Re: Moderation
Yes but you have to establish what is it you are free to do, or rather what is it you cannot do. In God's system, emphasis is placed on family and family values, so anything breaking that element down is not allowed (including polygomy). Other than that, there is no compulsion in religion.
Well in a state Allahs rules are applied and as a Muslim you have to obey them...the system is clear enough...your individual freedoms are your mubah permissbale issues and your mandoob recommended actions...there are certain things which are obligatory such as paying your zakat and then there is haram the impermissable which say limit your individual freedoms...so for instance a Muslim stealing for instance...its a fairly clear setup to me...
I believe the Quran is very direct about homosexuality and that it is wrong...
Ok im intrigued now...are you saying the Quran is wrong?...cos if your Muslim then id be careful that you dont delve into shirk...if your a Muslim and believe the Quran to be the word of God then you should take everything in it to be correct and yeah as you quoted they have three days to repent otherwsie the punishment is death...now as a Muslim thats what the creator said so you should believe that...Allah knows better than man...but obviously in a Western society where the emphasis is on individual freedoms of a consensual nature backward behaviour like homosexuality can be justified...lol using that same logic someone can justify sleeping with their mother...now would you say thats wrong?...they are both consenting adults?...
Seems ok to me... there is no compulsion here either according to the Quran.
When you say soicety is a group of individuals then you allow deviance in your society based on backward definitions of harm...i mean you can legalise prostituion using this viewpoint as it is individuals consenting...Islam however would see this is damaging to society and would forbid it not to protect individuals but to protect society as whole...
Adultry is a crime in that someone does get hurt through this action. A spouse/parent/child cheated upon is a crime in my books and that is how Allah sees it too IMO. Cheating someone is harming and as such adultry is to be punished if proven. Also, a muslim society and God's system also depends on family structure and families become unstable or break down in presence of adultry. According to the Quran, the punishment is 100 lashes, and not death by stoning.
Adultery however is not a crime in Western society...if i cheated on my wife i wouldnt go to jail even though i have caused her mental harm through my actions...Islam hoowever does deal with the issue as you outline...
If they claim to be muslim they should at least fear their Maker and get married. I mean comeon, having children?
Im talking about an actual brother and sister having sex with each other and justifying this incestuous relationship by saying its their individual freedom as consenting adults to do so...in France and some places incest is actually legal already based on this viewpoint...
Actually there is both, individual rights and duties to society. Society cannot compell but an indivual (muslim) has to contribute to the system... I mean he/she has submitted to the Message of God and submission is not partial.
Actually the West encourages no duty to society...you are an individual and your role is to seek as much pleasure as you can in your only life...selfishness and individualsim are inherent of such a system...
Islam gives you your individual rights but tells Muslims that their basis for living is to worship Allah and Allah alone and therefore they will contribute to society as this will please Allah...also the idea that Allah is omnipotent and all seeing is enough of a deterrant to not commit crime or atleast confess to it...
In the West as long as you dont get caught you have got away with it...In Islam Allah is always watching you so you know you will never get away with any crime you commit...
A much superior system but that is expected when you are dealing with the system of your creator...comparing it to syste,s devised by fallible people like you an i bear no comparison*...*
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