Re: NA-246 bi-elections: Apr. 23 : Karachi Areas Azizabad, F.B. Area , F.C. Area
I don’t buy this rhetoric. PTI vote is very much on the rise in affluent areas of Karachi. Likes of Arif Alvi, Ali Zaidi, Asad Umar, Naz Baloch, Imran Ismail and others certainly have their presence (and fan following) in those areas.
If you are talking about usual MQM strongholds, pray tell me, how on earth it would’ve been possible to do campaign in 9-0 without rangers arresting most of MQM target killers and hooligans. Even rangers lost their patience and had to baton charge MQM thugs for stoning offices and burning flags - they are animals! PTI had to plead in media that it is their right to do electoral campaign in 9-0, and they had a clear purpose for visiting such areas. Media constantly had to be on MQM’s case to contain them. Imran Ismail had been a victim of MQM thuggery and attacks since day one of election campaign, do you really think PTI delegate and activists can randomly go to NA-246 and do door to door campaign or any social work without dodging a bullet or bat on their heads? I just stand people who make opposition to MQM in Karachi such an easy peasy thing.
Hopefully, such results would make PTI realise the importance of their young, educated, middle class and ethnically diverse vote bank in Karachi and strengthen their voice. They have found their niche in Karachi and maybe for sometime, just stick to them. If you can’t offer Jiye Muhajir slogans to some areas, don’t bother wasting your time. Time to get practical.
Re: NA-246 bi-elections: Apr. 23 : Karachi Areas Azizabad, F.B. Area , F.C. Area
that was my point too
and that is that even in free and fair elections (today), MQM will take most of the seats hands down with huge margin.
Other parties make fuss about bogus vote as if in absence of bogus votes, they will beat MQM. Bogus voting is true to some extent but not to the extent to erase difference of 80k…90k…100k…120k
They might lose 2-3 seats though like Farooq Sattar’s seat…
Re: NA-246 bi-elections: Apr. 23 : Karachi Areas Azizabad, F.B. Area , F.C. Area
Expected result in the end, not much has changed in terms of votes which is not shocking as MQM has been playing victim card after being exposed.
It will take time for people to realize the violent parties need to be booted out but “Muhajir” card for MQM is much stronger than any criminal activity they are found involved in at this stage.
Re: NA-246 bi-elections: Apr. 23 : Karachi Areas Azizabad, F.B. Area , F.C. Area
Buahahaha… ya ofcourse only you know how democracy works.. baqi sab to to yahan chanay ya bhuttay bechne aae hen
So as per you PTI got the same % of votes as in the GE, ok, so that means if today GE happens with all the holiday etc as you said, MQM will also get 50-60K more votes right?
And if its only a bi-election with as less value as you are trying to portray here, then why in the world, i repeat, why were they saying they’ll easily get 50K+ votes since last time they got 32K votes!!! Even if our fellow PTI worker said that in the same thread, and he was actuallly giving very good points but that didnt help. As per his report, there were thousands of PTIans in the HQ when they were doing training for election camps. So after all these efforts, you are still adamantly denying the fact that their vote count is extremely low… so isnt it a failure??
You can absolutely keep giving PTI credit or debit wutever you want.. I wont cuz they failed.. ya they really did.
I understand your frustration seeing the results.. but as i said, better luck next time. :k:
Re: NA-246 bi-elections: Apr. 23 : Karachi Areas Azizabad, F.B. Area , F.C. Area
Well done mqm, they have won with an impressive margin in the end. This shows that they can win Karachi even without using high handed tactics. They should try to improve their image in Karachi. Ptis votes have reduced considerably which shows that people have not taken positively to their shenanigans post azadi March. The victim card that mqm played would have helped as well. Silver lining is that it’s still Pti in the second slot in Karachi.
Re: NA-246 bi-elections: Apr. 23 : Karachi Areas Azizabad, F.B. Area , F.C. Area
I was reading a tweet by some memon that bohras, Memons and Ismailis were threatened in the general elections (by mqm) and they didn’t come out to vote this time.
Re: NA-246 bi-elections: Apr. 23 : Karachi Areas Azizabad, F.B. Area , F.C. Area
After all Karachi belongs to the people who live there, if they love the way how mqm operates, all power to them. After all it’s them to will bear the consequences as well. This party is in absolute control for the past 30 odd years and the direction the city has gone is infront of everyone. At one stage there were talks of Karachi overtaking HongKong. That didn’t happen, and in the mean while Dubai came out of no where and overtook Karachi.
Re: NA-246 bi-elections: Apr. 23 : Karachi Areas Azizabad, F.B. Area , F.C. Area
Agree shah jee. Everyone including PTI has said these were fair elections and MQM won by a huge margin. Well lets not forget that this constituency was MQM’s central fort so they were expected to win..question was the margin and they did win by a big margin…so yes and i do agree with your second point that MQM has a huge following among public in Karachi and they dont need to do all stupid high handed tactics. why cnat they leave bhatta politics?
Those PTI supporters who are now bad mouthing and cursing general public for voting for MQM are nothing but khasyani billie khamba nochay. we need to respect people’s decision as long as elections are fair.
JI will never grow its core base…there is no serious place for JI and other religious parties in Pakistani politics.
Re: NA-246 bi-elections: Apr. 23 : Karachi Areas Azizabad, F.B. Area , F.C. Area
PTI is nothing but advanced version of JI with only difference there is no religion in PTI.. rest it is doing same things JI used to do in 80s and 90s and later on the platform of MMA…
Today I can say, IK with his stupid remarks is soon becoming Sheikh Rasheed and in 2018, if PTI doesn’t deliver then they may not be able to win the number of seats they currently holds in NA!!!
So far, In Lahore situation is not very good for PTI, specially after their LAHORE - BND thingy, people have seriously asking about the performance, and if NS govt can deliver 40 or 50% of what is on the cards, i don’t see any chance for PTI in next general elections…
Re: NA-246 bi-elections: Apr. 23 : Karachi Areas Azizabad, F.B. Area , F.C. Area
Credit to rangers for maintaining order except for the minor skirmishes in this by-poll. Overall it was a decent turnout and people came and voted at the polls. It was a heated contest between an established party in their heartland where they had clear advantage against an emerging party and won by a wide margin as expected.
PTI does have a strong voter base in the city and come next elections you can expect that to grow considerably.
Kudos for Imran Ismail and Haider Rizvi to come meet together for chai during the early hours of the polling for solidarity and that each would congratulate the other regardless of the turnout. It was a positive step.
This is also great step for the election process since it was much more scrutinized than any other previous elections and in the midst the JC review of electoral reforms it will enhance the future polling methods. The established parties need to realize that they can’t do with old ways no more.
Re: NA-246 bi-elections: Apr. 23 : Karachi Areas Azizabad, F.B. Area , F.C. Area
I think JI was reminiscing about its past glory in KHI but fail to understand that politics has changed dramatically since. It was never in a position to be a power broker. In this by-poll it just divided the vote and most of those could could have been bagged by PTI. It would have been an interesting to see 2 major contenders rather than 3. The margin of votes could have been slightly different.
Re: NA-246 bi-elections: Apr. 23 : Karachi Areas Azizabad, F.B. Area , F.C. Area
I am not sure if I agree with that part, may be in Punjab side they are acting like JI of 80s/90s but definitely not in Khi. In Karachi JI was the MQM, nobody could challenge them, they introduced weapons in universities/colleges.
Re: NA-246 bi-elections: Apr. 23 : Karachi Areas Azizabad, F.B. Area , F.C. Area
I was there yesterday. Worked as a polling agent for PTI. Would have loved to write a detailed account but physically too exhausted at the moment so may be later.
Just to set the record right, I am not officially a PTI worker, not yet atleast. I voluntarily filled the form for polling agent online and was contacted next day and instructed to visit Insaf house where training sessions were being held. The people and environment there both looked good to me so I decided to dig deeper and attend the jalsa as well.
I returned from jalsa with mix feelings but nothing bad enough to pull me back from serving as a polling agent.
Re: NA-246 bi-elections: Apr. 23 : Karachi Areas Azizabad, F.B. Area , F.C. Area
Performance is the key here, if PMLN delivers 40-50 % of what they have promised the people they deserve to win. If they wont perform they’ll lose. All of their eggs are in China’s basket…fingers crossed! Otherwise nothing revolutionary has happened so far.
