Misbah Ul Haq speaking and criticizing after the loss

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As they say about a batsman.... form is temporary and class is permanent :)... what about 2013 average for Misbah? Pakistan played 34 ODIs in 2013 and he averaged higher, Pakistan played 12 ODIs in 2014 so average fell behind. I don't believe anybody here is justifying Fawad's being out of team, everybody is disappointed at team selection.

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We got to see Misbah's real style against Aus when team provided solid platform to him and we saw a new record :)

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Captain Saheb: Actually before Australia match in 2014, Fawad ODI average was around 48, highest ever of any Pakistani batsman. As for Misbah, his ODI average or SR never went higher than Fawad.

Anyhow forget Misbah, he is already history. Even forget Fawad and set selection criteria, that should be based on last 10 match performance, as recent performance matters more.

If Fawad comes in within that criteria than fine, if not than he is out. Actually, even if he qualifies and there are players better than him, than they should play as batsman in National team instead of Fawad.

What I am saying is that, in last few years Pak team is already destroyed. That shows in ODI ranking where Pakistan is behind Aus, NZ, India, SA, SL and England. Many WI players revolted against their management, else Pakistan would have been at the bottom (above BD and Zimb). If Pakistan would keep playing pathetic players who can’t field and drop catches as habit, and keep playing players as batsmen in team whose average hovers around 30 with SR hovering around 70, than time is not far when Pakistan would rank behind BD and Zimb. Situation could become so bad that Pakistan would not even qualify to play World Cups.

Leave top teams (Aus, SA, India and NZ, SL and Eng), for Pakistan to stand in line with world average teams (WI, Zimb and BD), Pakistan have to say ‘NO’ to parchi players and start selecting players purely on merit from domestic cricket whose last 10 innings ‘Ave x SR’ is more than 3600 with minimum SR = 80. Same time, Pakistan has to get rid of players already in team, if their last 5 innings ‘Ave x SR’ falls below 3200 or ‘SR’ falls below 75. There should be no free lunch for players even if they are in team on merit.

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That new record was, when Misbah came at 92 for 2 in 16 overs against SA (score moving at over 5.7 runs an over, Sarfraz just got out at 49 ... and younis playing set), Misbah scored 9 runs in first 29 balls he faced. :) ...

Result, Younis also start playing slow, singles became non-existent, and team got into so much pressure that whole team got out for 222.

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Perfect example there, thanks! :k:

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I think we should confess now,

Misbah was part of international conspiracy, if one investigates, he was installed to destroy everything... it was Misbah who informed rangers about weapons and criminals at 9-0, moreover, had it no Misbah, the same team would have training to play Final on Sunday...

Again we should confess, Misbah was utter mistake of Pakistan and his parents, he should have not been in the team to start with..

Happy @Sa1eem Bhai

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Yea baby..

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Who said about Shehzad ? Sarfraz is already captain of team.

I admire Misbah where he deserve but scoring runs without a good strike and not rotating strike is not a good thing a lot. I am unable to understand that why people get emotional if someone criticise their fav player. immature attitude.

i was giving example of chandar paul who play only for himself. Even he never try to bat from both end and normally took single on 1st ball of the over when No. 10 player play is with but he was leading run scorer of WI so you will consider him legend ?

BTW in test i rank him very high, above of all Pakistani captains but in ODI a big NO

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The real destruction of Pakistan team landed with Salman Butt and ended with him, we are still suffering from the aftermath of that whole sh!t, otherwise there are plenty of other examples from before Misbah era where a deserving player got chances here and there while yaari/dosti/parchi players played a lot more games undeservedly... I believe that is an established fact of Pakistan cricket anyways. Just few posts above I gave an example of Faisal Athar from Hyderabad who was given just ONE frickin ODI after his 60+ average in domestic, and in that one ODI he scored 9 runs and he was thrown away while at same time likes of Imran Farhat haunted us for about 10 years I think.

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and in that game even I criticized him for that performance, you can check the thread :)

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You are writing as if I am against Misbah and do not like him in team, but I am not. I think Misbah is better than most Pakistani batsmen, but in the end, he is not a good ODI players and certainly not a good ODI captain. if that hurts you than it is fine.

Actually, when Misbah became captain in 2011, Pakistan ranking in test was 6th with 94 rating points and was ranked 6th in ODI with 101 rating points. Today, Pakistan is 4th in test with 103 rating points but gone down to rank 7th in ODI with 95 rating points.

So, even though Pakistan improved in test but deteriorated in ODIs … even though most teats and ODI Pakistan played under Misbah was in UAE.

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You know I am a big fan of Fawad and any other player who were eligible to get selected in team but couldn't get the place.

But you can't take the credit from Misbah that he gathered the team when there were no one to lead team. This is probably the weakest team Pakistan ever had. Yes Parchi system should end but evrery captain wants to select his own team. Every strong captain of Pakistan had done this.

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Even thought UAE is not like Pakistan but can u show me a single Pakistani captain who white washed World No. 1 team in tests in home series

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Was it against Eng? and Eng was no 1 at that time, right?

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If anyone think that I do not like Misbah and undermining his performance than read my post. One would realize that I was with Misbah to be part of team same way as I think Fawad should be part of team (not like some people here, whose relationship is not because of performance, but some sort of personal love/hate or prejudice). Here is my post from 2007.

And after Misbah played good innings, but blown the match up in last over, still I appreciated Misbah batting, though obviously, blaming him for his last minute tantrum that caused Pakistan losing matches.

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I am not taking credit from Misbah for anything. I am giving him credit for where Pakistan team is in ODI ranking, state of Pakistani batting line up and fielding, and the way Pakistan is performing at international level.

You yourself mentioned the problem. As you wrote that every Captain wants to select his own team, than if team is weak or do bad than it is fault of Captain (Misbah) too, and he should be blamed for that, right?

Actually, as far as I am concerned, I believe captain should have no say in selection of team, as team belongs to Pakistan, not to Captain. Captain himself is selected as part of team, not owner of team, and thus should play for team and country. Captain should only raise his voice if selection is not on merit, that is all.

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I believe most captains in the past did that including Inzamam, Younis, Afridi and we also saw dramas of PCB how the captains were changed, how the captains resigned or threatened (in public) to resign. Probably it was Misbah's fault that he did not bring those dramas to public for gaining support and get the team he wanted and cause 'captaincy dramas' that Pakistani public is so used to.... we are not used to some sanity and tranquility I guess :(

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I do not think that is true. What I know and believe is that, no Pakistani Captains raised voices on ignoring merit, What they did was, they made some players they like to play in team and others in PCB management did the same, including players they like at the expense of merit. This is happening since long time, but became norm from time Imran became Captain. Only difference was that some Captains had more say and some had less say, that is all.

If Captains wanted that merit should be criteria of selection, than that would have happened, but no Captain went for merit as they themselves wanted to make some players play in national team at the expense of deserving others, hence compromising national team, that obviously PCB management also liked, as they do the same.

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Correct, I did not mean to say the past captains raised their voice/fought for merit, rather players of their choice.

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still nothing out of PCB.........any decisions yet from them for the upcoming Bangladesh tour?