Re: MQM backs ANP proposal to change Pakistan's name
I just read in Jang that Farooq Sattar has denied making any proposal to change Pakistan's name.
SHAME ON LIARS.
Re: MQM backs ANP proposal to change Pakistan's name
Their only four country in the world which name themselve as Islamic Republic.
lol seems like zia took your chaddi away that you are stating him in you r every post :D
dont worry you will get it back now just file you complain at bilawal houe
on serious note... no I have net been raise at zia era and I will say again one person cant make the country!
LOL
Zia ne sab ki chaddian utari hain :D: aur Taliban ko de deen theen LOL
not in balwal house correction
You keep on saying that Pakistan was achieved in the name of Islam but where is your proof. Just because you say it does not make it so. Please provide prove and please do not only say from punjab prespective. please include Bengali, Sindhi, Baluchi, Pathan and Aga Khanis in the creation of Pakistan.
Have i not given you Proof in the Previous Post , do you really have that short memory , Well let me post it again , it will be 3rd time now , & please Stop making useless excuses when you have no Proof , you haven't answered any questions raised by me , & yet you say you are right , come out of your western dream word & see the Reality
Here you go again , now Read it 10times daily may be you will get through your mind this time.
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we did not demanded Pakistan just for the sake of a piece of land. Instead, we wanted to obtain such a laboratory, where we can adopt the Principles of Islam.
(MA Jinnah,13th of January 1948,Islamia College Peshawar)
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You keep on quoting these ambiguous words. Did he want Pakistan to be an experimental state (he used word laboratory) where all kinds of non-senses to be tested right from "Basic Democracy" to "Majlise Shura" type governments, avoiding Democracy? Well you are reaping what you sowed (experiments) in past, divulging from his real intent of Pakistan being a secular and democratic state. Unless you guys clear this in your mind, this country who suffered tragic breakup in 1971, where "Do Nazria" drowned in the Bay of Bengal, left majority of Pakistanis to make a new country called Bengla Desh. If not changed your faulty mind set, history of 1971 can repeat again.
And yes one friendly reminder, please avoid personal remarks. Will you?
You keep on quoting these ambiguous words. Did he want Pakistan to be an experimental state (he used word laboratory) where all kinds of non-senses to be tested right from "Basic Democracy" to "Majlise Shura" type governments, avoiding Democracy? Well you are reaping what you sowed (experiments) in past, divulging from his real intent of Pakistan being a secular and democratic state. Unless you guys clear this in your mind, this country who suffered tragic breakup in 1971, where "Do Nazria" drowned in the Bay of Bengal, left majority of Pakistanis to make a new country called Bengla Desh. If not changed your faulty mind set, history of 1971 can repeat again.
And yes one friendly reminder, please avoid personal remarks. Will you?
Here you go again , You keep slipping from the point of this thread again & again , own Discussion point is that did Quaid obtained Pakistan in the Name of Islam or Not Right ? , I gave you his own quote that yes we did , Unfortunately you haven't provided my with a single evidence where Jinnah said that we did not obtained this for Islam , you keep closing your eye thinking it will change the reality , but unfortunately it will not .
And Yes One more thing Please Give me a single clue bcoz i am unable to understand it that how come Bengal Incident of 1971 has a link to creation of Pakistan in 1947 , As i said earlier please don't waste your & mine time will the repetitive posts with same useless & baseless facts
Thanks
Have i not given you Proof in the Previous Post , do you really have that short memory , Well let me post it again , it will be 3rd time now , & please Stop making useless excuses when you have no Proof , you haven't answered any questions raised by me , & yet you say you are right , come out of your western dream word & see the Reality
Here you go again , now Read it 10times daily may be you will get through your mind this time.
Yes, when Mohammad Ali Jinnah said Islam he meant Shia Imami Ismailies not sunni Islam.
Yes, when Mohammad Ali Jinnah said Islam he meant Shia Imami Ismailies not sunni Islam.
please give me proof , otherwise dont waste my time,
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And Yes One more thing Please Give me a single clue bcoz i am unable to understand it that how come Bengal Incident of 1971 has a link to creation of Pakistan in 1947 , As i said earlier please don't waste your & mine time will the repetitive posts with same useless & baseless facts
I think there is communication gap. What do you mean by Quaid’s Islam? Had he implemented any such Islamic rule while he was alive for more than one year after separation? What kind of Islamic Government do you think could have been installed based on generic and vague statements on Islam by Quaid?
Bengalis gave 100% votes in creation of Pakistan. They were more vocal then any other community. Separation was based on Islam according to you, then why Bengalis left Islam of Pakistan? Do you have any clue or you keep on rhetoric of Islam and Islam?
That is the major issue here. You are trumpeting connection of Islam with Quaid in every post of yours and you should know that in Islam, personal life of any leader is the most important part of running an Islamic state. Do I have to give you sermon on that? Or you are mature and intelligent enough to understand that?
I think there is communication gap. What do you mean by Quaid’s Islam? Had he implemented any such Islamic rule while he was alive for more than one year after separation? What kind of Islamic Government do you think could have been installed based on generic and vague statements on Islam by Quaid?
Bengalis gave 100% votes in creation of Pakistan. They were more vocal then any other community. Separation was based on Islam according to you, then why Bengalis left Islam of Pakistan? Do you have any clue or you keep on rhetoric of Islam and Islam?
Where did i said Quaid's Islam , please tell me , if i said i am bound to explain it , and i i did not then stop using your own imaginations, Giving an interview to an American Reported in Feb 1948 Quaid said.
" Constitution of Pakistan will be be made by the Constitutional Assembly of Pakistan , i dont know what it will look like but i am sure it will be based on the Principles f Islam"
Jinnah , February 2 1948
And here you go again with you messed up logic , i asked you question that what is the Relation of an event that occur 24 years after creation of Pakistan with the Fact that Pakistan was obtained in the Name of Islam , And insted of Answering my Question you again Repeated your question , that is Y i said please stop posting these Useless & baseless fasts .
But Let me answer you one more thing , Do you really think that Partition of Bengal was Result of conflict between Religion , if you think so i don't know what to say , i said again i will say it again & i am sure in future if it continues if will have to say it gain , Learn your History , before you Speak of it
You are telling me do i have any proofs that was Pakistan obtained in the name of Islam or not , i gave i guess 2 of them but in the Return you failed to Provide even a single one if it & yet you tell me d o i have Proof , I told you to show me even 1 statement of Jinnah which states that Pakistan was not Obtained in the Name of Islam , but i seems the only thing you have shown me are the personal made Western coated Lies .
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That is the major issue here. You are trumpeting connection of Islam with Quaid in every post of yours and you should know that in Islam, personal life of any leader is the most important part of running an Islamic state. Do I have to give you sermon on that? Or you are mature and intelligent enough to understand that?
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Instead of Running away face the facts , you don't have any right to interfere in the Personal life of anyone or do you , What is he did or what he did not in his Personal life is something belongs to Jinnah only you me & anyone have no Right to question it , Yes if that Personal life would have effected the Cause of Pakistan then you could have questioned it , but it is not the case here.
So i will say it again , Provide some facts , and have a meaning full Conversation instead of Wasting my time by just copy pasting your posts.
You kept on manufacturing your own fantasies. I did not ask you any proof. What kind of Islamic Government do you have in your brain that Quaid was telling you? Don't beat about the bush.
You kept on manufacturing your own fantasies. I did not ask you any proof. What kind of Islamic Government do you have in your brain that Quaid was telling you? Don't beat about the bush.
Kid is this your best answer of my above posts , or do you want to make a pole here to clarify your self that which one of us is making our own fantasies , I gave you Proof not of my own but the words of Jinnah himself , but it seems you are unable to beack your own claims & are now trying ti run away.
Well if this was your best answer , i Believe you have nothing left to say , which makes me victorious, And Proves teh statement that Pakistan was obtained in the Name of Islam.
And yes Next time When you think of challenging me , please be sure to have some grounds to back your baseless accusations, bcoz i dont have time to waste .
Don’t waste your time in Archives they can be misleading
here is something worth reading, please read section 7
and then there is another one you might wanna read
Constitution of Pakistan: Facts, Discussion Forum, and Encyclopedia Article
fter nine years of efforts, Pakistan was successful in framing a constitution in 1956. The Constituent Assembly adopted it on 29 February, 1956, and it was enforced on 23 March, 1956, proclaiming Pakistan to be an Islamic RepublicIslamic republic
Islamic Republic is the name given to several states in the Muslim world including the Islamic Republics of Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan and Mauritania…
. The Constitution was lengthy and detailed; it contained 234 articles divided into thirteen parts and six schedules. The Constitution of 1956 provided for federal system with the principle of parity between East PakistanEast Pakistan
East Pakistan was a former Provinces of Pakistan of Pakistan which existed between 1955 and 1971. East Pakistan was created from Bengal Province based on a plebiscite in what was then British Raj in 1947…
and West PakistanWest Pakistan
West Pakistan was the popular and sometimes official name of the western wing of Pakistan until 1971, when the East Pakistan became independent as Bangladesh…
. The Federal Legislature was to perform like the British Parliament. The Centre was invested with such powers as to take unilateral action in emergency and it could influence the provincial autonomy.
do you want more???
Re: MQM backs ANP proposal to change Pakistan's name
^ but I cannot find any inconsistency between what you have have dug out and what the text of constitution says in the Archives. confused
^ but I cannot find any inconsistency between what you have have dug out and what the text of constitution says in the Archives. confused
My Focus is Islamic Republic of Pakistan the name mentioned clearly.. because there are plenty out here who will say THE NAME IS NOT THERE!!!
Re: MQM backs ANP proposal to change Pakistan's name
^ yar, its also there in the Archives text.
^ yar, its also there in the Archives text.
So it is!!!