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Ur husband deserves a slap a very hard one. Do people know how to treat elders. N ur SIL--do ppl know how to handle situations. I have seen many paki women specially when them bcom the "HONOURABLE" inlaws of the bahu, dey get themselves a liscence to create scenes. I have seen many ppl having issues wid outsiders , insiders but dey handle them in a subtle way not like dis "creating a tamasha at home".

N how the hell dis SIL cud b made incharge of the house when u r the bahu rite there.

I dont want to utter a word about ur husband--or else iwill say super harsh things.

Nyhow. Pakistani ppl r very ungrateful "qaum". When dey dont have something or someone, dey lick at ppl's feet to get it, ven dey get it dey r like hum nay ehsaan kiya hai.

Secondly ur mom didnt act any nicer. I mean in which world is she living, naukar naukar , what about all other woman who cant afford a naukar nanny to take care of babies. Since the existence of human life had ppl been hiring naukar to take care of babies. It isnt a dat long ago trend. so ur mom going around telling dat to every1 wasnt wise.

But ofcourse if u can afford one get one. Or if ur mom can gift u one since she hyped it all.

Ur mom saying tum betho naukar paani lay aey ga sounds weird to me too. Getting water is not like brining it from water tank.

Nyhoo, idont know wut to advice u about apology, tho the fault is their own very clearly. Ur sil needs to respect elders , she has a son, she cud expect a bahu like herself.
What goes around comes around.

This is the cheapest thing paki inlaws do is make bahu make apologize for their own faults.

My very personal opinion, dont act on it, apologize karti hai juti. N if a girl has strong background she should give such inlaws hard time real hard time.

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Gullible, I just hope & pray that things will work out for you InshAllah. :hugz:

REDVELVET this is the thing that annoys me most k husband ku chup hai Maine husband ko kaha b k I will say sorry to divorced SIL on my parents behalf but hubby says say sorry to ALL. N isn't talking to me since 4 days. Abu ki b ghalti thi aur sil ki b but y hubby doesn't tell his sil's words to my mil. N my sil who insulted my parents is not a bachhi she is around 45 yrs. Almost my mama's age.

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Gullible basically uneed to evaluate ur options.

Current situation: Noone talking to u not even the husband. N all dis is bothering u badly. There is one thing u shud learn in life. dont care about ppl who dont care about u. The kind of inlaws u have, them not talking to u isn't that important n disturbing, tho the air still stays thick wid tension, n no normal human likes it dat way. But if some1 is wrong n hurting dey r dat n dey should b avoided.

The most disturbing part is ur husband. His silence at the first stage, his shameless smile , and current behaviour.

Our pakistani men r the most weekest for wut ihave observed, there only mardangi pride is that v r physically stronger then men.

Allah has appointed man the head of the house. Why? So he maintains n peace n does justice to all.

Everyone including wife's rights are clearly defined.

No ur husband has acted way disgusting , going as far as asking u to apologize n not listening to ur explanation.

Gullible ur husband , inlaws , mil r not the end of ur life that their narazgi specially sils n mils , is torturing u so badly.

Many women survive successfully in joint fam sys due to supporting n listening to their wives woes. I dont means dils r never scheming .

No look at ur chances and future consequences

1) U apologize to all all simply n make up wid everyone.
drawback: u can expect similar apologies crossing ur way again, since despite not being at fault u gave in, jo dab gaya den he becomes victim.
But still future cud b diff

2) U try to explain things to ur husband. if he listens, n gets nicer to u, fine den dont care about inlaws, r make steady moves towards patch up. U have one husband only , ur inlaws r not ur husband. remember.

3) Reading in other threads about ur mil , explaining things to her, incase ur hus doesnt listen to u, also doesnt sound too positive, but ucan try, but i read u somewhere calling her cunning, she cud also misinterpret explanation from ur end n exploit more.

4) Calling in parental support. Specially if u have a strong baq.
In dis case many things can happens. mutual apologies from both ends cud happen. Or matters cud b worsened. Also parental support includes u moving baq to ur parents for sometime. Things not getting solved, inlaws acting stiff cud result in divorce.

5) Deciding whether u want to apologize or not. Not apologizing can result in what consequences , think over that n see if u will b ready for things in future. And what apologizing can bring.

How much u still love husband . Incase u break up, baby will stay wid whom.

Everyone has a diff way of problem solving. Jo bura karta hai one day reaps that.

The rule "i am always wrong" stated in some other thread is the most absurdest i eva read unless there is no way out NO WAY OUT. Fine somtimes such rules r effectual but like not always. Dekho apna haq fite karna parta hai . Dat is y m telling u , evaluate all extremes.

I c u as a weak person at the moment. U dont know how to take stand for urself. But time will teach u as u r going thru hard stuff.

I dont want to give u any specific advice , except for that u have to be patient. Cuz telling u outrite to apologize , like many ppl have done, makes me think, wud those ppl if in such situation will do the same???? I dont think they all will. U r bearing the pain u know how tuff it is. That is y iam telling u c wut u want.

As an aside: Kabhi kabhi life may bohat kuch u have to sacrifice , that includes ur ego too. By that idont mean u go and do it, and not exactly about ur circumstances , imean dis is life, dis is called TRIAL.

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haha....typically the inlaws in our desi culture create so big dramas that no one has the time for post partum depression....u ride a rollercoaster of emotions throughout the time your kids are young.... n if you survive that....a very new drama starts next....

sorry i can't be of any help here....

Shayad aisa karne se ghar k mahol behtar ho jaye. Agar tum apna husband k saath rehna chahti ho........alag nahin hona chahti.......to just do it. Just put a FAKE smile on your face and apologize. Woh log drama kar rahain hain tumharay saat.........to tum bhi un k saath drama/acting/naatak karo.

Think about your baby. He should grow up in a peacfeful family environment. That's more healthy for him. So, do it for him.

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Talk to your parents.........and arrange for a family discussion where everyone can talk calmly. And your abbu needs to talk CALMLY instead of helping to create problems for you in your in-laws.

***********My only concern with you apologizing to everyone is that..........the damn in-laws might get so used to it............that they'll ask you to apologize to them for every little thing in the future. They could possibly get a kick out of it. That's why I feel that a family discussion/meeting might be best....so that everything is out on the table.........and compromises can be made........and hopefully you won't be manipulated by them.

*******Try to solve this matter before **Ramzan comes. It would be very wrong for the family to ignore each other during Ramzan. What's the point of keeping rozas when everyone is treating each other like crap and destroying the peace in the house. It will destroy the spirit of the month.

i basically agree with lots of ur things but this situation is different. it has gone very critical. one wrong move now can destroy everything.

by sayng"yea i'm always wrong n u r right" doesn't mean u r weak n always wrong. its just a way of shutting others up. to put a stop to an arguement right n there. this is wat it means.

a girl can b strong if atleast someone is on her side. in this household no one is supporting her.

if she cares for no one n let things be"koi baat nahi ker reha fine na keray. i don't care" they won't let her live like that. i'm sure they'll themselves call her family n ask them to take her away.

ye normal family nahi hai. ek tang kernay n strong networking wali family hai. being run by bunch of egoistic, silly ladies. u know y her husband behaves like this ?? becoz whole time we never once heard abt the Fil. he's alive but still doesn't exist in this whole drama.
So its the Fil. if Such fils/guys slap ther wives n daughter tight at right time their women don't go abt torturing other women. its the Fil that the husband is following. this is a house ruled by ladies n being destroyed by ladies. So only a lady with strong mind n clever ways can handle it.

just leaving them is no answer. they'll b fine. Gullible n her son will b at lost. aisay logon ko un k beech reh ker sabaq seekhana chahhiay. wat they say to break up a group first b a part of it. make them miserable by living within them.

Gullible,

I think you should listen to Mabrook. Jo woh suggest kar rahi hai....woh tum karo. Woh log tumharay saath ziyadati aur zulm kar rahain hain........aur agar tum bhi dheet ban kar raho gi...........this can damage your marriage and make things worse. Allah will teach them a lesson. Bajaye yeh k tum moon bana kar apna ghar barbad karo............tum bahut ARAAM se aur CHALAKI se un ko sabaq sikhao. Be the bigger person than them. Woh drama kar rahain hai....to tum bhi un k saath game khelo....acting karo ;) ;) Go to MIL and say...."Aunti/Ammi....mainay kuch bhi nahin kaha.......lekin phir bhi main ghalat thi. Aaap ki aur aap ki betiyon ki koi ghalati nahin. Un se ghalati kabhi ho hi nahin sakti.......itni achi hain woh. Bas main hi kasoor-war hoon. Mujhay maaf kar dain ammi. Main itni khush kismat hoon k mujhay aap jaisi caring...respectful...loving...generous MIL mili hai. Forgive me, boo hoo hoo" LOL! Tension mat lo.........have fun in tricking them with your fake apology.

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Gullible,

. Woh drama kar rahain hai....to tum bhi un k saath game khelo....acting karo ;) ;) Go to MIL and say...."Aunti/Ammi....mainay kuch bhi nahin kaha.......lekin phir bhi main ghalat thi. Aaap ki aur aap ki betiyon ki koi ghalati nahin. Un se ghalati kabhi ho hi nahin sakti.......itni achi hain woh. Bas main hi kasoor-war hoon. Mujhay maaf kar dain ammi. Main itni khush kismat hoon k mujhay aap jaisi caring...respectful...loving...generous MIL mili hai. Forgive me, boo hoo hoo" LOL! Tension mat lo.........have fun in tricking them with your fake apology./QUOTE]

LOL RV aisay tu baichaee foraan pakri jaaiy gee k acting ker rehi hai. giv her some better dialogues yaar.

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LOL :rotfl: I know my dialog was over-the-top. I was exaggerating, yaar. I wanted to write an apology that would also insult them, hehe.

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i think Gullible should befriend the eldest Sil who mil made the incharge. aik tu she'll b more tamed by flattering dosra Gullible will learn from her the tricks to tackle with in-laws n stay @ maika for months.

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gullible: living here in pakistan and seeing and observing so many men in family, I have concluded certain things that really fit to all of them:

  1. husbands never ever like to listen anything negative about their family members from wife's mouth no matter how much they secretly swear upon their families being the worst on eatrh. it is natural plus also the fact/fear that if they ever try to defend their wife/inlaws, he wil have to listen to a list of taanay like 'biwi kay neechay lag gya hai' and the mil will immediately fall seriously ill with faking headaches and high blood pressure and rona dhona that mera betay ne badtameezi kar di and telling everyone the list of efforts she put in raising him from the first day of her pregnancy-so to avoid all this chaos at home, all they find easy to do is to boss bechaari wife..pooray khaandaan se larnay aur takkar lenay se behtar hai keh biwi kay sir per charh jao aur uss kay peeechay parr jao kay iss maslay ko apni ghalti maan kay khatam karo aur meri jaan chhoro ! so dont expect your husband to support you openly but what your husband is doing wrong is he actually thinks you are wrong and wants you to apoligise. all this i am telling you has been discussed with my husband today after I was preoccupied eversince I read your post in the morning. I know deep inside that my husband is with me no matter whatever we have t o pose infront of the family to keep things calm and going.

  2. NEVER involve your parents to apologise/discuss the matter. since your MIL has not yet contacted your family to clear/ask what happened in her absence, she will never consider their coming forward to solve the problem positively. also seeing that your parents are naturally concerned about YOU and not your household, all they'll do annd think about will be to do anything to get you out of this situation. I am sure they must be worried about you right now as well after tthe whole episode that 'hamari beti ka kya haal kiya hoga sub ne..unhoan nay hamara lihaaz nahin kiya tau uska kya karayn gay and blah blah' unko mazeed pareshaan na karo as if you tell them what is the situation at your place , they will consider it 10% of actual and will make up 90% theirself and consider you to be in a lot more trouble than you actually are. plus, seeing that it was your dad and not your mom who spoke in return to your sil'd insults (though if it was a woman misbehaving, your mom coming forward to answer would have had lesser impact than you dad doing it) that means your dad has an upper hand in dealing with problems and believe me dads become way more protective for their married daughters no matter apni biwi kay saath poori zindagi jesa bhi salook kiya ho..jo unki beti ko takleef day, they dont spare them and jump to DECISION MAKING(reaD: separation) rather than solving the problem cool mindedly. I have seen this happening..mothers have usually faced these problems all their life and they usually suggest their daughters to let go and tolerate but dads have 'dafa karo subko' type attitude.

as everyone did, i would suggest you to apologise. it is not a big issue when we consider that you are living in a joint family system-a typical one. I would suggest you to sit with your husband, talk tactfully to him that you expected him to support you, even if not infronnt of everyone,then within the bedroom and this way it wont have hurt apologising from anyone he had told to. and make him clear that you are apologising oNLY to make things better but you have lost respect for him and everyone else because they all have been unfair and they'll be answerable to GOD for it-remember..Allah wont ever forgive anyone not doing haqooq ul ibaad. hum nay kisi ko kya saza deni ya badlaa lena hai..Allah sub dekh rahay hain..uski pakar kaheen zyada hoti hai. and they apologise with MIL and SIL(staying woth you-the divorcee) INFRONT of your husband so that he sees his family's behaviour when you gave in to it.

keep us updated about whatever you decide to do. May Allah bless you.Aamin

I wonder that too! M'A she explains everything so nice and clear no matter what the topic/question is.

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next time karachi wali SIL ko tora bhao dai dainah … Good Luck …:chai:

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Hi Gullibe, I read your whole post.

I've to say that you would get a lot of opinions (good and bad) but please be careful and don't make a hasty decision. I have noticed a few ppl have mentioned divorce. Divorce is not the solution to all the problems! Please don't make a decision which would cause pain and regret for the rest of your life.

I have noticed some married ppl's advice to be very helpful including Mabrook's. I would say the same thing. Please handle the situation carefully. yeh choti si bat hai jo batangar banti ja rahi hia. Apologize as it would only make you bigger and not smaller of a person.

And yeah I think your dad shouldn't have gotten involved especially shouldn't have said about your sil who is divorced.

The fact that your husband din't say anything. I think i know why. You mentiond your sil is 45 almost ur mom's age so i'm assuming he respects her like his mom/older sister (i'm assuming ther's a huge gap b/w ur hubs and sil who is 45). So it's understandable that he din't say nything to her out of respect when ur dad told him to tell her to be quiet. Again wo ap k dad ki side letay ya apni mom jaisi older sis ki. He was prolly stuck b/w the two and chose not to say nything. If he had said to his sis then like Prototype said sari umar ka taana ban jata k susralyon k peechay lag gaya hai 4 dinon main. I am not defending him just tryin to highlite a perspective as to why he behaved the way he did.

In the end, i would just say apologize and for the future, dont let small things become so big. every family is different n does things differently. mayb in ru family, it's common to have maids for grandkids/kids but mayb not in ur mils family (not talking bout sil's families as they are not lving with ur sil). Try to keep urself busy and for now just baat kahtam kero aur bat ko aur ziada bigarnay say bachao.

Best wishes.

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apna kaam khud kar lo nokar ki kia zaroorat, waisy pakistan main maid rakhny ya nah rakhny per bari bari larai ho jati hai

aap kah abu ko nahin kehna chahia kah maid pani lah aay g . jub patha hai kah maid nahin to kiun aisi bat ki ,,, kamzoor ya weak koi aisi bari bat nahin ,, nah raat ko bar bar uth kah baby ko feed karna koi itna bara maslah hai kah iss bat sy shourah kar kah bat kahan sy kahan tak gai
SIL ghar main bethi hai yah bat abu ny achi nahin ki,, hubby ghusa main aa kar ulta seedha bol deta to uss ki to behn hai or kia patha kia reason thi kah wo bechari divorce ho gai,
or in choti choti batoon per nah aap ki ammi abu ko chahia kah bat karain nah MIL ko
maid rakhna ya nah rakhna aap ka or hubby ka decesion hona chaia nah kah baqi logoon ka kah wo mushwara dain

And a repeat of the same rant in another thread of the same forum.

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show some patience :chai:

Haan…that’s right. Har kaali raat k baad…savera hota hai. :stuck_out_tongue:

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smack ... i was sayin ths to mirchiiii :)

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Haan......that's right. Har kaali raat k baad.....
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savera
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hota hai. :P
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lobely