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Well, it seems Imran has decided to stay in hospital and keep in touch with people through media.

Whatever the reason, medical or someone's political advice... but this is best for him in political terms, as it would increase his votes and seats much more than if he was running around giving speeches. I have to wait and see, but if he uses this opportunity to the best, using media at its fullest, than certainly I would have to increase his seats count in my assessment. :)

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PPP is national party & has presence in every region of the country. Also, I think BB's income support program is going to help PPP with poor voters.

@Saleem, what makes you think that PMLQ will get that many seats w/o support/rigging from the establishment?

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There are some swing voters, undecided whom to vote? PTI or PMLN, it would help them decide.

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I don’t know about elsewhere.. PPP is in dire straits in Punjab. Guy like Aetizaz Ahsan could not attract 200 people to his jalsa. People like Kaira are trying to hide their affiliation with PPP in his campaign..
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^^^Well, PPP has incumbency disadvantages, but I still think they will win enough seats from South Punjab, Sindh and KP to come as a single largest party.

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If Pmln votes really fad up with Shareef bros. it's goes to PTI but I think it's also divided into PMlq, I still count atleast 20 for them!

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^ they will lose seats in KPK and south punjab too. PTI and PMLN will win at their expense, the performance of the party has been pathetic in punjab.

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They can win a maximum of 10 seats from South Punjab compared to a tally of 25 last time. I have been talking to people in Multan.. they are expected to win only one seat out of six. Both Gilanis are losing badly.. Bhawalpur, DG Khan have totally different dynamics. Jahangir Tareen is having a smooth sail on Lodharan seat. From Vehari they can win only one out of four.. In Bhawalnagar they are not winning a single seat. I'll consider them lucky if they are able to win 15 seats from Punjab including South Punjab.. and these 15 seats include all the swing seats going to their favor. On ground Firdous Ashiq and Kaira are running for their lives in this election. Although everyone is expecting Samina Ghurki to win from NA 130.. I consider that seat as a swing seat also..

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i hope this time it really only includes undecided voters and not the ghundas, in previous elections we have seen complete ballot boxes and polling booths getting highjacked in last couple of hours with "Thappa process" going on in full speed. this happened in Sindh and Punjab mainly, we all saw the videos of 2008 election rigging on youtube

if its only undecided voters swinging the results, its most likely PTI getting the benefit this time. its usually 2nd half of the voting day when undecided voters come out, their decision sometimes also depend on unofficial winning estimates based on who's election camp was crowded more. yes it will be interesting election

unfortunately, we are not getting chance to vote here in the UAE

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^ easy, book a flight and go vote in Pakistan. People from all around the world are reaching Pakistan for the purpose.

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It's unfortunate that PPP will only win those seats in punjab where they have their own following, nothing to do with Bhutto.

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^ how its unfortunate? bhuttosss no doubt "zinda hain" but they cannot make a failing party win for unlimited period of time. new kid will take time to rise to that level, that is, if he ever will

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Very sensible decision as for as staying in the hospital is concerned. From a pure PTIan point of view, his well-being is most important to us.

Losing/winning few seats is least of our concern.

I personally think, apart from telling media that he is fine (that too via his media team), he should take complete rest and not talk to media for the next few days.

Have the feeling, that number of seats PTI is going to win will largely remain unchanged.

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**Herald Exclusive: PML-N, PTI Are Neck & Neck

**However, expert survey indicates that PML-N and PPP are ahead of PTI in the election race.

Herald exclusive: PML-N, PTI are neck and neck | DAWN.COM

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There are many reasons.

1: I think establishment was against PMLQ winning the election in 2008, and that is the reason even though PMLQ got substantially more votes still much lower seats then PMLN.

(I believe, establishment wanted PPP to win the election and make government with PMLQ as junior partner, so that Pakistan can fight terrorists effectively, but BB died and Zardari wanting to become President, went against plan of establishment).

2: To fulfil their plan, establishment made many PMLQ candidates to contest election as independent and at places against each other. Thus in 2008, many PMLQ candidates contested election as independent and some won the election too. Since PMLQ did not contested these constituencies, PMLQ votes went to independent candidates ... but did not get recorded as PMLQ votes ... still, PMLQ got ~ 8.2 million votes throughout Pakistan compared to ~10.5 million votes for PPP and ~6.7 million votes for PMLN.

[PMLQ got ~5.5 million votes in Punjab and that was highest any party got in Punjab.]

3: Financial situation, available job and other opportunities of most Pakistanis, including students, increased substantially under Musharraf rule and then deteriorated under present political government. Even in Punjab, people have seen worse performance under PMLN compared to what they saw during PMLQ rule. All this is still in people’s memory, even though many in media and some political parties tried to undermine those achievements. All this would help PMLQ getting votes and winning constituencies.

4: Many constituencies PMLQ lost to PMLN and PPP with very thin margin (many due to PMLN and PPP helping each other).

5: Many PMLQ candidates are big landlords who can hold their constituencies irrespective of party, and that means, PMLQ would get those seats.

6: PMLQ has support in all four provinces, especially in Sindh under Arbab Ghulam Rahim, and can do lot of upset in coming election. In my opinion PMLQ would increase their seats in Sindh compared to 2008 election when PPP was riding high in Sindh on accidental death of BB before election.

7: PMLQ would benefit from Musharraf party (APML) not contesting election, as then both parties would have claimed economic success of Musharraf era, and votes would have got divided.

So I believe PMLQ still have substantial votes bank even though they lost 2008 election. On the other hand, even if PMLQ lost some of those votes bank (very unlikely, as there is no reason for that), PMLQ has joined hands with PPP in this election, and that would boost their chances at many constituencies.

Thus, I believe PMLQ would get reasonable number of seats, most likely more than PMLN even in Punjab … though I gave PMLQ lower number of seats in Punjab, as many PMLQ electable who could have got seats regardless of party, left PMLQ and joined PMLN or PPP. But then, I would not be surprised if they would get much more seats than what I assessed. Well, they can get lower number of seats too as it is possible that my assessment is wrong.

Anyhow, that is my assessment and I could be wrong. Let see what really happens in election.

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^

Isn't Arbab Ghulam Rahim contesting as Independent candidate?

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I might be wrong, but I think he is still with PMLQ. I have to check again. :)

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^^^ You are right. It seems Arbab Ghulam Rahim has left PML (Pakistan Muslim League) and created his own party PML (Peoples Muslim league). That means PMLQ would get few less seats than what i thought.

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what do you think are the strongholds of PMLQ in Sindh?

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I think PMLQ still have votes in Sindh, but With Arbab Rahim leaving PMLQ, I do not even know who is managing their affairs in Sindh, and thus could not really say where they could win seats.

Actually, most seats in interior Sindh belong to Vaderas controlling the area. Party matters but very little. So, for PMLQ or any party to win seats they have to get strong candidates rather win heart and mind of voters. If PMLQ or any party do not have strong candidates, then there is little chance for them to win seats.

As for cities where heart and mind matters, PPP and MQM has supports in most constituencies, leaving very little or no space for other parties.