Never thought I would share it ....

Hey how you are feeling is completely normal and to be expected - have you heard of a "battered-wives' syndrome"?? Sometimes wives feel like they don't have a choice, they are afraid to leave and stick to the situation that brings them no-good. Please look into this syndrome and although your husband isn't physically abusive, you might still be able to understand how you're feeling and why. It'll help you get out of this disastrous, self-damaging relationship. Oh and it does NOT mean something is wrong with you, you are perfectly normal, just a small barrier is preventing you from taking a step that is so very needed. Will remember you in my prayers.

Very lame, CJ.

I AGREEEEE!!!! Also see a psychiatrist- not your husband. YOU should see one. They ARE REALLY helpful. I think you are also suffering from depression, they way you are describing yourself! It's true that there is nothing wrong with you, depression is normal after five YEARS of a baiscally horrible marriage. They can really help you!

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And was there some black magic done on you that's preventing you from telling us the details?

Regardless, of whether it's black magic, or cheating, or whatever, fact is he's not consummating the marriage and you need a divorce, and in Islam you have that right, especially if your her husband is denying you.

So what's stopping you? you need to marry someone else, unless you want to keep living with you roommate of a husband childless for life.

^^ that what i m wonderning...how much love do u have for him??
u sound tired, n he doesn't care. i really think its time for u to move on.

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1-what does hubby says when you tell him you are thinking about leaving him ??

2- Five years is long time if he under a visious spell it would have effected every asspec of his life.
IS performing normal on work and with other relations (bro. sis father etc )

3-I am really sorry to ask that sister but do other men find you attractive?? plz don't answer it, think about it. and speak to girls on GS about it. But plz do.

4- does he find other women attractive ?

also tell

5-is hubby under some pressure to keep this marriage(his parents or conservative family etc)

PS: special thanks to chily Milly

I would realy like to know to know this too. Like social pressure. There's something going on his side!! HE doesn't seem to TOO worried about not consummating the marriage- if he's JUST watching TV!!!!!! there's GOTTA be something on here!!!

Hey sweet heart…..
Why are you losing hope…. Come on you should think positive…. I don’t suggest you to jump to a decision of divorce cuz I know its really difficult for you right now. That is the reason I suggested you to go away on vacation…..

You need a break. If you can afford just take your sibling or friend with you and go out of city. Its gona relax you and you can analyze your situation better when you are out of this whole situation and away from him.

Why do you think that after divorce you wont find any one better then him?
Let me tell you about this person who is closely related to me. Hope after reading this you start to think positively abt ur future...

well i know this person who was engaged to her cousin (taya's son) for a long time, the guy was in england. After the gal's dad passed away, mom wanted to do her shadi.....and someone told the family that they guy is involved with some girl in england so dont do her shadi with the cousin....after that the girl's family noticed that the guy doesnt luk so happy with the rista

so when girl's mom got other proposals for the girl and she was actually considering some of them for her daughter when one day guy's dad (taaya) came and said that if she broke the ristah and married her daughter to some other guy he is gona kill everyone on barat day and will never let her do her shadi.
mom was too scared cuz she had no one who could support her in the family.....her husband already passed away and left her with young daughters and sons.... so she didnt break her daughter's engagment and married her to the cousin....

this girl moved to uk, that was when she realized what exactly happened to her. Her husband would not come home for days and when he would, he would tell her that he feel suffocated when he is near her. He doesn’t understand what happens to him whenever he come close to her.... this girl would leave the house and walk on the snow, crying. She had no one who she can share her pain. Her mom back home (in pakistan) was already worried for her and her other sisters that she never wanted to give her mom more worries but whenever she talked to her, she told her to pray for her.

This girl started working (labour jobs), when one day her husband told her that he is already happily married and his dad (girl's taya) forced him to marry her or else he'll disown him.

Mom was so worried abt her daughter that she went to uk jst to see her if she is happy in her marriage.....but found out all this.
It was really difficult to get a divorce again because of her taya after that she started living with her sister in uk. Whenever she went to her mamo's house in uk for her weekend, she would be the one cleaning their house, cooking, washing dishes while other would enjoy the weekend.

One of her cousin who is extremly gud luking, decent, religious, got a really gud job with a handsome salary told his parents his pasand. His mom was shocked cuz this girl was divorcee plus he was couple of years younger than the girl. He told them that he has to marry some girl so why not her. beside its so hard for her to marry some nice guy cuz no one is going to accept her after knowing she is divorced and might think all kinds of stories and related to her about her divorce and i dont want her to go through same torture.

he also told his family that he knows her very well and i know what kind of person she is and age and being divorcee doesnt matter to him, out beloved prophet (pbuh) also married older women.

Her cousin had a very hard time getting married to her but he got married to this girl cousin. He bought a very nice huge house couple of blocks away from his parent's house and moved out cuz he knew his mom (who is momani of the girl) is not accepting her. He is a very good son and very gud husband. Though her inlaws did give her hard time....time to time but isnt that what all girls go through.
Now this girl has three very beautiful kids, a very loving n caring husband. Even though her husband has a very very tuff routine. He works in this very big company and due to his job he is extremly busy but whenever his wife's family come over to see her, he manages time for them. Every year her husband takes her to different countries for vacation so they can spend time together as he rarely gets time throughout the year for the wife and kids. He still loves her the most, he is so senseable and caring. Seriously we all admire her life…… yeh she had been through a lot but now alhumdolilah she is enjoy her married life.

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^ from that I have another question, do you live in joint family system ?
did you and him every stay in differ city honey moon style ??
If not do that first , that alone may fix the issue for you. stay some place nice for a month or so.
beach or mountain.

he is just there to watch tv? u mean he didnt work all those 5yrs but u did? confused
was he even working prior to your marriage? jezz this 'not consumating the marriage in 5yrs' or so didnt struck me that hard as much as this 'just watching tv' thing did.
if he says he dont feel any attraction towards you but towards the other women then PLEASE get one of those girls and ask him to peform the deed ... otherwise he is GAY

Leave him ... he is using you, abusing you. period

lol.

seriously.. u need a honeymoon style vacation to consumate even after 5yrs??? r u a Man?
khair.. she said they did .. magar baat sirf 2 kiss say aagay barhii nahi

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there could be many factors, I guess girl has lot more about the guy then she shared.
May be she is thinking its not relevant.
5 years is a very long time. I am sure she could give ur lot more information on the guy.

wow u actually read my long reply :hmmm:

u were the last person in my mind who is gona read it

5yrs without consummation ... is you marriage even valid from Islamic point of view?
back to tv thingy ...is he physically disabled .. can't he work?

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i think she mentioned about him going to work and come home and watch tv.....

Well that proves one thing: He probably thought "consummate" is some document that didn't get signed.

haha… thats what i think …:hehe:
oh well.. he/she have just learned something new here… :hehe:

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To the person who posed the question: their marriage is still valid eventhough it was not consummated.

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^ Don't think she was questioning the validity or shari status of her marriage (unless I missed that).

Original Poster Let me organize all the options you have.

A. Divorce him.
B. Move somewhere else, like you mother's place AWAY from this loser, and see what happens then for a period of 1 mo or so.
C. Continue living the way you are

I choose A. Some ppl said B, but I think you know all that you need to know about him (5 YEARS!!!) to make your decision and you really don't need any transition period.

If you choose C--> then your just torturing yourself.

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Dear sister, salute to you for being so very patient, loyal and and excellent homemaker. Blackmagic ruins lives, someone also did it on my husband, he is a doc and had left and ignored his profession totally and just used to help his dad at a simple shop.

Ure life has been very very tough, u will be rewarded heavily inshallah.

In Islam men and women have rights over one another. These rights extend to every part of marriage, even the sexual relations. Both men and women have rights in this department and I will talk about both the men and the womens rights.

First lets talk about the womens rights because many people think women are second class citizens in Islam and have no rights, sadly even some Muslims think this way. But that is simple not true. A women has the right to enjoy sexual relations with her husband just as much as a man does.

Imaam al-Bukhaari reported from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas, who said: “The Messenger of Allaah SAW (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘O ‘Abd-Allah, have I not heard that you fast all day and stand all night in prayer?’ I said, ‘Yes, O Messenger of Allaah.’ He said: ‘Do not do that. Fast and break your fast, stand in prayer and sleep. For your body has rights over you, your eyes have rights over you, and your wife has rights over you.’” In the commentary on this hadeeth, it says: “The husband should not exhaust himself in worship to the extent that he becomes too weak to fulfil her rights by having intercourse with her and by earning a living.” (Fath al-Bari)

It is also the wife’s right that her husband should spend his nights with her. Ibn Qudaamah al-Hanbali said: “If he has a wife, he should spend one night in four with her, so long as he has no excuse.” (Al-Mughni, 7/28; Kashf al-Qinaa’, 3/144).

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said: “It is obligatory for the husband to have intercourse with his wife as much as is needed to satisfy her, so long as this does not exhaust him physically or keep him away from earning a living… If they dispute over this matter, the judge should prescribe more in the way of intercourse just as he may prescribe more in the way of spending.” (Al-Ikhtiyaaraat al-Fiqhiyyah min Fataawa Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah, p. 246)

Sharee’ah also requires that a wife be protected from immorality by means of her husband having intercourse with her, as much as is needed to satisfy her and to provide this protection. But there is no way that this can be stated in terms of a specific period of time, such as four months, or more, or less. It should be defined according to the wife’s needs and her husband’s ability to fulfil her rights… All of this applies in normal circumstances, when the husband is present and living with his wife.

Intercourse is obligatory upon the man if he has no excuse. This was also the view of Maalik.

Al-Mughni, 7/30
Al-Jassaas said:
He (the husband) is obliged to have intercourse with her, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“…so as to leave the other hanging (i.e. neither divorced nor married)…”
[al-Nisa’ 4:129]
meaning, neither divorcing her so that she can marry another or leaving her without a husband because he is not fulfilling his duty of having intercourse with her.
Ahkaam al-Qur’aan, 1/374

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