Re: MQM demands Karachi to be handed over to the Army
.Nope ...it is .... MQM....criminalized the youth of this city ...and made that criminalization a matter of pride for them ....
..the city is reaping what it has sown ....
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MQM never conducts criminal activities - namaloom afraad do.
MQM is the biggest stake holder of the city but has no responsibility for the law and order of the city they claim to represent.
MQM has never been part of Sindh government and last but not least MQM's has never had a governor in the province.
Re: MQM demands Karachi to be handed over to the Army
.Nope ...it is .... MQM....criminalized the youth of this city ...and made that criminalization a matter of pride for them ....
..the city is reaping what it has sown ....
Well, that medal goes to jamat, at least for getting the ball rolling. MQM just turned out to be the bigger don like zardari ki corruption sab pay bhaari.
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MQM is the biggest stake holder of the city but has no responsibility for the law and order of the city they claim to represent.
MQM represents Karachi's majority hence the biggest stake holder. But MQM does not control any law enforcement agency. They all come under interior ministry of Sindh government.
THAT is the biggest problem facing Karachi. It is being run by Larkana instead of its own representatives.
You have to admit that MQM is not responsible for current situation. If it was the cause of all this then MQM would not have demanded an army operation in the city.
EVERYONE knows this. So continuing to blame and abuse MQM alone shows that a person is no friend of the city.
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Karachi situation getting out of control, bring in the boots!
ANP lends support to MQM’s call for army deployment in Karachi
The Awami National Party (ANP)’s reiteration of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM)’s demand to hand over Karachi to the armed forces due to the increasing incidents of extortion, kidnapping and killing of traders is likely to generate trouble for the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP)-led Sindh government.
Five more killings in the city’s violence-stricken Lyari area during pitched battles overnight prompted the ANP Pakhtun Action Committee (PAC) Chairman Senator Shahi Syed to second MQM’s demand of deploying troops in Karachi, saying there was a need for conducting a Swat or Malakand-like army operation in the metropolis to get rid of terrorist hideouts and to make Karachi a city of trade and education.
“We do not indulge in number scoring games and we have previously passed a resolution in the Sindh Assembly to make Karachi arms-free,” Syed said.
He said instead of criticising the demand for army intervention, the federal and provincial government should take practical steps to improve law and order in the country’s financial hub.
**SINDH TRADERS THREATEN TO GO ON STRIKE:
**Traders in Sindh have also threatened to go on strike for an indefinite time due to the increasing incidents of extortion, targeted killings, and kidnapping for ransom, saying it is due to the failure of the Sindh government in eliminating criminals.
The Sindh Tajir Ittehad (STI) staged a protest demonstration outside the Karachi Press Club.
Speaking on the occasion,** STI Chairman Jameel Paracha** said that the traders had decided to question the Sindh Assembly in its coming session over its failure to restore of peace in the city.
He said the STI had started a movement for protection of the city’s traders, which would continue till the traders were provided security.
He said that STI was contacting traders all over the country for a one-day complete shutter-down from Karachi to Khyber.
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julab lag gaye hayn “bhai log” ko 
MQM is not giving up any arms or legs, they just want Lyari, TTP, ST, ANP to be de-armed so MQM can slap them whenever they want.
You need to watch videos of how MQM representatives respond in media whenever they are questioned on live TV, besides that MQM has thrashed these outlets in the past, burnt their papers, ransacked their offices… oh wait, it was na-maloom afraad who did all that.
MQM is the seed, ANP, TTP, ST, PAC are all the fruits.
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You need to watch videos of how MQM representatives respond in media whenever they are questioned on live TV, besides that MQM has thrashed these outlets in the past, burnt their papers, ransacked their offices.... oh wait, it was na-maloom afraad who did all that.
It is very typical of Pakistani politics. I think you have not looked at many more TV programs where MQM spokesmen have been asked ALL kinds of questions. For example, MQM got so annoyed by one anchor that it threatened legal action against him.
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MQM is the seed, ANP, TTP, ST, PAC are all the fruits.
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Jamaat and PPP are the seeds. It was Jamaatis who brought weapons in educational institutes. APMSO learned from it. And the first incidents of racial killings happened in 60s 86 in Karachi when Urdu speaking people were attacked by Ayyub Khan's goons. It again happened in mid and late 80s when Urdu speaking people were massacred in hundreds. That is when MQM turned to picking up arms as a policy.
Now get back to the topic. I am not going to discuss it any further. You are only trying to turn it into another MQM bashing thread. Very typical.
Do you really think MQM is the cause of current situation in the city?
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Do you really think MQM is the cause of current situation in the city?
Ignoring rest of speech, MQM is part of problem, not the only cause of problem.
Re: MQM demands Karachi to be handed over to the Army
.Nope ...it is .... MQM....criminalized the youth of this city ...and made that criminalization a matter of pride for them .... ..the city is reaping what it has sown ....
Then why are traders accusing Sindh government for it? Why is ANP supporting MQM's call?
Are you living on Mars? Or is it just hatred of Karachi?
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Ignoring rest of speech, MQM is part of problem, not the only cause of problem.
If MQM is "part of problem" then why did it demand action from army?
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If MQM is "part of problem" then why did it demand action from army?
Because it is losing control/dominance in many areas, isn't it simple? MQM believes they can create political pressure enough to get its activists released while others can get arrested.
Re: MQM demands Karachi to be handed over to the Army
..the current situation has its roots in the past....
..when MQM as a policy .... Criminalized its cadre ... what the traders are doing or asking does not absolves MQM .... rather they are just careful in not naming anyone....else they know the consequences .... and MQM as usual wants point scoring ....
..Lashoon ki siyasat ki buniyad MQM ney dali hey ....or yeh Tareekhi haqeeqat hey.....
Re: MQM demands Karachi to be handed over to the Army
... and then khoji wonders why many think that he is MQM's spokesperson? All this thread needs is Spock and it will go to troll heaven!
Re: MQM demands Karachi to be handed over to the Army
MQM never conducts criminal activities - namaloom afraad do.
MQM is the biggest stake holder of the city but has no responsibility for the law and order of the city they claim to represent.
MQM has never been part of Sindh government and last but not least MQM's has never had a governor in the province.
all answers correct, you qualify for rabita committee membership
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i'm no MQM fan, but blah blah blah blah, typical posts in MQM related threads
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I’m not MQM supporter, but I don’t love to hate Altaf Hussain. my 50 paisa. 
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Karachi operation on cards, but who has all the aces - thenews.com.pk
**ISLAMABAD: The MQM seemed obviously trapped in its own rhetoric. It first sought army operation in Karachi invoking Article 245 of the Constitution but now wanted army to be called in aid of the civilians.
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There was definitely some confusion in the MQM demand. The Rangers were already deployed “in aid of the civilians” in Karachi. The invocation of Article 245’s section 3 entailed handing over control to army after suspension of fundamental rights—a virtual Martial Law.
**Obviously, the MQM wanted a selective army operation of its own choice. The crux was: the federal government should simply bypass the provincial government and ask the MQM Governor to supervise the army operation against, ideally, the so-called Peace Committee in Lyari and ANP ‘goons’ in Pashtoon areas.
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Dr Farooq Sattar cried himself hoarse protesting over rockets being fired on its people and its workers being targeted. “The Rangers and police have simply failed to maintain peace,” he shouted throttling his lungs to the fullest. And then led the MQM contingent, wearing black arm bands, to a token walkout.
But the PML-N was in no mood to grant the MQM its ideal wish. Chaudhary Nisar said “Yes” to the surgical operation. But make no mistake, he clarified, the team captain of any operation in Karachi will be Sindh chief minister. Secondly, the PML-N will not order any surgical operation without building a consensus.
It seemed the PML-N got the opportunity to do what it had been itching to do for over a decade, along with every other party—sort out you know who. Nisar did not miss the chance to score even with the MQM by defending the Rangers. “You can’t say that Rangers failed in Karachi; it’s the same force that you did not have a problem with for over 10 years in power; why has it become so incompetent in three months.”
The General, he said without specifying which one, had assured him that he could cleanse Karachi in weeks if specific operation is ordered with well-defined parameters. The Prime Minister will decide the parameters in a special cabinet meeting in Karachi after hearing all parties, including respected journalists and citizens. “But everything will be done in accordance with the Constitution and through the Sindh Government that holds the electoral mandate,” he re-emphasised while seeking help from other parties. He was not disappointed.
One party after another offered support to the PML-N on this. Naveed Qamar said the PPP had no objection as long as the Sindh Government was involved. The Jamaat-i-Islami and JUI were equally supportive. ANP’s Ameer Haider Hoti went a step further by saying that his party would not protect a criminal using its name.
**But then this was a common concern: let no party cry foul if its members are found involved in crime. Such was the consensus that it was difficult to say ‘no’—even by those who knew that the noose was coming their way. In fact, it was funny that the political parties notorious for extortion and gun-running in Karachi were the loudest in thumping desks. Chor machai shor, as they say in Urdu.
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**The reasons for the MQM paranoia are obvious. **
The London trial is taking its toll; the party is going through internal power wrangling at a time when it is excluded from the power structure in Karachi as well as Islamabad. The MQM stands isolated from most political parties that feel betrayed at one time or another—not to forget its insecurity after PTI inroads in Karachi. Another motivation for the latest brouhaha is also the wooing of Kutchi voters in Lyari. But the PML-N insiders believe that the threat to life of senior MQM leadership was the real issue. The Interior Ministry is believed to have shared intelligence report of a possible attack on Dr Farooq Sattar, Nabeel Gavol and Faisal Sabzwari. Whatever the reason, Farooq Bhai was seen rubbing shoulders with Nisar showing him the same intelligence reports. Now, we don’t know whether the threat is from the rivals parties, criminals, Taliban or internal Bhai log. But we know that this has the top MQM leadership extremely nervous and most of them do not sleep in their houses. Also, this has convinced everybody for a cleansing operation.
It was a win-win situation for the PML-N. The credit for bringing peace to Karachi will come to the PML-N, if the things go well. This will also help improve the growth rate and investment. The discredit for its failure will, of course, rest with the MQM who asked for the army rule or for the PPP which will implement the operation.
And if things really turn out of control, the PML-N will still have the trump card of imposing the governor’s rule. After all, the PPP did that at a much smaller pretext in Punjab—but not necessarily under the same governor.
However, Nisar seemed a little over-confident in his powers to control the Rangers and the FC. He almost ridiculed Sindh Chief Minister Qaim Ali Shah for saying that the Rangers were not under his control. He said he took the Rangers DG along to satisfy the Sindh CM. It’s easier said than done, goes the saying. Perhaps the politicians in Punjab have never had to deal with the Rangers in civilian jobs. Incidentally, a similar statement was issued by the PML-N allies in Balochistan also.
Dr Malik Baloch, too, has expressed his helplessness to control the ‘kill and dump’ policy. Why can’t Nisar take the DGFC in Balochistan along to re-assure Dr Malik. Or perhaps he should first give the blueprint for his road map for internal security for every province to follow. It’s not a question of what it says in the letter. It’s the spirit that matters in the end. Bhai Log will find it out soon.
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**Two things these hard core criminals who destroyed Karachi want
Military should act against all the parties except MQM because they are representative of Middul Class Educated (Hard Core Criminals)
Governor rule so that PPP government elected by 75% of Sindh should go to hell. Again in Governor rule they can easily usurp the rights of majority of people of Sindh as usual.**
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Whatever MQM or AH did or doing is same old story repeating time by time!! This political move of MQM give them quite fresh breaths in this crucial moments as business community totally on same page, other hand this call gives a huge pressure to ppp govt as a Latkti hoi Governor Raj ki talwar. The ball is now in ppp court and how fast and quick they restor the law and order situation which is the base of this movement.
Can you see what criminal thoughts have you put in to words?
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**Two things these hard core criminals who destroyed Karachi want
Military should act against all the parties except MQM because they are representative of Middul Class Educated (Hard Core Criminals)
Governor rule so that PPP government elected by 75% of Sindh should go to hell. Again in Governor rule they can easily usurp the rights of majority of people of Sindh as usual.**
What about a military operation under governor rule?