Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law have been told leave Australia

[funny_jammies]

Re: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law have been told leave Australia

@Kaleem

One can classify the US army as terrorists…afterall it was unjust war based on lies and alterior motives. Hence the army is acting as tool of terror.

No one cannot. The US army has not targetted civilians in Iraq.

[skhan]

Re: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law have been told leave Australia

^ lmao!!!!!!

[Sara516]

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@underthedome

Blunt and to the point, any hurt feelings?
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A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament.

“If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you,” he said on national television.

"I’d be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that that is false.

“If you can’t agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country which practises it, perhaps, then, that’s a better option,” Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked move to the other country.

Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should “clear off”.

“Basically, people who don’t want to be Australians, and they don’t want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off,” he said.

Muslim schools will have to denounce terrorism as part of an effort to stamp out home-grown extremism under measures announced after Howard’s meeting with 14 Islamic leaders Tuesday.

The prime minister called the meeting in the wake of last month’s London bombings by British-born Muslims, amid fears that Australia could be the target of a similar attack by disaffected members of its small Muslim community.

“The purpose of the meeting was to identify ways of preventing the emergence of any terrorist behaviour in this country,” Howard told commercial radio Wednesday.

“You won’t change the minds of people who are hardened fanatics and hardened extremists. You have to identify them and take measures to ensure that they don’t become a problem.”

Asked if he was prepared to “get inside” mosques and schools to ensure there was no support for terrorism, Howard said: “Yes, to the extent necessary”.

Britain, shaken by the rail and bus bombings which killed 56 people, is debating new powers which could include closing mosques where clerics are suspected of supporting extremists and deporting those who glorify suicide bombers.

Meanwhile, an Islamic youth organisation that was not invited to Howard’s Tuesday meeting said it would call an alternative conference – on September 11 – for what it says is the 80 percent of Muslims who were not represented.

The Affinity Intercultural Foundation (AIF) told national radio it wants to try to change the date’s association with Islamic violence, and to highlight how mainstream Muslims have become victims of prejudice and bias.

AIF director Mehmet Saral said Muslims were feeling more victimised than at any other time in their history of living in Australia. Some 300,000 Muslims make up just 1.5 percent of Australia’s population of 20 million.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050824/wl_asia_afp/australiaislamattacks

And what’s wrong with that? If you’re not going to abide by a country’s values then get out. I’m sure Pakistan and Saudi Arabia and other “Islamic” nations would not think twice of kicking out Christians/Jews/Hindus/other non-Muslims who did not want to abide by their laws.

[deedawar]

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@funny jammies

No one cannot. The US army has not targetted civilians in Iraq.

No civillion is targetted, they are just being unfortunate victims of ‘collateral damage’.
Its their fault if they were so close to the target.
And if you do not know the meaning of collateral damage then its or own fault.

[funny_jammies]

Re: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law have been told leave Australia

^ if you seriously believe that, it will explain why osama is still in business

[deedawar]

Re: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law have been told leave Australia

Funny Jammies!

Are you justifying killing of innocents???

[deedawar]

Re: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law have been told leave Australia

@Sara516

And what’s wrong with that? If you’re not going to abide by a country’s values then get out. I’m sure Pakistan and Saudi Arabia and other “Islamic” nations would not think twice of kicking out Christians/Jews/Hindus/other non-Muslims who did not want to abide by their laws.

Muslims who do not want to follow non-islamic laws imposed on them have two options…
1- Change the law through proper, non-violent, political ways.
2- Leave the country.

But should never engage themselves against the rule of law. That’s not Islamic either. A countrie’s values must be upheld and honored by the citizens.

[The_Old_Man]

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@Ma Mooli

Shariah cant be dismissed like that for practising Muslims. Hence, it’s blatant racism fullstop.

How can it be racism if it is against a religious practice/belief? I always thought the label “racism” is between people of colour/culture.

Religious regulations will always clash with a countries laws unless the country is a theocracy.

This incident is on the same par with countries denying Christians the right to proclaim their faith to non-believers as per the last instruction of jesus Christ to his followers. In fact, some countries even impose a penalty tax on Christians and Jews in order for them to practice their religion in these countries. Surely these practices are as much “racism”/wrong as what AUS’s Prime Minister stated.

[funny_jammies]

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@deedawar

Funny Jammies!

Are you justifying killing of innocents???

do you even read what you write? No I am not justifying anything, there’s nothing to defend or justify.

I’ll say it in plain english one more time:

US does NOT target civilians.

[Kaleem]

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^ Really...those atomic bombs dropped on the Japanese cities must have been very very smart bombs that only took out military assets and personnel.

[funny_jammies]

Re: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law have been told leave Australia

^ oh, how much do you know of how America entered the war? Or would you have preferred that the war protracted for 10 more years causing the death of 10 times more civilians and military personnel?

BTW, America rebuilt Japan after that. How much has Osama contributed to the downtown NYC reconstruction fund?

[CM]

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Really? Since when did the Marshall plan cover Japan?

[Silly_Billy]

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@funny jammies

^ oh, how much do you know of how America entered the war? Or would you have preferred that the war protracted for 10 more years causing the death of 10 times more civilians and military personnel?

BTW, America rebuilt Japan after that. How much has Osama contributed to the downtown NYC reconstruction fund?

His family prob has the contract for the new twin towers!

japan decided to surrender after hearing Russia was about to enter the war in the pacific. The bombs were literally overkill and a demonstration of the depths the US would sink to to aquire global power.

[Silly_Billy]

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btw the ozzies have a popn of about 3 people and 4 sheep, they worry about being invaded by fijian ground squirrels on a daily basis, they are out of their depth when it comes to religiois demographics they are more at home with kissing the queens butt and having kangaroo bbq's.

[Ma_Mooli]

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@The Old Man

How can it be racism if it is against a religious practice/belief? I always thought the label “racism” is between people of colour/culture.

Religious regulations will always clash with a countries laws unless the country is a theocracy.

This incident is on the same par with countries denying Christians the right to proclaim their faith to non-believers as per the last instruction of jesus Christ to his followers. In fact, some countries even impose a penalty tax on Christians and Jews in order for them to practice their religion in these countries. Surely these practices are as much “racism”/wrong as what AUS’s Prime Minister stated.

Well, because theres no other word/laws that covers prejudice against religion, racism tends to cover it pretty well.

It may or may not be on par, i dont know, but does that in anyway justify what the aussies are doing?

[CM]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/wwtwo/nuclear_04.shtml

Exactly what is looking for:

General Douglas MacArthur’s army headquarters in the Philippines, for example, had calculated that the maximum number of dead in the event of an invasion would be around 47,000

Not a million. Not even half a million. Not even a hundred thousand.

BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Hiroshima arguments rage 60 years on - More out of Japan.

[funny_jammies]

Re: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law have been told leave Australia

In that case, I suppose the US aid will no longer be required?

[deedawar]

Re: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law have been told leave Australia

@funny jammies

do you even read what you write? No I am not justifying anything, there’s nothing to defend or justify.

I’ll say it in plain english one more time:

US does NOT target civilians.

You got the answer to that in later posts.

[underthedome]

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@CM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/wwtwo/nuclear_04.shtml

Exactly what is looking for:

Not a million. Not even half a million. Not even a hundred thousand.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4724793.stm - More out of Japan.

How many would have died if Germany and Japan decided not wage war?

[The_Old_Man]

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@Ma Mooli

It may or may not be on par, i dont know, but does that in anyway justify what the aussies are doing?

It is just interesting to me that none of the people that bash the AUS prime minister here state that the other issues are wrong.

Is the AUS Prime Minister wrong? I think nothing of politicians. Would be interesting to know how far away the AUS general election is… I don’t put much value on what he said.