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While not being able to refute the argument, it helps to make motherhood statements and not understand reality.
Re: Modi's party concedes Bihar elections
I have a relative who is from Ahmedabad. Once a Muslim student came to her home for tutoring. The neighborhood watchdogs stopped by and told my cousin - you are respected member of this community. Please don't let Mohammedans in your home.
It is widely know Muslims in Bombay have hard time owning flats
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It is widely know Muslims in Bombay have hard time owning flats
sirf apke manane se?
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Some months ago, whole media was flashing a breaking news of a Muslim woman claiming that she was denied a flat on religious grounds but investigation revealed that her claim was tatally false, till that time media including Lord Goswami earned so much TRP so they neither apologised nor displayed the reality just like rohtat sisters case in which two sister beated a man accusing eve teasing but reality was different. Read Misbah Qadri case. Many muslim families were already living at that apartment. She didn't have requisite documents therefore played victim card but tv media like ndtv never displayed truth. And half baked information is dangerous.
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sirf apke manane se?
Bringing up individual instances where someone may have falsely claimed religious bias does not negate the truth. And it is not because I said so.
Of course there are muslims who do own flats. That doesn't negate the fact there exists bias. If anyone denies that, it reflects naiveté or willful ignorance.
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Way back in the 80s Tawana Bradley an African American woman falsely accused some whites in her new York City neighborhood of assaulting her. It turned out too be false. But that didn't negate the fact during those days such incidents did happen, initiated by racial prejudice.
Housing societies in Bombay are known to exclude muslim families from ownership
By the way, if I recall the Qadri case was re renting and not ownership. Re specifics of the case, the building owner does state he or she doesn't have issues with muslims. But that this may be broker specific issue.
Regardless, throwing in exceptions does not mean discrimination based on religion does not widely exist.
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When the Tawana hoax happened several folks with a agenda used this hoax as an example such incidents don't happen.
Enough said.
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The Hindu is a reputed paper. Here is a link
In Mumbai, a ?no rent, no sale? policy : The Hindu - Mobile edition
Of course so is Dawn News.
But those on the right won’t like such papers for they speak the truth.
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Was there food at the party...."FOOOODD"
Hindu Muslim...any food........
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yes, It is widely know Hindus in Bombay have hard time owning flats 'coz some hindus are non-vegitarian. No flats for non-vegitarians. It is truth and those who deny it are ignorant. It is widely know unmarried in Bombay have hard time owning flats. Actually It is widely know human beings in Bombay have hard time owning flats. It is unfailing truth.
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@Southie read once again what you wrote. Musalmano ko (mumbai me) makan khareedne/kiraye pe lene pe dikkat hoti hai. Apki bat me kitni dam h ye to Quadri case se zahir h. Some of my Muslim friends and seniors work there in TCS, ONGC, RELIENCE, Mott McDonalds, Jacobs engg, some purchased houses. unhe koi dikkat ni hui, wo b Muslim hi hn. Kuchh (kuchh ka matlab sirf kuch hi hai) singles ko, nonvegitarian, students ko kiraye pe nahi dete isase ap maan bethenge ki singles, students, non-veggies ko mumbai me flat lene me dikkat hoti hai. Aur non-vegitarian agar Muslim hua toh mamla dharmik ho gaya bhai. Jab flat lene me dikkat hoti h toh kuchh posh areas me flat bahut mushqil se milte hn waha toh koi Muslim milega hi nahi, hai na truth.
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@Southie mujhe dilli me kuchhek brokers ne unmarried hone k karan mana kar diya. Ek sikh ne mana kiya, koi Muslim hoga. Ab me halla karunga, phr media karegi jb tak asal bat samne ayegi tab tak kuchh logo ke liye truth ho gaya hoga. Jara sochiye TCS, Infosys jsi companies hazaro ki tadat me graduates hire karti hn, kai Muslim b hote hn, sabko dikkat hoti h kya religion k karan jaisa ap kah rahe hn k Muslims ko dikkat hoti h. Aisa jaroori hai kya, truth h kya. Agar ye truth hai toh ye sirf apke liye hoga. Apka ye truth (read bharam) mere kai Muslim dost phone pe door kar denge. Baat karna chahenge?
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Re specifics of the case, the building owner does state he or she doesn't have issues with muslims. But that this may be broker specific issue.
Regardless, throwing in exceptions does not mean discrimination based on religion does not widely exist.
The same broker earlier provided flat to a Muslim girl with her Hindu friends and another flat to a Muslim male in the same apartment. Widely exist.. Ab shayad apka apna sentence 'Muslims in Bombay' se 'many Muslims in Bombay have..' karein, phr sambhavna h ki aap 'some Muslims in Bombay..' karenge.
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But those on the right won't like such papers for they speak the truth.
ye atal satya ka gyan kaha se hua? I read The Hindu daily, I am not leftist or rightist and please tell me what made you believe that Rights don't read or like such paper. Is this one of your truths?
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Bringing up individual instances where someone may have falsely claimed religious bias does not negate the truth. And it is not because I said so.
Of course there are muslims who do own flats. That doesn't negate the fact there exists bias. If anyone denies that, it reflects naiveté or willful ignorance.
maine aisa toh kahi kaha hi nahi k religious bias nahi hote, religious hi kya gender bias, lingual bias, regional bias bhi hote hn samaj me. Par iska matlb ye katai nahi k poori Mumbai me hote ho aur harek k sath hoN aisa bhi nahi k jyadatar logo ke sath hota ho.
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The same broker earlier provided flat to a Muslim girl with her Hindu friends and another flat to a Muslim male in the same apartment. Widely exist.. Ab shayad apka apna sentence 'Muslims in Bombay' se 'many Muslims in Bombay have..' karein, phr sambhavna h ki aap 'some Muslims in Bombay..' karenge.
I dont get your point. As I clearly stated the fact that one or a few Muslims may have lied about discrimination does not negate that fact that several muslims in Mumbai are discriminated against wrt housing
Respectfully, I would add that any person with common sense and an ounce of honesty woukd have understood that when I stated "muslims in Bombay are discriminated against wrt ownib flats " I didn't imply there are NO muslims in Bombay who own a flat.
It it pleases you , my original post may he read as intended. Which is - several muslims in Bombay ......"
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maine aisa toh kahi kaha hi nahi k religious bias nahi hote, religious hi kya gender bias, lingual bias, regional bias bhi hote hn samaj me. Par iska matlb ye katai nahi k poori Mumbai me hote ho aur harek k sath hoN aisa bhi nahi k jyadatar logo ke sath hota ho.
Again I detect a serious lack of common sense here. Of course I did not mean har ek ke sath hoti hai. This should have been obvious.
In any event , my post meant to state - several muslims are discriminated against in mumbai. Hence flitting individual instances of false discrimination claims is irrelevant.
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@Southie mere kahne ka matlb ye tha, wo tha..yah toh hona hi tha..Muslims have hard time..isi tarah ka sentence hai..Muslims (say Hindus or Christians) face discrimination..chaliye ap kahte hn several Muslims matlb kai Muslims..isi tarah several (kai) Hindus, dalits, christians, students, singles k sath bhedbhav hota hai. ab kai Muslism ya Hindu terrorist hn to ap bina soche samjhe ek general statement bana lenge kya ki Muslims or Hindus are terrorists? Sadharan sa sawal hai. ek general statement ka matlb bahutayat, jyadatar, majority of Muslims se hai toh ap koi authentic data bata dijiye jo apki bat me ratti bhar bhi dam hai, sabit kare. jisme Mumbai me kiraye pe rahne wale Muslim, flat khareedne wale aur jinke sath bhedbhav hua. Dono ka ratio ho.
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Again I detect a serious lack of common sense here.
haha..you realize it now... I came to that conclusion in the 'motherhood' post.
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haha..you realize it now... I came to that conclusion in the 'motherhood' post.
What is the motherhood post?