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What about the accounts of Sudras getting melted lead in their ears, if by chance they heard any verse from vedas? What are the basis of such allegations?
Provide me religious sanction from our holy books. Do you have links to such events happening or is it just hearsay? If id did those people are just as heartless, immoral and cruel like the taliban terrorists of today whom we condemn.
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^Wasent his government in present day Karnataka? If if its Kerala Muslim population there is 24 %.
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Provide me religious sanction from our holy books. Do you have links to such events happening or is it just hearsay? If id did those people are just as heartless, immoral and cruel like the taliban terrorists of today whom we condemn.
Where did these taleban come from in the first place? Who trained them? Who were Tamil Tigers?
seriously do you think that taleban can force someone to become a Muslim. They can only push away from Islam, you can never impose your faith by force.
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Provide me religious sanction from our holy books. Do you have links to such events happening or is it just hearsay? If id did those people are just as heartless, immoral and cruel like the taliban terrorists of today whom we condemn.
My question say what are the basis of such allegations?
when I asked about historical myths, some of the posters (probably Southie Uncle) told me that Casteism in Hinduism is a myth. But again we heard and read in many books that casteism was rooted deep in society that lower castes could not go to temples or could not worship a particular diety. We still hear some biases about chhoot chaat (dharm bharsht) incidents which say there was some basis. Muslims of Pakistan, who migrated and opted for Pakistan say that they were called mallechh (untouchables) and even there were separate Hindu Pani-Muslim Pani on railway stations.
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Provide me religious sanction from our holy books. Do you have links to such events happening or is it just hearsay? If id did those people are just as heartless, immoral and cruel like the taliban terrorists of today whom we condemn.
So you haven't heard or seen any dalit persecution..come on man....:D
They still have there colonies outside of village...let go old days even in current day there is issue of untouchables....
hope you know about Mahatma Gandhi's fight for untouchables
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^ my relatives who have gone through the times tell me that the Muslims were treated worse in india as compared to the untouchables.
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Once I met an Indian Muslim from Gujarat, according to him there was a lot of discrimination in India on their castes especially during job selection process. And that even the localities of different castes are different, eg a person of a lowercaste cannot live in areas occupied by Brahmans. In Pakistan there might be discrimination in rural areas, but if some one gets money somehow he can live in defence or other posh areas if he wants to. The caste system that's prevelant in Pakistan is due to living side by side with hindus for thousands of years, and would only go away with the passage of time.
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oh one such gujrati backed off from renting a flat …when he came to know that one of the occupant will be a muslim…
And that occupant was my brother…
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What is to say that they did not ?
I had a friend form a different cultural community in college who would trace their ancestry back to Gandhara . They believe they migrated to other parts of India to escape persecution centuries ago. They add gandhara to their caste name. I am not sure how factual this is but it is a part of their community history. Maybe the kaur can shed some light on it since the migrants supposedly settled in the north.
What about the exodus of Hindus from Kashmir ? It is not a new phenomenon. These types of exodus existed where ever muslims formed a sizable majority .
Kashmiris first settled in Konkan regions along the coasts of Maharashtra, Karnataka and northern Kerala over centuries following the merciless killing of Kashmiri Pandits during the Shaikh, Shah, Mughal and Afghan era. There are a number of communities in Konkan region who consider themselves to be Kashmiri diaspora, including the Konkan Saraswat Brahmins, Goud Saraswat Brahmin and Chitrapur Saraswat Brahmins.
Kashmiri diaspora - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Many hindus fled into neighbouring states during the Malbar rebellion when muslims rampaged upon their neighbours to support the Kilafat movement and declared that region as Khilafat kingdoms.
This is what the zamorin the ruler of Malabar had to say about it :
*“That the conference views with indignation and sorrow the attempts made at various quarters by interested parties to ignore or minimise the crimes committed by the rebels such as: brutally dishonouring women, flaying people alive, wholesale slaughter of men, women and children, burning alive entire families, forcibly converting people in thousands and slaying those who refused to get converted, throwing half dead people into wells and leaving the victims to struggle for escape till finally released from their suffering by death, burning a great many and looting practically all Hindu and Christian houses in the disturbed areas in which even Moplah women and children took part and robbed women of even the garments on their bodies, in short reducing the whole non-Muslim population to abject destitution, cruelly insulting the religious sentiments of the Hindus by desecrating and destroying numerous temples in the disturbed areas, killing cows within the temple precincts putting their entrails on the holy image and hanging skulls on the walls and the roofs.”
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As for Sri Lanka, the Tamil hindus fled back to India to escape the lankan persecution. 
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^Wasent his government in present day Karnataka? If if its Kerala Muslim population there is 24 %.
He did this pious duty when he attacked Kerala. There is enough info out there to prove it.
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The Manusmriti decreed that if a dalit were to recite the Vedas, his tongue must be cut off, if he dared to listen to a recitation of the Vedas, molten metal be poured into his ears. Mythology tells us that Shambuk had his head cut off for daring to recite the Vedas. Ekalavya’s teacher demanded his thumb. Education, for dalits in the age of Manu, was punishable with humiliating mutilation – then death.
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during Dogra rule on Kashmir, many Muslims migrated to Punjab and worked as cheap labor. They were called ‘Hato’. Many died on way due to severe weather
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So you haven't heard or seen any dalit persecution..come on man....:D
They still have there colonies outside of village...let go old days even in current day there is issue of untouchables....
hope you know about Mahatma Gandhi's fight for untouchables
To say there is no caste based discrimination is a big lie. What is a bigger lie is to say that it is sanctioned by religion.
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during Dogra rule on Kashmir, many Muslims migrated to Punjab and worked as cheap labor. They were called 'Hato'. Many died on way due to severe weather
That is wrong and unfortunate. U asked for hindus migrating and I provided it.
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Eklawaya was a low caste, but he got his named mentioned in MahaBharata 
Who was Manusmriti?
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BTW ISlam does not sanction spread of islam with force…
But here what we are discussing is not what religion says but behavior of followers…
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Calypsodc, what's the relevance of Kashmiri pandits to the discussion, when the exodus happened there was a war going on there and these things are a bye product. Same thing we can see in Pakistani balochistan where non balochs are being killed, and forced out of the province as somehow the settlers are considered to be agents of their perceived enemies, although the religion of both parties is the same.
As far as your previous analogy of taleban is concerned, who are the taleban persecuting in Afghanistan and Pakistan? Think again!
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To say there is no caste based discrimination is a big lie. What is a bigger lie is to say that it is sanctioned by religion.
So where from this casteism originated in Indian society after all ?
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Manusmriti is a book somewhat like hindu coded law…
you should read about it..it was burnt by B.R.Ambedkar
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He did this pious duty when he attacked Kerala. There is enough info out there to prove it.
Majority is still Hindu.