don't know who is going to be there, not even certain about myself. Just know that Inshallah! if I make it, I will not regret it. Nor will any of the people there. You are still invited though. The invitation is open to all.
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No one is stopping you from joining in.
the party for monoply on god and heaven.
....do you mean that?
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the party for monoply on god and heaven.
....do you mean that?
I mean no one stopping you from testifying that there is no god other than Allah SWT and Muhammad is his messenger SAW. If you do that than you are atleast cosmetically a muslim. Its upto you how you follow your life as a muslim then. Its what you believe that matters the most to be eligible for heaven or hell. Then your selection really depends on the deeds you do. There is no monopoly, it will all get sorted out, every person for themself. If you never heard about the oneness of Allah SWT then you will be given a chance. However if you heard about it and denied it then well I can only hope the best for you in the hereafter. In this world, your deeds will bring you what they are aimed for. You have an entire life time to believe in one simple phrase that there is no god except Allah SWT and Muhammad SAW was his messenger.
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I mean no one stopping you from testifying that there is no god other than Allah SWT and Muhammad is his messenger SAW. If you do that than you are atleast cosmetically a muslim. Its upto you how you follow your life as a muslim then. Its what you believe that matters the most to be eligible for heaven or hell. Then your selection really depends on the deeds you do. There is no monopoly, it will all get sorted out, every person for themself. If you never heard about the oneness of Allah SWT then you will be given a chance. However if you heard about it and denied it then well I can only hope the best for you in the hereafter. In this world, your deeds will bring you what they are aimed for. You have an entire life time to believe in one simple phrase that there is no god except Allah SWT and Muhammad SAW was his messenger.
sidenote:
That despite that there are many unitarians out there who are not muslim? I think our definition of the word muslim may not be entirely as is described by our elders...
And there is nothing stopping you from actually translating the COMMON NOUN allah (ho theos monos - The One True Divinity)... ALL GOOD NAMES ARE HIS. He is also al-Rahmaan The Almighty Source and al-Raheem The Perpetual Sustainer ...
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Have any of you been approached by a Christian missionary, tell me honestly do you not think they are idiots. This is the same feelings I get when I hear extreme Islamists preaching their version of Islam.
The problem is componded when the Anglican, runs down the Momens, Johova's witness etc. I am sure the Sunni's would do the same to the Shia's, Ismaili's, Ahmedia's etc. And visa versa
Just follow your heart, truth & honesty, and believe in the goodness of God. I assure you all will go to heaven.
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Just follow your heart, truth & honesty, and believe in the goodness of God. I assure you all will go to heaven.
Spot on.
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Just follow your heart, truth & honesty, and believe in the goodness of God. I assure you all will go to heaven.
Aap is cheez ki kasai guarentee the sak tey hain?
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Allah taala ne farishta bheja ho ga :)
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Everytime I come to the religion forum I discover something new which makes me think twice about everything Islam says.... recently I read something about non-muslims never going to heaven or whatnot.....is that really true? And where does it say that in the Quran? Why wouldnt they ever have the chance? I dont believe that Allah would create billions of non muslims only to send them to Hell regardless of their goodness...
answer lies in Sura ASAR
go and read that , you will get your answer
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Have any of you been approached by a Christian missionary, tell me honestly do you not think they are idiots. This is the same feelings I get when I hear extreme Islamists preaching their version of Islam.
The problem is componded when the Anglican, runs down the Momens, Johova's witness etc. I am sure the Sunni's would do the same to the Shia's, Ismaili's, Ahmedia's etc. And visa versa
Just follow your heart, truth & honesty, and believe in the goodness of God. I assure you all will go to heaven.
this is not enough for entering in jannah
requirement to get entry ticket for jannah :) is
according to sura asar
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^^ what is dawa ?? sabar means patience right
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any muslim wishing someone else not to go to heaven will themselves regret. watch out
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Aap is cheez ki kasai guarentee the sak tey hain?
Kia aap guarantee day sakti hein?
As far as I am concerned lead a simple life, don't hurt others, help the society, take care of others as yourself and the world will change into heaven, and then people will stop running after so-called heaven.
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Kia aap guarantee day sakti hein?
As far as I am concerned lead a simple life, don't hurt others, help the society, take care of others as yourself and the world will change into heaven, and then people will stop running after so-called heaven.
ok, so if i do the above, its gonna b all good?
no need to fast, pray, zakat (charity ought to be enough right?), no need to cover up islamically (there is no concept of besharmi anymore is there? we should all have "good hearts", and men will stop druelling over minimally dressed women...), do hajj, no need to follow what the quran says, no need to follow the example of the Prophet SAW? and while I'm at it, I might as well go to a peer (pay him his due of course) and ask him to fulfill my needs? oh, and those fancy coloured cocktails do look enticing.....
dude, you almost sound like u r challenging what Allah SWT has prescribed in the quran... thats a scary thought!
I'm not giving any guarentee, Allah SWT gives us hope and Muhammad SAW shows us how to properly "hope"... He SWT gives us a choice of right from wrong, now do i really need to provide evidence from the Quran here ?
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I thought you are in the favor of not judging anyone?
Yes for what they believe, and how they understand.
No when they start killing in the name of their belief...
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Salam Yazdi,
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From your post I have nothing to disagree....
I just need answer from you if you disagree with me on the point that these verses regarding shirk have to be taken for guidance and not for judging any one, as the right to judge only belongs to Allah. If you agree with me on this point we have no other point of difference.
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Agreed brother hundred percent Allaah has the right to judge. I wanna add my point ihavent passed any judgement i have just stated according to the Holy Quran.
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Regarding your concept of checking these tafseers to check the sequence of nazool only, and you agree to the principles of sunnah, and you study quran under these principles of sunnah I think we belong to exactly the same school of thought.
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Thats the only way for us to understand the Quran unless we are good enough to understand Arabic, i am trying that out but to understand the Quran the history is very much necessary again they are exceptions, this would take long time to answer.
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We are actually both saying the same things with just one point of difference that I am requesting you not to start judging anyone as this is the biggest mistake our clergy does....
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I am not judging brother I am quoting the Quran i think you have misunderstood me i cant judge accordign to this verse of the Quran
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**YUSUFALI:* Not for thee, (but for Allah), is the decision: Whether He turn in mercy to them, or punish them; for they are indeed wrong-doers.
Now understand the speciality of this verse after the war of Uhud, Prophet cursed Khalded bin Waleed who were amongst teh mushrikoon, then Allaah is revealed this verse you have no concern this is a wonderful verse because they are lots of points ot learn
1) Prophet has no ilme ghaib
2) Prophet has no power to judge its Allaah alone
3) Prophet is only a warner to guide the mankind.
Let me also quote one of fav verses too.
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**SHAKIR:* Nay! they say: He has forged it. Say: If I have forged it, you do not control anything for me from Allah; He knows best what you utter concerning it; He is enough as a witness between me and you, and He is the Forgiving, the Merciful.
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**SHAKIR:* Say: I am not the first of the messengers, and I do not know what will be done with me or with you: I do not follow anything but that which is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner.
Please read the above verses even the Prophet doesnt know whether he will go to hell or heaven what i infer
1) I believe this very verse also proof Quran is from Allaah guess why because the one who was given the Quran and was asked to guide the mankind is unsure of his (Prophet Mohammed) berth in heaven or hell.
Assuming if Prophet Mohammed had forged it then he would have never passed such statement. Also proves if Prophet himself could not Judge who am I.
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For abrogation concept I am not talking about abrogation of quran with hadith, I am talking about mullah concept of abrogating one verse of quran with another. That's how they create the likes of Bin Laden
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If bin laden exists he is probably got his own version of Islam.
Regards,
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^^^^^
The way I look at these verses is to take guidence from them, by not associating anybody with Allah. When you quote these verses to share your understanding and knowledge it's a commenable thing. I am not saying you are judging people in the light of these verses. But you can see some of the forum readers are quoting these verses to pass judgement on people if some specific people are hell bound. I am glad you have seen the point I wanted to make and thanks for quoting:
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SHAKIR: Say: I am not the first of the messengers, and I do not know what will be done with me or with you: I do not follow anything but that which is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner.
I think it is totally clear from this verse that how Allah (sws) is going to judge on the judgement day is totally unknown to us.....
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^^ what is dawa ?? sabar means patience right
dawa -> dawat -> tableegh -> preaching etc