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** And if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphan­girls, then marry (other) women of your choice, two or three, or four but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one or (the captives and the slaves) that your right hands possess. That is nearer to prevent you from doing injustice.**

My thinking is that Allah put it up to the man to decide if he could treat them justly. Afridi, i agree when you say happily because of course it's impossible to love multiple people in equal terms, the best example is of Rasulallah, he had some older wives, some younger ones, did he "love" them all equally? who knows. were they all satisfied and treated justly? most definetly.

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Why don't you post these so called verses with their tafseer if you are truthful.

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Why is it always the women who are against multiple marriages? Oh yeah, cuz they are not thinking in terms of fact, they are biased on this topic and are going on immature emotions.

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Why do you think the Quran says Marriage is a way to prevent sin, what sins do you think that refers to?

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Marriage is so much more than a way to prevent sin. I think that is a subsidary reason, and I can't imagine the value of any marriage that is based on "Oh well, I was scared that I'd rape her, so I'm just going to marry her instead". I feel sorry for the girl that marries such a pig.

The verses are pretty clear - I believe they are in Sura Nisa in the passages that discuss marriage. There is a line that clearly commands not to marry based on lust. I don't even think there needs to be any further interpretation on that verse. Please look it up yourself, since you seem to be so highly educated on the deen.

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both persons have to be willing so its womens decision as well. children is another major reason for marriage.

can u give me a basic outline of the verse, i cant recall it from the top of my head.

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its more than just equal treatment.....regarless of his financial independence I dont think I could ever allow my hubby to have a second wife. that's just me i couldn't share my man with ne1 !!

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i never said that it means he loves his first wife any less. I agree that a man has a right to have children among other things while married. Therefore if im unable to provide for him in any way. Then divorce IS permissible in Islam. He is more then free to leave me. I rather be divorced then share his love with anyone.

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I'd divorce him.

I've been brought up2 believe that the man does have to ask the first wife's permission, and that he should only marry if he can treat both wives equally. That, today, is more or less imposible: one is always favourite!

Another point: why would a woman marry a man who is already married? I wouldn't want it done to me, and thus I would not do it another sister.

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There are other reasons why men would want another wife. It has nothing to do with the first wife being unable to satisfy him. I bet 90% of men can't even satisfy their wives.

Most men like variety. They like to try different flavors lol. Personally i'm cool with one. But for other men, it's better to get married again than to commit adultery.

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Exactly and they have the nerve to say their wives dont satisfy them :hehe:

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There are reasons besides lust to get married a second, third, or fourth time. Personally, I would never do it, but I do respect the people who have done it for valid purposes.

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very good point. i agree with it as well.

however Id like to point out one thing to the posters of this thread....just like it's impossible for an ordinary man to marry more then one wife and treat them equally according to Islam...it's also impossible for an ordinary woman to truly be accepting of her husband taking on another wife. Which means chaos at the homefront!! Also it's unadvisable to marry more then one wife according to Islam.
(4:2,3) Give unto orphans their wealth, exchange not the good for the bad (in your management thereof) nor absorb their wealth. Lo! That would be a great sin. And if ye fear that ye will not deal fairly by the orphans, marry of the women who seem good to you, two or three or four; and if ye fear that ye cannot do justice (to so many) then one (only) or (the captives) that your right hand possess. Thus it is more likely that ye will not do injustice.

"You will never be able to be fair and just among women (wives)...." Qur’an (4:129)

Our beloved Prophet (SAW) was a special man who was able to treat his wives equally and kept them ALL happy. In turn his wives were special women who were very strong minded and were able to handle such a situation.

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Maybe Allah made it halal to TEST what men would do. as you know this life is a test and people are put in situation to see if they'll pass or fail a test....and unfortunately alot of people MESS up and fail these tests. and this one seems like a really hard test.

P.S. the guys who talk about marrying more than once (i.e. it being halal)....are usually the ones who are totally unislamic in their behaviour and do the most haram things possible....and when it suits them (i.e. having more than one wife)...then they start chatting about what Islam says. Islam says alot of other things apart from this issue too. do you follow all of the other teachings of Islam?

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exactly!

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ALL of the women that i know whose husbands have more than one wife....are UNHAPPY. their wives are unhappy with the situation and dont love the husband as they would if he only had one wife.

if wives are unhappy and sad about the situation.....the guy hasnt fulfilled his responsibilities.....and thats wrong in Islam too.

so can anyone give me just ONE example...of a woman whose husband has more than one wife and shes happy with it? I personalyl dont know of any cases....and neither do people i know

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only our beloved Prophet Muhammed (SAW) and there was one other man after that...i cant recall his name (someone plz refresh my memory).

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these kinds of men are sick and perverted.