Muslims and alcohol

[mama_ki_dua]

@UZ

MKD at least kisi cheez se to bach rahein hain Other than that I see most of people eat haraam beef,chicken and drink alcohol but don’t eat pork.Well I myself don’t know the reason.

hahahahaha bas isi ki kasar reh gayi thi

@firenze

Conclusion:

1. Nowhere does God forbid alcohol in the Quran.
2. Allah informs us that Salat is not to be approached while intoxicated. This nullifies the haram argument in its infancy.
3. Allah tells us heaven will have rivers of alcohol as well as milk and honey. This again nullifies the haram argument as no pig or blood or any other haram elements are made available.
4. The verse used most to outlaw alcohol speaks of the devil and that he should be avoided (not the alcohol).
5. Cleary alcohol is not forbidden in Islam and the only restriction found in the Quran is to avoid making Salat if intoxicated..

If that’s the case then why are we told to stay away from it since a young age?

@Reha

MKD I think people refrain from eating pork because of the negativity and disgust surrounding the animal while we were growing up. Everyone considers it gross and so we grow up thinking it is. Non-Muslims arent raised with that thinking and find it delicious.

With alcohol, its forbidden but not considered disgusting…generally speaking of course. Things that are simply forbidden but dont really gross out the mind are tempting…out of curiosity people might try it out and like it. With pork, its a little different.

Ive smelled alcohol…it stinks like fungus.

Thanks Reha you’re one of the few people who answered my question

@CM

The question is why does it matter? If they drink that is their business. Why should you all get involved in the matter and have a fit?

I hope you read my post clearly I read someone’s thread and the question popped up. Hence, I am just curious to find out.

Thanks

[mama_ki_dua]

@Sheeda_Pistol

I used to know an uncle who would eat only halal/zibah gosht but with that he would drink Black Label. It had to be that or he wont even visit your place

[mama_ki_dua]

@X2

i get more concerned with muslims who pray 5 times a day and then loot, cheat, kill, wait thats extreme, those who are not kind, not paying any attention to haqooq al ibaad, those who forget things like kindness, compassion and respect.

the bloke who is having a few brews is not positioning himself as some super muslim to begin with, his incorrect actions impact only him, and maybe a few around him who can get influenced by his thoughts and approach.

The characters I mentioned earlier, they are the ones who cause real trouble..and there are many of them around

True but almost every single person is guilty of such conduct. Back biting, inciting hatred are also such traits that cause a lot of trouble and many of such people can be found everywhere.
I know people who have been for Hajj and Umrah numerous of times who have been heavily involved in breaking peoples marriages off just because their own daughters went sent back home.

[firenze]

@mama_ki_dua

If that’s the case then why are we told to stay away from it since a young age?

if you starting to brainwash a person from a age of 5, he will definitely blow himself at 16 years of age.

[mama_ki_dua]

Re: Muslims and alcohol

:aq: This still doesn’t answer my question

[LP]

Re: Muslims and alcohol

anything taught is brainwashing?
can we say you r brainwashed to think the opposite and we r brainwashed to think this way?
I am confused abt brainwashing

[kakaballi]

Re: Muslims and alcohol

Hypocrisy. We are the best people at it.

[firenze]

@kakaballi

Hypocrisy. We are the best people at it.

i will rather say, each to their own.

[kakaballi]

@firenze

**Conclusion:
**

1. Nowhere does God forbid alcohol in the Quran.
2. Allah informs us that Salat is not to be approached while intoxicated. This nullifies the haram argument in its infancy.
3. Allah tells us heaven will have rivers of alcohol as well as milk and honey. This again nullifies the haram argument as no pig or blood or any other haram elements are made available.
4. The verse used most to outlaw alcohol speaks of the devil and that he should be avoided (not the alcohol).
5. Cleary alcohol is not forbidden in Islam and the only restriction found in the Quran is to avoid making Salat if intoxicated..

People reading Quran out of context blow themselves up or drown in Heineken.

Quran doesn’t say eating donkey meat is haram. Does this make it halal?

[Cheegum]

Re: Muslims and alcohol

Originally discussed in this thread.

@Cheegum

… its all about desi convenience. People can live without eating pork.. there are tons of alternative permissible foods. Lying, backstabbing, cheating, fornicating etc.. well theres no alternative to that now is there? …

[firenze]

@kakaballi

People reading Quran out of context blow themselves up or drown in Heineken.

Quran doesn’t say eating donkey meat is haram. Does this make it halal?

which school of thought answer you want? coz as far i know, four main sunni schools of thoughts have pretty much different rules

[firenze]

@kakaballi

People reading Quran out of context blow themselves up or drown in Heineken.

Quran doesn’t say eating donkey meat is haram. Does this make it halal?

here you go:
http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/fhalal1.htm

[kakaballi]

@firenze

here you go:
Central-Mosque.com redirector to the new design

Unsupervised googling is injurious to mental health.

Find me where it says in Quran about donkey meat.

[firenze]

@kakaballi

Unsupervised googling is injurious to mental health.

Find me where it says in Quran about donkey meat.

thank you that’s all i was waited for, now back to opening post.
Found a me a verse which said Alcohol is haraam ..

come again !

[kakaballi]

@firenze

thank you that’s all i was waited for, now back to opening post.
Found a me a verse which said Alcohol is haraam ..

come again !

Exactly. If I try to find a verse for every haram thing, I won’t find many. Quran is not explicit about many things, including consumption of alcohol.

We need to go to other sources of Shariah to get guidance about things like alcohol or donkey meat.

Your quoted Ayahs are out of context.

[firenze]

@kakaballi

Exactly. If I try to find a verse for every haram thing, I won’t find many. Quran is not explicit about many things, including consumption of alcohol..

Good God, you said it all.

[kakaballi]

@firenze

Good God, you said it all.

This is exactly why alcohol is Haram. It inhibits ability to think clearly.

[LP]

Re: Muslims and alcohol

The thread is going OFF topic .

Alcohol is Haram or halal can be discussed in a separate thread for it.

[firenze]

@Ashoka

Allah commands the Messenger (saww):

“We know best what they say, and you are not one to compel them; therefore remind him by means of the Quran who fears My Promise.” (50:45)

Alcohol is prohibited in the Hadith by Anas r.a. by the Prophet Muhammad. There are ten group of Alcohol;

1 Distill
2. For whom distilled
3. Drinking
4. Transporting
5. **Buying for Stocking **
6. Serving
7. Selling
8. Utilizes for it
9. Buy for oneself
10.Buy for someone else

if you don’t know, you just make half the Muslim countries + their population destined to hell.

Good one !

[firenze]

@kakaballi

This is exactly why alcohol is Haram**. It inhibits ability to think clearly**.

no “alzam” lagaa-ying please… i just drink cup of coffee from the morning

and it was shaken not stirred