Re: Muslims who live in the West while hating the West....
Run?
Statistics just reinforce my point...I know they don't teach you math in your madrassah's.....
Oh Please.....
British Pakistanis are a disgrace to Pakistan and Pakistanis everywhere....
Just look at the numbers, 10% of all British Pakistanis agreed with the July 7 suicide bombing, 30-40% thought they understood why they did what they did, and only 10% thought it was totally unjustifiable....
When you have that kind of mentality, what do you expect?
You guys have shamed us....
Its because of you the world considers all Pakistanis as potential terrorists.....
Except a lack of education can make easy targets for brainwashing and turn them into these jihadi robots
What bandwagon?
These are my personal beleifs....And heck even Pakistanis who travel to England don't like British Pakistanis.....
We Pakistanis in Canada, USA, Australia, and other places around the world are successful, have little or no crime, make more than the average person, are better educated, etc....
Unfortunately the same cannot be said of pakistanis living in England
Madrassah's? How come most of you irritable types on here, who love to generalise and stereotype always make such stupid assumptions? I have never been to a madrassah, I am educated and raised in the UK, although I respect madrassah's who teach real Islam. The jihadi ones I don't really respect at all.
Just because some people in the UK stated that they understood WHY the July bombers did what they did doesn't mean they endorse their actions. I might UNDERSTAND why a burglar or a thief does what he does but that doesn NOT mean I agree with his solution to his problems.
How the hell have UK Pakistanis led to a worldwide view of Pakistanis as terrorists? For decades the IRA were bombing UK towns and cities, not everyone assumed all Irish Catholics were terrorists. Only idiots generalise and label whole groups of people. All the 9/11 bombers were of Arab origin. If a small number of UK Pakistanis commit an attrocity like July 7 that doesn't make us all potential terrorists, only to those who have little brainpower and are quick to label others. Sadly that includes some of you Canadian and US 'brothers.'
I wrote that you jumped on bulleshah's bandwagon because I had seen you dismiss all UK Pakistanis as thugs and criminals before in the Salman Rushdie thread, to which I responded. You had no answer then for your views. Now I reply to bulleshah's post and you come up with statistics about UK Pakistani's support of extremism. Firstly, I don't take such statistics at face value, anyone can collect data to support any views they intend to promote. I could do a survey which would show that the majority of UK Pakistanis are peaceful, law abiding citizens-not that the media would promote such honest findings.
In the Salman Rushdie post, extremism was not mentioned, however in your repsonse to me you have bought in the exremist argument although I clearly stated you have generalised as categorised UK Paks as thugs before, when extremism was not mentioned. It seems to me you are leaping from one reason to another to look down on UK Pakistanis. Carry on, good luck to you, but don't think that nobody will respond or stay quiet forever, I'm surprised others haven't taken you to task for the views you express. I don't come here often and haven't been a member for long or I would've pointed it out before.
You really need to stop assuming and generalising, it's like when bulleshah stated that my friends and family must consider terrorists shaheed-how the hell would he know that? It wasn't true anyway. With these preporsterous assumptions you just reveal how limited your thinking is and most likely your young age.
Again, I'll state that there are a number of well educated, successful UK Pakistanis. There are criminals amongst us, but I recognise the reasons for that. I wont just judge them and disown them like you guys seem to do so often with all of us UK Pakistanis. I am disgusted by some of the younger generations's actions but I know that they will always be connected to me. Some people mistakenly think that by being successful they can leave parts of their community behind. That is wishful thinking. White people will always classify you as a Pakistani no matter what your passport says or where you were born.
Don't ever say that UK Pakistanis all fall under one umbrella, every community is diverse, there are bad elements in all nations and cultural groups.
LOL at all US, Canadian and Australian Pakistanis being successful. The UK has had a Pakistani population for a lot longer than the countries you mentioned. I hope Pakistanis in those other countries never fall into the traps that some of us fell into in the UK, but over time you will see that there are bad apples in all communities.
Interesting that it took you a good few days to reply.
I am not trying to antagonise you, remember you are the one, along with certain others, who has consistently bad mouthed UK Pakistanis. HSKhan replied to a thread I made about UK Sikhs spreading malicious lies with his statement that UK Pakistanis are a bunch of rapists anyway-LOL that shows the mentality of some of you guys.