The purpose of this thread was to show us how the child was so attached to her father YET this horrible white WOMAN came to Pakistan and wrenched her away from her loving FATHER.
Another man versus woman thread.
I like your mind reading abilities a lot........i really do. Perhaps you should join the psi-ops or something.....
I don't know what to say...an 11 year old child is going to be very confused about who she is...where she belongs and who loves her more: the woman who fought for her or the man who kidnapped her. She got caught between their battle.
now why did you bother with replying and saying the above part????
Also, really, her father kidnapped her? Kidnapping is such a horrific word and associating it with kid's own biological father is nothing but yellow journalism that only western media can paint.
Somehow when Betty Mehmoody did that, American media presented her as a hero, made a movie on her. When a pakistani father did that, he is a kidnapper.
The reporting on this was extremely one sided. Everyone conveniently forgot it was the father who was in the wrong for taking her to Pakistan. I saw Mujeeb-u-Rehman Shami harp on about the islamic perspective and how the child should be listened to without mentioning anything about how the father broke laws.
I agree with queer. A lot of these guys only remember islam when they end up with a child from a gori.
Also, really, her father kidnapped her? Kidnapping is such a horrific word and associating it with kid's own biological father is nothing but yellow journalism that only western media can paint.
Somehow when Betty Mehmoody did that, American media presented her as a hero, made a movie on her. When a pakistani father did that, he is a kidnapper.
Awesome>
Western media is messed up and glorifies anything to push their agenda. However, you can't deny that what the father did was wrong and the court was trying to make it right. It is sad that so much time had passed and that the child is being affected by a poor decision of the father.
Western media is messed up and glorifies anything to push their agenda. However, you can't deny that what the father did was wrong and the court was trying to make it right. It is sad that so much time had passed and that the child is being affected by a poor decision of the father.
I agree, but how do we know that it was just father who made the poor decision? How do we know that mother (at the time when father came back to Pakistan with his daughter) was not being a great mother?
because the court wouldn't have given custody back if he could prove the mom wasn't a good parent. the trial is over, he's lucky he's not going to jail.
Well if she wasn't being a great mother, he should've gone through the proper channel to get custody. I'm sure the courts would listen to him if he could demonstrate that the mother wasn't fit to look after the girl.
I disagree. The 11 year old is a product the upbringing the father and his family gave her. The words coming out of her mouth…kids don’t say things like that on their own…especially about their own mother UNLESS adults around her make those type of comments. Just like in many other custody battles, I’m sure the father and his family has told her repeatedly what a bad person her mother is and God knows what else.
Judging by her reaction…the girl has never heard anything positive about her mother from the father or his family. Its also obvious the family did not prepare her for the possibility of her having to live with her mother (in terms of assuring her that if the mother won custody…the girl would be well taken care of and will be safe). The girl is scared at the thought of having to live with a woman who has been portrayed so negatively by the people who raised her. And since the father is in the hospital…none of the other family members bothered to calm/support her during the “transfer”(the grandfather prefers to talk about the child being raised as a Muslim to the reporters while the child is screaming that her mother is a kutti…) …throw in all the cameras/reporters…it’s not surprising that the girl is scared out of her mind.
because the court wouldn't have given custody back if he could prove the mom wasn't a good parent. the trial is over, he's lucky he's not going to jail.
Oh the court decsion. Off course, how could we forget that.
Can I refer back to Betty Mehmoody's example who flee Iran with her daughter because court ruling was that daughter needs to stay with father? How many courts sent Betty to jail?
Well if she wasn't being a great mother, he should've gone through the proper channel to get custody. I'm sure the courts would listen to him if he could demonstrate that the mother wasn't fit to look after the girl.
CG, you know the cultural differences. If mother was bringing boyfriends in the house, a french court would never see it as being careless motherhood. But you and me would not tolerate that, would we?
Point is, court decision is based on facts & laws and it might be ok. But calling father a kidnapper is something that boils my blood. I am a father of daughters too and I know that I could die for them but never even think of getting them close to being a victim of a crime, especially something as horrific as kidnapping
courts make mistakes. does that mean every decision the court made is a mistake? pal, the law is in place, its doing its job. you are being like, OMGZ show me proof she was a good mom.
as for kidnapper - just because you are a dad does not mean you can do whatever you like with your kid - he/she has another parent you have to share him/her with. if you have serious differences, take it to court, get it done the way it is supposed to in a civilized society.
Also, really, her father kidnapped her? Kidnapping is such a horrific word and associating it with kid's own biological father is nothing but yellow journalism that only western media can paint.
Somehow when Betty Mehmoody did that, American media presented her as a hero, made a movie on her. When a pakistani father did that, he is a kidnapper.
i hope the feminazi thickness has subsided.......and the question i raised gets answered.......... the whole shebang about fatehr kidnapping or not was discussed to death in previous two threads...
what i wanted to discuss was the effect on the child.....without going into the right/wrong of what father did or the mother did.........
due to the circumstances, the child did end up staying with the father........... and now being removed suddenly and taken to the mother ,albeit perfectly legal, must have some effects.... the point i wanted to raise posting the video.......
legal battles do get won and lost.......but the point to discuss was, whether it would be ideal for a child to be removed like that??