Nikkah Now and Marriage later ?

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cricketplayer this is exactly what is being discussed the whole Nikkah and then after a certain amount of time the ruksati and walima and the stuff that happens while then.

In relation to the Ahadith that you ask of me I am in the same situation but I did not read this in any book written by so called mullahs i.e. Pakistani mullah who I believe are not even in the very least able to call themselves scholars of Islam.

Anyways we will all find out what’s true in the next world so best of luck to everyone but I know that I would rather be safe than sorry.

And I would like it to be known that no one actually grasped what I was saying now that just shows me that you all aren’t intelligent enough for such a discussion. Picking a certain point rather than understanding the concept of what I was saying. This is best shown with all the quotations taken out of context from the passages I have written. Oh well.

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Anyways we will all find out what’s true in the next world so best of luck to everyone but I know that I would rather be safe than sorry.
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why in such a hurry ?
cant we wait a few days till we find the ahadith?

You didn't say if you agreed with what I posted...

We are all here to share knowledge and learn a thing or two, nobody is perfect.
Your saying we're not intelligent enough to have this discussion just shows how arrogant you are. If you want to share some knowledge, do so with respect for others. The reason you think you didn't get your point across is maybe you didn't explain well. Try explaining more in detail, maybe then we can clear some misunderstandings..

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Well unfortunatley I do not have the time and I dont want you to think im backing out but unlike some people I am very busy i come here for a couple of hours every night amongst other indian gossip sites and hollywood fashion sites for relaxing. This article hit home so I responded.

I have just completed my LLB and have to get funding for my next course (£12,500 - i was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth) as well as find a training contract so im sure you can appreciate that I can either do one thing or the other and frankly for someone who even after evidence will dispute it I do not want to waste my time.

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cricker player that message was not for you but to make it clear you had not grasped what I was trying to say.

Well whatever floats your boat I guess.. You don't want to explain then fine. Have fun nd gd luck

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I think I tried to explain it three times or so I think thats enough read what iv written again and then take your time to understand it theres no rush.

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pakilass, this is what I understand from you:

Nikkah is a commitment.
Rukhsati/Walima is formal way of saying your together(?).

Is that what you are saying or am I not understanding?

Now this is what Islam says:

Once nikkah is done, man and woman are now husband and wife.

Scholars say that "rukhsati" is like a promise from both parties that until then there are still certain limits. This is all fine and allowed as long as both parties agree. Good?

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Okay guys i was willing to know if Islam Recognizes Nikah (without rukhsati) .... No i am not intrested in finding out whether one can have sex after nikah and before Rukhasti....

I guess i have got my answer, Yes it is religiously permissible to do nikah and not do rukhsati rite away.


Now i want the social perspective of doing rukhsati after few months of Nikah.
1. Is it a good idea ? what are pro and cons of doing nikah and giving rukhsati an year.
2. Did any of you guppies go through this situation ?
3.Did u at times feel like u shld have done Rukhsati rite away ?
4. Do you have to financially support ur wife after nikah and before rukhsati ?
5. Would both gals and guys parents find it okay if the couple hung out together ?
6. Did you guys find it hard to give enough to time to ur wife/ husband for reasons like education/ carrier !
and other questions if u have any in mind

Thanks alot

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funny how everyone is actually going to waste time arguing over this. marriage in islam is nikkah or nothing. AFTER NIKKAH YOU ARE MARRIED. you may do whatever you please, it's as simple as that :) ruksati is not mandatory, it's just cultural tradition. religion and culture are not the same thing.

Wrong. Once nikah is done, the couple are husband and wife. The walima is recommended but anything that is lawful for the couple after ruksati is also lawful after nikah.

Nikah gives you permission to make passionate love. Know one can look down on you for wanting to have sex.

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pakilass I understand what u r trying to say.

people should just have a nikkah, valima and then rukhsati all in one go,
cause it would stop all this confusion, imagine whats gonna happen in the future, nikkah then babies and then valima its all a little to much I think!!!

go to sleep.

A really good point Pakilass

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Once the nikah is done, wedding HAS happend. So there is no sin if they have sex after nikah only. Now the social consequences of their relationship becoming public before ruksati is a whole other issue. Still, it does not change the fact that the couple are halal for each other after nikah. They can do anything that is lawful for any married couple, period.

Pakilass, what you have said is wrong. like others have pointed out the nikkah **is **the wedding, after that the couple can do whatever they like as husband and wife. I didn’t realise this before but it’s actually a sunnah (obviously not obligatory) to consumate the marriage before the walima which totally contradicts what you have said. You have got Islam mixed up with culture.

Can A Couple Avail Of The Benefits Of Marriage Before Walima and After Nikah?

			**Question:**

			
			**Now it is very common to get your nikah done but still live at your parent's house for various reasons and after a period of time have a reception and the walima. So during the period that the couple has their nikah done, is everything allowed that a fully married couple could do? **

		
		 				**Answer:**

In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,
Once the marriage ceremony (nikah) itself takes place, properly, the couple become wife and husband. Everything permitted for husband and wife becomes permitted for them. However, some social sense and sensitivity is needed, because one’s family may well react very negatively if certain limits are breached.

	And Allah alone gives success. 
	Faraz Rabbani 

Source: Can A Couple Avail Of The Benefits Of Marriage Before Walima and After Nikah?

Consummating the marriage before the rukhsati & night or walima

		Answered by Shaykh Faraz Rabbanir
	
	 			 				**Question:**

			
			**I have a question regarding Nikkah ceremony and Consumation of the marriage. I recently had my Nikkah Ceremony (Aqd) not long ago. Thereafter, we have been spending a lot of time together--but we haven't had the rukhsati or walima celebrations. Occasionally we go to his apartment. We do engage in foreplay and the like, and have already consumated our marriage, before our walima. Traditionally in our culture-- there are the occasions of 'rukhsati' before the walima, where the couple consumates the marriage the night of the rikhsati. Have we sinned in consumating our marriage (we had mutually agreed to engage in the act)? Are we supposed to have waited until the 'rukhsati' and the time I am actually living with him? Our families have no idea we had consumated the marriage already-- do they need to know?

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		 				**Answer:**

Walaikum assalam wa rahmatullah,
I pray that this finds you well, and in the best of health and spirits. May Allah grant you all good and success in this life and the next.
There is nothing wrong with consummating the marriage any time after the marriage takes place. The walima can thereafter be held at any time after it. Please search SunniPath Answers (SunniPath Answers: The Source of Relevant & Reliable Islamic Answers) for related answers on the fiqh of “walima” ] The rukhsati itself isn’t a sunna celebration.
There is no need for the family to know whether and when a marriage is consummated.

And Allah alone gives success.

Faraz Rabbani

Source: Consummating the marriage before the “rukhsati” night or walima

Regarding the sunnah of consumating the marriage before walima which totally blows away the argument that a couple can’t sleep together after just nikkah:

Why is it emphasized to consummate the marriage before the walima? What about the underlying fe

Marriage: How to perform the nikah according to the sunna in the Hanafi school

‘The Messenger of Allah (upon him be peace) provided walima after many of his marriages** by feeding the people a goat. Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) relates that the Messenger of Allah (upon him be peace)** provided a walima on the occasion of the consummation of his marriage with Zaynab bint Jahsh. He provided meat and bread to the fill off his guests (Bukhari).’

It’s very dangerous for people to throw around their own opinions saying a couple can’t have sex after nikkah and try and present it as fact. Some people need to learn to separate Islam from culture

Yes.

Actually this is really ideal situation, instead of going out with non MAHRAM, it is very good idea to have Nikah and for Rhkhsati is just a cultural formality.

Peoples are mixing cultural and region that is the reason our society is in mess.