Moderate Muslims

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Yes regular moderate Muslims, the one in majority, not some mullah loving preacher who is standing there and preaching hate and killing of others in the name of religion. not the type that wraps a bomb to himself and blows up a mosque or other fellow Muslims or even non Muslims.

if you guys so strongly believe in jihad and calling terrorists freedom fighters, then why is it that you haven't joined there jihad yet, think about it you will get to meet your creator and wont have to live in this world full of Jews and non Muslims, oh and don't forget the 70 virgins, whom you can do what you choose to. because here your desires are tied cause they are promised to you in after life, wow.

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I'm sorry, I dont agree with stu, i dont know if its just me but I can't stand by while our Prophet gets insulted, if the cartoons were incidental, then fine, but when they are purposely printed to produce riots and deaths, then the producers shud be ready to face the consequences...there r more anti-islam books, movies, etc. than any other religion, and this was before 9-11, there is a limit to what a person can take, i think u wud agree, however I do think its unfortunate that we fell into the trap that those people set for us.

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do you know what Mohammad looked like?

and yes they were wrong to publish those cartoons, but everyday in Muslim countries there are cartoons against Jews and Christians and other religions. i don't see you standing up for those people and condemning the publishers of those cartoons.

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Relax, dont start insulting islam, u r doing the same thing that u want to be stopped, preaching hate and killing others (non-combatants) is definitely wrong, i agree, blowing up mosques, killing non muslims, wrong, definitly, dont worry they'll get what they deserve.
There is a difference between terrorists and freedom fighters and true jihad, the ones who are terrorists aim to kill innocent people to get their message out, freedom fighters who do real jihad aim only at the soldiers who are in their land and taking over, and oppressing them, that is the difference. Hope you understand. Now with the last part, u r just professing hate, u dont like islam, fine, u think its absurd, fine, but dont start insulting. Just say that you dont think Islam is for you, or that it doesnt seem right, or whatever, alright brother. :)

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No, but its obvious, they meant to insult Islam and our prophet. I think you would agree.

Its very wrong if these kinda cartoons are being published in Muslim countries, since we believe Jews and Christians are people of the book. Insulting them wud be insulting a part of Islam and prophets. Its unfortunate.

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I just started the thread Hijab or halal, i think that oberving purdah, in the correct islamic way, is not being a fanatic or radical however flying those planes into the twin towers and being involved in the al-Qaeda group or supporting their ideology is fanatical. so people please dont see ME as a muslim fanatic

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I don't know her personally.. I am tryin' to explain her something

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Then you are by definition a radical muslim. Fundamentalism breeds this sort of intolerance and insecurity.

Do you think your prophet would’ve given a damn that some negative cartoons were printed about him?

By your logic, Hindus should be able to stab muslims who insult/mock them as idol worshippers, or whatever.

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cressi betta...aisi batein araam and piyaar say batayen jateen hain :) If danny is asking something that he is confused about..instead of jumpin up and down and writtin down all the ayats and hadith ..we need to be patience and try to make him understand in his way. Need lots of patience. Sometimes we can't seem to understand wats written in Quran and hadith. We r no born scholars..it (Islam) requires a lot of deep understandin..and it is hard and difficult for the one who grew up in west and wasn't expose to Islamic part that much.

take is slow and steady :)

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I'm not supporting killing them, just saying when you profess obvious hate, be ready to get some in return.

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^ I feel sorry for your current or future children

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Stu, Afridi is right.. I do not consider Hinduism and others to be complete religion. Only Islam is the true religion in the literal sense- other religions are just public phenomena. Can you explain me why people are lost, confused and without purpose in non-muslim countries?

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Think about it...KKK hates Black People, Black People hate KKK, catch my point.

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Yeah kinda like how christians love zionists to the extent that they want 2/3 of them to perish at armageddon and the remaining third to convert to Christianity...And the Jews love them back so that they can contiune to control them and use their money, resource, weapons and manpower to subjugate whoever happens to be in their way...

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I agree, the kind of hate and intolerance that radical muslims espouse is no different than the KKK or the Black Panthers (a radical black organization).

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I’d laugh out loud at that one guava, but my jewish master is subjugating me at this particular moment.

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lol, what?!? Reread what I said before, u'll understand the point i was making.

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use protection :slight_smile:

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isnt that what Islam and being muslim is all about? this is the def of being muslim.

the opposite of this would be called "terrorists"

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Islam does not tell you to hate everyone that disagrees with you, and I think that's one feature that sets apart radical muslims from moderate ones. Moderate muslims are secure in their faith enough that they don't get dramatic and violent when someone speaks against Islam or does something to villify Islam. You cannot force people to believe what you believe, and that's a basic Islamic belief.

You also cannot use violence to prove your point, nor can you punish people for any wrong-doing unless directed otherwise (ex. death penalties assigned by the Quran, etc like death penalty for murderers). You cannot take the law into your own hands. You're not proving anything by that.

I agree with Stu's points.