^ Ditto LK
I agree with Mad_scientist: The man was nominally a Muslim, before and as such Lajawabs reasoning is not accurate, and that also applies to a situation of War, not a case of abuse. Sexual abuse in Islam is unforgivable crime and the person deserves no mercy if the crime is proved.
Surah Baqarah
Verse 2:40: And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is). (Yusuf Ali translation)
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Then they'll make a joke out of the girl...
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Lajawab, do you know anybody who has been molested as a child? Do you know what kind of psychological trauma it causes and how it affects the person and haunts them forever? They don't need to have "intercourse" or "sex" with the molester in order to suffer psychologically for the rest of their lives.
The only person making a joke out of this girl is YOU since you aren't taking what happened seriously. I suggest you actually spend some time with a rape victim or a child molestation victim to see how their mind works and how they live their lives.
How is bringing the dog into the open gonna destroy the girl’s life? I mean, if someone had molested a girl from my family.. I would never think bad of the girl. I mean why should I? It wasn’t her damn fault! If people are this screwed up in this day and age to “talk” about the girl who is supposed to be the victim here..then fudge them all.
And what weakness and stupidity ?? That man was a full grown dog. He knew what he was upto. Wasn’t that he touched her just once. He did it whenever he got the chance to do so. Damn the dog! I am so furious right now.
Man.. u have a problem with women having men for skydiving instructors.. but u wanna forgive some dog who molested an innocent kid.. what is wrong with u? damn it! And pls don’t bring Quranic verses here. You think u are a good muslim… try being a good human-being first( good= rational, fair etc).
The man has repented coz he grew a damn beard? There are many cases of maulavis molesting lil children. Does that mean they are repenting as they are in the process of violating the kids? The man thinks he might still sneak into heaven if he grows a beard etc. But the dog in him wud never die. And don’t label science and psychology as western values. It is proven.. such sex offenders are bound to not change their ways.. even get worse with time. So .. pls stop sayng he has repented. And even if he has.. he has to pay for what he did to the girl. If people decide to ruin his daughter’s lives by not marrying them or whatever ur definition of ruining is..them fudge them all again!
Chandbeti … 
this is something that hits close to home...i know someone who went thru something like this but not to the same extent.. so my opinion is coming from what she has done to deal with it....at first I didn't want to post but I think a lot of u have so many misconceptions and way too many opinions
Firstly..I recommend ur friend talk to her mother about it...NOT FATHER or ne male relative...just her mother, I know she'll think that its going to hurt her mother n yes it will but its better then keeping it all inside...I'm sure her mom will feel the same way
Ur friend needs to realize that what happened to her was NOT her fault...what I don't understand thho is if she was in the 8th grade at the time she was old enuff to have at least tried to avoid him after the first time...if she can't come to terms with it herself, tell her to seek professional help
To be honest I have to agree with Lajawab to a certain point....bringing things out into the open especially after so long is just going to create a whirlwind of problems...idealistically she should be able to see him brought to justice...but it won't happen..she has no proof and if it wasn't intercourse, she has absolutely no case...while it may serve to keep other girls away from him..it will also create too much drama concerning her as well..and if the guy has repented and changed his ways and is no longer a danger to girls then there is no purpose in coming clean
The repurcussions of coming out in the open are too great..it will destroy the mans family n maybe the girl's own as well...will her family support her if she wants to come out into the open about it?..or maybe they won't want her to because it may tarnish her and her family's reputation...and apparently she isn't strong enuff to deal with that sort of emotional stigma....
I have more to say..but will do so later
She should talk to her mother and father and also to that aholes daughters and other kids he came into touch with...how many lives have been ruined because nothing was done for the sake of culture and religion...disgusting!!!!!!
ANd i can guarantee you, she wasn;t the first or the last...these diseased fk's should be killed.
you know what digusts me. ppl talk about honor...that if people dont find out her honor would be preserved..
thats not honor, thats the chance of what people may say, and yes some closed minded backward ass bi jamalo types may have a ball with talking smack about her, but you know what, teh same morons who would do that..would make sure their own kids are not close to this "repented guy"
she is a victim, and victims like these in our society stay quiet and deal with their demons themselves because of this strange honor business.
so really if it was your sister would you defend her honor by making sure this guy is pointed out as the moron that he is, or by just pretending nothing happened.
we want to stand against oppression against thsi and that, but here when a sinple example comes up about a person impacted in sucha manner, some want to believe that pretending that nothing happened is the best way?
i think she shud kill the uncle.. its pakistan.. she is never going to get caught.. and while she is at it kill lajjo and zain as well for their disgusting thoughts. i wonder what they'll do if it was their daughter or sister or wife? ask them to just shut up?
Your right Matsui, I’ve asked her to go public with it and shes even considered it but the only reason she is hesitates is because she knows its going to hurt her mother and she can’t bear to see that. Going public would benefit her health and help others in the long run, now I can’t force her to go public it’s her desicion. 
Its not Pakistan suroor we are living in America.
HB....check ur pm hun
Well I think pyschological help is the best approach for her, she wants this off her chest.
As for Lajawab calm down, I am beginning to suspect you’ve done something like this before and your convincing yourself rather than others! Why don’t you answer the question and say how you’ll feel had this happened to your sister huh!!!
in that case what is she waiting for? she has the support of law here. sue him n drag his ass to the prison already!
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in that case what is she waiting for? she has the support of law here. sue him n drag his ass to the prison already!
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She'll never produce convincing evidence that he did anything. It was too long ago - I don't think any court would convict the man on nothing other than the accusations of a single woman.
Unless she can find others who can back up her story, or get him to confess, she won't find any form of satisfaction in a courtroom. This man will no doubt find many character witnesses who will testify that he is incapable of such things.
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in that case what is she waiting for? she has the support of law here. sue him n drag his ass to the prison already!
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the girls got absolutely no case....there's no proof and it doesn't seem like it was intercourse...so it can't be proven as rape and prolly the statute of limitation is over even if there had been a case(not sure)
That is why she needs a lawyer who will talk to others who came across this guy. to let it go would be the biggest crime of all.
She can also go as an anonymous plaintiff until the class action is established.
she should find him in private and give him a swift kick in the ding dongs, he wont be able to prove that either..
she can also start sending anonymous notes to all families saying that he is a freak and things he has done.
he may deny it..but its sure to cause him some embarassment and in the note she could say that if others who have been affected want to send out a note as well, then ppl would start seeing this guy for who he is, who knows..maybe due to this a whole bunch of anonymous ppl will start sending letters.
i still like the first plan
matsui i read yer post after i posted mine i guess we were typing the same time.
the anonymous gig is an idea. i was thinking more of public humiliation vs yours which is more to send this guy to county resiential facilities with bubba as his room mate.
If there is sufficient cause then “people” can be the plaintiff. During the grand jury investigations, he rnamed can be anonymous. I watch Law and Order!!! 
A really sad state of affairs. This guy NEEDS to be taught a lesson and made to pay for his criminal behavior. I think you should talk to your friend and convince her that she MUST bring this guy to limelight. I agree with both Matsui and Fraudz about getting other victims on board. I am VERY VERY positive that he has ALSO molested his three daughters. Being VERY strict and supervising them like a guard is a clear signal he has and is doing stuff to them.
There are many ways of going public with this info and I think getting a state provided lawyer is the first step. Also, I bet there are many not-for-profit organizations who deal with such cases in the USA. Is she in the USA?.
I hereby suggest that this thread be given the Important status and MUST remain on top until we have a resolution or some sort of closure for her. I would like everyone to think about how this guy can be brought to justice. It is our duty as a human being to not let go Injustice unnoticed.