Most Persecuted Religions in History

Every religion is most respected for its followers. There is no issue if you follow your religion and let others follow their own. Problem arises when followers of one religion develop the perception that all the religions (Other than the religion they follow) are false and try to impose truthfulness of their faith on others. This lead to wars and persecutions, human history is full of.

What in your opinion is the most persecuted religion (from the existing faiths)?

What are the reasons which triggered such persecutions? Is it due to internal weakness (like economic / social weaknesses) of the followers or most of the time external parties were in position to impose their faith with force?

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Hinduism and buddhism. Even today, I hear what missionaries and some muslims spew about my religion even today. Maybe 1000 years of suppression has given the followers a little patience- not much. Surprisingly no other religion seems to have a problem with Hinduism currently. The reason for such persecutions in the Islamic invader horde followed by the mini inquisition of the Portuguese in their strongholds of Goa. Unlike Europe, India before the invasions was an economic and educational super power with a very lax military. The invasions put india back into the dark ages from which she never fully recovered.

Will Durant, the famous historian summed it up like this:
"The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex of order and freedom, culture and peace, can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within."

From his book" The story of civilization", On the fall of India to the Moghuls: "The bitter lesson that may be drawn from this tragedy is that eternal vigilance is the price of civilization. A nation must love peace, but keep its powder dry."

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Jews

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What about Native Americans esp Incas?
The long term effects of the arrival of the Spanish on the population of South America were catastrophic. While this is the case for every group of Native-Americans that encountered Europeans from the fifteenth century onwards, the Incan population suffered a dramatic and quick decline following contact. It is estimated that parts of the empire, notably the Central Andes, suffered a population decline ratio of 58:1 during the years of 1520–1571.

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Zoroastrians of Iran have long been persecuted in their country

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Peace muqawwee123

I highlighted a part in bold above … I don’t agree with it :bummer: This is the argument that atheists use to justify abandoning religion. But the truth is that religion is NEVER the cause of war. Religion is often the vehicle of rallying support for war. Yes … but it is never the cause.

And religions can’t be persecuted - but what I gather you mean here is “which denomination’s adherents are persecuted the most?” I have left it with the term “denomination” to allow racial, sub-religion and political group distinctions …

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I find that most persecutions are done by the main opponent of that specific group.

In other words Turks and Kurds are the same in the eyes of Pakistanis for example. However amongst themselves they are quite conflicted. Kurds are a racial group of people who constitute minorities in several countries. Some of them are Shi'a and others are Sunni.

Then sometimes there is a more sophisticated form of persecution - which is called exploitation ... Rather than beating the 'annoying counterpart' in to submission, many states opt to subdue them into 'servitude' and denigrate their class - providing them fewer opportunities for equality.

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My point was also the same. I didn’t say that religions leads to war. Its the followers of the religions who wage wars on others just to prove superiority and truthfulness of their faiths to others.

I also know that religions can’t be imposed by force on long term basis. :slight_smile:

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That needs a little explanation to prove the point :)

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Are there any examples where a religious group (sub-group) was suppressed / exploited due to their religious connections?

One more question that is also relevant here is why minority sects in a religion (be it Qadiyani, Agha Khani / Ismaili) are normally more resourceful than the majority. Do persecutions lead to actions which guarantee stability in long run?

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Agree, but they are still most powerful minorities in Indo-Pak

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So the reason behind Hindu persecution lies in their peace loving nature. What about the internal wars between the states at the time of Muslim and other invasions? Like when Babar came to India, he was supported by Rana Sanga. If we analyse Ghauri / Ghaznavi raids, I think we may trace some internal support to them from inside India.

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Hindus and Sikhs have been persecuted by Muslim rulers for all of India's history.

Zoroastrians in Iran too...

Jews have been persecuted by Muslims and Nazis.

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You see I don't think this happens ... I think there are material reasons for war.

1) Land required
2) Resources required
3) Economy based on War
4) For the Glory

In Islam the reason for war is:

5) To establish justice /to end oppression

According to what you have written there is another basis for war ... that being ... to show supremacy of their faith

Does that really happen?

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Hindus and Jews have not been persecuted by Muslims, but I can accept the others cases.

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Persecution of Hindus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hindus have been historically persecuted during Islamic rule of theIndian subcontinent and during the Goa Inquisition. In modern times, Hindus in the Muslim-majority regions of Kashmir, Pakistan and Bangladeshhave also suffered persecution.

Persecution of Jews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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According to Mark R. Cohen, during the rise of Islam, the first encounters between Muslims and Jews resulted in persecution when Muhammad expelled or killed the Jewish tribes of Medina. He adds that this encounter was an exception rather than a rule.[SUP][7]](Persecution of Jews - Wikipedia)[/SUP]
Traditionally Jews living in Muslim lands, known as dhimmis, were allowed to practice their religion and to administer their internal affairs but subject to certain conditions.[SUP][8]](Persecution of Jews - Wikipedia)[/SUP] They had to pay the jizya (a per capita tax imposed on free adult non-Muslim males) to Muslims.[SUP][9]](Persecution of Jews - Wikipedia)[/SUP] Dhimmis had an inferior status under Islamic rule. They had several social and legaldisabilities such as prohibitions against bearing arms or giving testimony in courts in cases involving Muslims.[SUP][10]](Persecution of Jews - Wikipedia)[/SUP] Contrary to popular belief, the Quran did not allow Muslims to force Jews to wear distinctive clothing. Obadyah the Proselyte reported in 1100 A.D, that the Caliph had created this rule himself:
The Caliph of Baghdad, al-Muqtadi [1075-1094], had given power to his vizier, Abu Shuja, [who] imposed that each male Jew should wear a yellow badge on his headgear. This was one distinctive sign on the head and the other was on the neck- a piece of lead of the weight of a silver dinar hanging round the neck of every Jew and inscribed with the word dhimmi to signify that the Jew had to pay poll-tax. Jews also had to wear girdles round their waists. Abu Shuja further imposed two signs on Jewish women. They had to wear a black and a red shoe, and each woman had to have a small brass bell on her neck or shoe, which would tinkle and thus announce the separation of Jewish from Gentile [Muslim] women. He assigned cruel Muslim men to spy upon Jewish women, in order to oppress them with all kinds of curses, humiliation, and spite. The Gentile population used to mock all the Jews, and the mob and their children used to beat up the Jews in all the streets of Baghdad. When a Jew died, who had not paid up the poll-tax [jizya] to the full and was in debt for a small or large amount, the Gentiles did not permit burial until the poll-tax was paid. If the deceased left nothing of value, the Gentiles demanded that other Jews should, with their own money, meet the debt owed by the deceased in poll-tax; otherwise they [threatened] they would burn the body. (Scheiber, A. “The Origins of Obadyah, the Norman Proselyte” Journal of Jewish Studies (Oxford), Vol. 5, 1954, p. 37.)
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^ Its like the muslims were the only invaders in the subcontinent, from the most reliable source that you have provided. What about the invasions between 500 BC to 1000 AD? Were they very peaceful?

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I was responding specifically to this quote from psyah -

And I agree with your point about non-Muslim invasions. But to the best of my knowledge, there was little (if any) religious persecution then.

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The invaders came , looted, settled and integrated into society but were brutal. But in the case of muslim invasions, there was religious persecution an element that was not common to the subcontinent along with the looting and of course no integration with local cultures and religions. Instead people were "encouraged" to adopt the beliefs of the oppressors and in many cases massacred when they refused. The looting was not just economic but also spiritual in nature. The scale of killing that had been documented has not been done with the other invasions. That is why it is believed to be worse. Like I mentioned in my last post, India was an economic and educational powerhouse. You can deny that many scientific and mathematical texts were translated into various languages. India was famous for its mathematicians. Bhaskara, Varahamihira, Aryabhata,Brahmagupta, sridhara etc all flourished between 5th-11th century AD. Most of them had royal patronages to promote scientific thought and learning. The barbaric muslim invasions killed many learned men and scientists along with destroying houses of learning and it has been chronicled.
After the entry of Mughals, they ruled a large part of India, but finished off the education system and brought India into the dark ages. At the same time, the south which was not under mughal influence continued to produce more mathematicians and other other scientists. There was also a school of mathematics in Kerala established by Madhava one of the best scientists medieval India ever produced.

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I am not saying that India was Utopia on earth before muslim invasions. There were internal squabbles and trustbreaking etc. But it had not seen armies that were motivated by both money and religion. Influence of Buddhism had made people work towards economics and education instead of the art of warfare. India had not previously seen the scale of massacres that occured then. Taking of slaves was not an Indian custom and was one of the most horrifying things to happen to the subcontinent. That does not mean there were no traitors who tried to use the invaders for their benefit. They paid for it later but that is another issue.
As for Rana Sangha, I was trying to find out about his support for babur and could only find that he was betrayed.
Rana Sanga - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Can you point me in the right direction ?
Vijay Dev of Jammu helped Ghori attack Ghaznavi who was holding Lahore.
Which Indian king helped Mohammed Ghazni ?:confused: