Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

[Hyperactive]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

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** I wish Iran would go ahead and Execute them

Iran and Iranians are punks. Europeans are not reacting harsh enough towards Iran. If Iran kills these 15 soldiers then maybe it will send a jolt to Europe that Iran is a dangerous state which needs to be dealt with.

Iran should execute them as Zionist spies

****I wish Iran would execute all of them

And then let the students rampage in the British embassy and lynch the entire embassy staff...**

and after they were released...

damn, i was hoping they would be executed as zionist spies
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Dang...This guy is a merciless warmonger...He wants war and doesn't care how many people die and get killed as long as he gets his war against Muslims and Muslims die...Wants to wipe Muslims off the face of the earth...

So much for world peace...

[Moonshiner]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

@Hyperactive

Dang...This guy is a merciless warmonger...He wants war and doesn't care how many people die and get killed as long as he gets his war against Muslims and Muslims die...Wants to wipe Muslims off the face of the earth...

So much for world peace...

Since when are Shias, Muslims, according to your ilk? He wants Iranians to die, not Muslims.

[Hyperactive]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

@Moonshiner

Since when are Shias, Muslims, according to your ilk? He wants Iranians to die, not Muslims.

Regardless, Shias are better closer than outright Crusaders and not all ion Iran are Shias...

[Moonshiner]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

@Hyperactive

Regardless, Shias are better closer than outright Crusaders and not all ion Iran are Shias...

I guess they have to be better since they are **closer **targets for suicide attacks by Wahabis.

[Hyperactive]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

@Moonshiner

I guess they have to be better since they are **closer **targets for suicide attacks by Wahabis.

So you too are a 'peacemaker' through bombs...I guess you'd rather have anyone die to achieve peace, especially 'wahabis'...

Well, Wahabi or shababi, all life is precious...Even the stray dogs and cats that US Marines shoot in Iraq to pass the time...Not for you, but for me...

[Moonshiner]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

@Hyperactive

Well, Wahabi or shababi, all life is precious...Even the stray dogs and cats that US Marines shoot in Iraq to pass the time...Not for you, but for me...

All life is precious, I agree, your co-religionists such as Sharabi, probably disagrees, and most likely wishes for the complete genocide of Shias and those he considers non-Muslims, as evident by his posts.

And since you think Shias are better than Crusaders, perhaps you could explain the religious justification of why Shias (kaffir or mushrik, whatever label you give them) are better than Crusaders (Ahle Kitab)

[Sharaabi]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

@Moonshiner

So Jinnah, who was a Shia founded Pakistan, therefore ALL Pakistanis are not Muslims. Thanks for clearing that up Sharabi, you kaffir you!!

Jazakallah.

I feel sorry on your state of mind.

Jazakallah.

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....are better than Crusaders (Ahle Kitab)
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Can you please explain how how you arrived at this wonderful conclusion that modern day Crusaders are Ahle Kitaab? And what kitaab is it, if there is any Kitaab?

[PyariCgudia]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

Salam,

Abu Jahal could be law abiding for all that matters, doesnt' make him credible. Yazeed could be law abiding for all that matters, doesn't mean he can preach islam. Bush can be law abiding, doesn't mean he is the most honest person in the world.

Law-abiding has nothing to do with distortion of one's religion, in this case being watered down so we may please the west.

I can see where you're coming from, but instead we need to see where we have to go.

All your examples are actually not law-abiding. If by law we mean Divine Law as perscribed in the Quran. In terms of the law of the land, Bush and Yazeed definitely changed laws to suit their own needs, which shows complete disrespect of law, so bad examples. Abu-Jahal: I don't know enough details of his life and I don't think its all documented anyway, so it would be retarded for me to assume that I know everything that happened in 600 A.D. (unlike yourself apparently). Therefore, if we don't have proof that he never got in trouble with the law and respected it thoroughly even where it didn't suit him personally, then its not even a good example. Interestingly, your assumptions that you know so much about Islamic history where there are clear gaps in the history screams of the same ignorance of Abu Jahal, an intellectual arrogance to not examine things openly and not be open-minded about the information you receive.

Law-abiding has a great deal to do with your character. The person who doesn't even have the decency to follow basic humanitarian and decent laws, WHY would you want anyone to follow those people?

The scholars I speak of know much more about Islam than probably you do, and they don't desire to see peoples' blood being spilled, including those of non-muslims. The kinds of things you run around speaking about on these forums is nothing but hatred-type messages targeting any westerner, quite in line with violent tendencies. I suggest you seek therapy.

[psyah]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

All your examples are actually not law-abiding. If by law we mean Divine Law as perscribed in the Quran. Law-abiding has a great deal to do with your character. The person who doesn't even have the decency to follow basic humanitarian and decent laws, WHY would you want anyone to follow those people?

The scholars I speak of know much more about Islam than probably you do, and they desire to see peoples' blood being spilled, including those of non-muslims. The kinds of things you run around speaking about on these forums is nothing but hatred-type messages targeting any westerner, quite in line with violent tendencies. I suggest you seek therapy.

Peace PyariCgudia

Abu Jahl used to be charitable, he used to free slaves and have camels slaughtered on celebrations.

The main thing he did to earn himself his notorious title was to be an active voice opposing the mission of Muhammad (SAW).

It is actually quite possible to be law-abiding without being humanitarian and without a basic sense of decency, because law is not judging the inwardness of the person. Whether it is Shari'ah or secular law it can only be applied on the outward. In normal day to day speak 'law-abiding' refers to following the rules, but it does not extend necessarily to mean 'law-loving' or 'decent'. That is the angle from bro. Cresent_'s post.

[PyariCgudia]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

Again, you site some examples of what he did. Obviously, if he believed so much in good things, he'd have followed the Prophet's example. He obviously didn't. He sure didn't respect any concept of letting someone speak out, because he was very opposed to the Prophet and if I remember correctly, he wasn't very nice about it either. So, lets get our facts straight and stop assuming we know everything about a person's life history when its not even fully recorded. Unless you happen to have met him in some bogus psychotic episode, then its a different story.

[psyah]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

Again, you site some examples of what he did. Obviously, if he believed so much in good things, he'd have followed the Prophet's example. He obviously didn't. He sure didn't respect any concept of letting someone speak out, because he was very opposed to the Prophet and if I remember correctly, he wasn't very nice about it either. So, lets get our facts straight and stop assuming we know everything about a person's life history when its not even fully recorded. Unless you happen to have met him in some bogus psychotic episode, then its a different story.

Peace sister

That's really funny ... stand up comedy is truly your forte!

[PyariCgudia]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

Put a sock in it.

[Moonshiner]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

I feel sorry on your state of mind.

Jazakallah.

Not as much as I feel sorry for yours, you kaffir you.

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Can you please explain how how you arrived at this wonderful conclusion that modern day Crusaders are Ahle Kitaab? And what kitaab is it, if there is any Kitaab?
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If any idiot believes in modern day Crusaders in the first place, then he truly is a mental midget.

[Crescent]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

Salam,

All your examples are actually not law-abiding.

What do you call law abiding then? If these people were angels according to you?

I don't know enough details of his life

Then why comment on it? If you dont know anything, its best to not say anything :)

and I** don't think its all documented anyway**, so it would be retarded for me to assume that I know everything that happened in 600 A.D.

Please, the world doesn't revolve around you. It doesn't matter what you THINK, objectivity matters more, and you definitely need to be more objective than I think this, and I think that. Discuss things properly, thank you.

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your assumptions that you know so much about Islamic history where there are clear gaps in the history screams of the same ignorance of Abu Jahal, an intellectual arrogance to not examine things openly and not be open-minded about the information you receive.
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Really, I cant recall where I said I know so much about Islamic history, care to quote me on that?

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The scholars I speak of know much more about Islam than probably you do, and they don't desire to see peoples' blood being spilled, including those of non-muslims. The kinds of things you run around speaking about on these forums is nothing but hatred-type messages targeting any westerner, quite in line with violent tendencies. I suggest you seek therapy
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Right, can you name these scholars?
And again, you wanna back up your claim where I said such things?

Tip: Objectivity.
Hint: Backup your claims.

Hope you learn something and next time dont make a fool out of yourself.

[Crescent]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

One more thing, Reading up your islamic history may help ALOT.

[mercenary2k]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

One more thing, Reading up your islamic history may help ALOT.

I think she has a through understanding

Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are uneducated

[Crescent]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

I think she has a through understanding

Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are uneducated

Actually thats the notion she seems to carry as evident of her posts:

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your assumptions that you know so much about Islamic history where there are clear gaps in the history screams of the same ignorance of Abu Jahal, an intellectual arrogance to not examine things openly and not be open-minded about the information you receive.

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Secondly,
its not even about disagreement, its about claims which rely heavily on "I think this" and "I think that".

Thus, the advice.

[Seminole]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

Outside of the Quran which Muslims accept as God's words, everything else is "I think". Generally if someone has a disagreement with what someone "thinks", they counter it. Not attack them for thinking.

[Ali_R]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

Outside of the Quran which Muslims accept as God's words, everything else is "I think". Generally if someone has a disagreement with what someone "thinks", they counter it. Not attack them for thinking.

Seminole, If you had paid some attention in the other thread to my post regarding Hindu believe. You would have state this here again.
We have other sources, on what we don't need to re-phrase and quote It as "I think". S. Bukhari Hadiths is one of them.

[PyariCgudia]

Re: Muslim Blood - Cheap Commodity by Yvonne Ridley

Salam,

What do you call law abiding then? If these people were angels according to you?

Then why comment on it? If you dont know anything, its best to not say anything :)

Please, the world doesn't revolve around you. It doesn't matter what you THINK, objectivity matters more, and you definitely need to be more objective than I think this, and I think that. Discuss things properly, thank you.

Really, I cant recall where I said I know so much about Islamic history, care to quote me on that?

Right, can you name these scholars? And again, you wanna back up your claim where I said such things?

Tip: Objectivity. Hint: Backup your claims.

Hope you learn something and next time dont make a fool out of yourself.

Actually you need to be backing up your comments. I've defended mine pretty well, I think, and if still isn't clear to you that you have NO REASON to be insulting people who are actively involved in educating people about Islam, which is something I'm sure your lazy behind knows nothing about, then you are beyond hope.

I'd like for you to defend WHY its okay to insult people who are delivering messages of peace? They have no criminal record. They have not caused harm to anyone as per documentation. Why would you INSULT someone like that? There was a big drama made in one of the political threads about not insulting anyone; I wonder why people like you find it OK to label people with derogatory names when they're not in your camp, but you'd be the first to cry bloody murder if anyone were to use negative remarks about your Taleban??