Misbah Ul Haq speaking and criticizing after the loss

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I feel bad for Misbah. He deserves more victories and respect ofcourse. But been unlucky he didnt get good batting lineup who could be consistent with him.

Pakistani team is defintely going to miss Misbah for long time.

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wow as im watching more right now, Misbah really bashed TV anchors and cricketer experts sitting there, hint Shoaib Akhter, Mohammad Yousuf etc, rightly so!

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The rest of us will also miss the stabilizer. The foundation builder. The one who steadied the boat. The dot ball absorber.

Come back, good sir. We need you

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Poorly recorded conversation, except for Misbah lots of questions couldn’t be understood. But very well explained and well spoken by Misbah, he could’ve taken names of idiot “seniors” but he just didn’t want to blame an individual. From his limited capabilities as a batsman I think he produced brilliant innings, saved team from umpteen collapses, guided to many victories. Thank you for your contribution, your critics will know your value few months later :salute:

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He impressively handled the questions and explained his position clearly.

Thanks!

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I have so much respect for Misbah. A true gentleman. When he was captain of the ODI team he never bothered replying to these so called experts who used such filthy language against Misbah and took shots at him left, right, and centre.

Now that he is retired I'm SO happy that he is responding to all the criticism and taking on the idiots who come on TV and bash him for no reason and Misbah is making his point without stooping down to their level and still remained respectful.

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No doubt Misbah is good test batsman. Anyhow, Misbah should know that a players whose SR is 72 can never make a continuous place in any respectable ODI teams. He is lucky to be from Pakistan where people do not know that a player cannot join an ODI team if his Strike rate and batting average is not compatible to ODI matches ... or where other things are important more than cricket playing ability (nepotism, likes, dislikes, rushwat, tasub, parchi, etc).

Misbah batting average (43) is fine, but SR (73) is unacceptable, and worse is that he takes 25 to 30 balls to make his first 10 odd runs, that is pathetic.

Can he answer why player like Fawad whose ODI Ave (45) and SR (75) is better than Misbah was left out of team? Can he answer why he left Sarfraz in Pakistan first 4 world cup ODIs, even when he was the only proper wicket keeper in the team and he also proved himself as opener in 2014, when he opened several innings with Shahzad, making more runs than Shahzad in every inning and at better strike rate? Even in World cup, Sarfraz opened 3 inning with Shahzad and in each of them he scored more runs than Shahzad.

Can Misbah tell us that why Misbah himself (Ave 43, SR 73), Younis Khan (Ave 31, SR 75), Shahzad (Ave 34, SR 72), Harris (Ave 32, SR 76), Hafiz (Ave 31, SR 73) and others were selected in team as batsmen ... but Fawad (Ave 45, SR 75) whose average and SR was better than all playing in Pakistan team as batsmen was left out? … Even in Australia, Fawad ODI Ave and SR was better than all the players I mentioned ... and still he was left out, then we cry about batting and shortage of good batsmen in Pakistan? ... Some said to me that Misbah never liked any player to play for Pakistan who could perform better than him, so if that is true, is that justified?

Everyone accepts that Pakistani fast bowlers as well as spinners are best of world bowlers, so why undermine batting averages of domestic cricket, when they make runs against best of world bowlers?

Even in Australian pitches, let see performance of different Pakistani players (before world cup) who were asked to play in team as batsmen. Misbah’s Test inning record is presented below (though it is easy to score in test than ODI, due to no limit of time or balls), as before world cup Misbah never played ODIs in Australia.

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Innings
Not Out
Runs
Average
Strike Rate

Fawad
3
0
117
39.0
67.24

Misbah
4
1
76
25.33

Hafeez
6
0
75
12.5
47.16

Younis
9
1
147
18.37
55.68

Umar
5
0
187
37.40
71.37

So, raising finger on Misbah has weight, and we should cry about nepotism, mismanagement, likes, dislikes, bribes, recommendations, order to make someone play in team, and so on ... instead of what talent we have in Pakistan.

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That I believe is inaccurate, on more occasions he will score his first 10-15 runs quickly (with SR of 90-120) to make sure bowlers do not try to intimidate him but its after that he starts to slow down.

I believe he already said that, probably not specific to Fawad Alam but in general that the ultimate decision of 15-member squad comes from selection committee. We can argue that he didn't fight for right 15-member but then it may have caused more rifts in overall PCB team/management/selection committee/coach as they did with Inzamam, Younis and other captains, and they may have played around with changing captains .... resulting in more uncertainty in Pakistan cricket.


I do not believe Sarfaraz was in Pakistan for first 4 WC ODIs.


The answer is up there again.... the selection committee.

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Is Misbah as exciting in this press conference as he is during an inning

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Wish it was, but that is not true. Actually, it is after 35 to 40 balls, Misbah run rate improves a lot. But he (along with Younis Khan) is tuk tuk king during first 35 to 40 balls he plays. That means, if he gets out early (what he regularly do), than he wasted too many balls.

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I believe he already said that, probably not specific to Fawad Alam but in general that the ultimate decision of 15-member squad comes from selection committee. We can argue that he didn't fight for right 15-member but then it may have caused more rifts in overall PCB team/management/selection committee/coach as they did with Inzamam, Younis and other captains, and they may have played around with changing captains .... resulting in more uncertainty in Pakistan cricket.
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That is wrong again. In Pakistan, role of Captain in selection of team was similar to other world teams, but after Imran Khan captaincy, role of captain in selecting team increased, and today, say of Captain in final 15 team members is much more than role of captain in any other world cricket teams.

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I do not believe Sarfaraz was in Pakistan for first 4 WC ODIs.
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I don't know if you are joking or really saying something seriously. :).

Well, 4 world cup ODIs is not same as 4 world cup competitions. In competition, there are many ODIs and what I wrote is first 4 world cup ODIs Pakistan played in this world cup (WC 2015). (Misbah left out Sarfraz in first 4 world cup ODIs ... that is, against India, West Indies, Zimbabwe and UAE).

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The answer is up there again.... the selection committee.
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Again, I would still say that selection committee is responsible, but Misbah as Captain was part of Selection committee, and two person responsible most in Pakistan selection committee is Captain (most important) and Coach (second most), as they have the biggest say, plus they are responsible of teams performance. As for other members of selection committee and selection committee chairman, they in Pakistan is theoretically part time job.

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His press conference was yep yep and nothing else. But that is proven effective practice in Pakistan, because illiterate population believes yep yep. Nawaz in his speech claims that his great grand father presented Taj Mahal to Shah Jahan as gift and people would believe it. Zardari would say that Z A Bhutto and BeNazir cared for poor and people would believe it ... and so on. In same way, many would believe what Misbah is saying. :)

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Good for Misbah that he bashed Sikander, Yousuf. Both said some nonsense things on Geo(wonder if they towing Najam Sethi's line).
But the one thing Misbah should answer is why Sarfraz and Yasir were made part of regular team.

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As Captain he was asked for his opinion but the decision was always taken the sele ction panel of which Misbah is not part of

Fawad Alam isn't the saviour many think of him ..... His technique has flaws and he'll probably fail similar to Hafeez when the going gets tough especially in bowling friendly conditions

Umer Akmal is technically the most capable batsman of the current lot but his temprament and lack of judgement are his biggest downfall

Shehzad, Hafeez, Maqsood, Haris, Fawad are good for flat tracks

Misbah and Younis are too old to really counter high speed bowling

What is left in the batting dept.?!

Fielding is even worse

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May be you are right, but I remember a few games where his strike rate was good in beginning then dropped dead, then accelerated towards the end.

Who doesn't have "flaw"? :)

Umar Akmal who according to you is technically most capable delivers an average of 32 in Australia, while Fawad Alam with his flaws delivers 39.

He is not "savior" by any means, but atleast there will be something on the scoreboard for bowlers to defend :)

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Maybe Geo anchors are paid to be obnoxious and prickly, and I can understand why one would find someone like Sikandar Baksh or Shoaib Akhtar annoying. They're useless attention seekers.

But someone really needs to have a word with Misbah in private and make him realise how painfully pathetic it was to see him go in the block mode when all the team desperately needed was a constantly ticking score board. It is embarrassing how all other teams have repeatedly scored and chased nearly 300 runs, and Pakistani team had struggled to pose and chase anything over 230. So accept your own mistakes dude.

Before anyone calls me a Afridi fan just because I said something against Misbah...let me tell you Afridi disgust me! Absolutely. Calling me an Afridi fan in Cricket forum is akin to calling me Nawaz Sharif fan in PA. It's a huge personal offence. So don't do that.

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Exactly Jolie,
Misbah has the right to stand up to the people making him a whipping boy and giving free passes to the people who included Afridi as main spin bowler, or those who have either not fixed Umar Akmal,Ahmed Shehzad or dropped him altogether since past 5years.

But Misbah should answer:
why he starts to block everything,
his team does rotate the strike.

Many times in WC you have seen scores like 30-2 but the team keeps fighting instead of resorting to blocking everything. The downfall of Pakistan batting in past year has been they only care about boundaries and don't look to work the ball around for 1's and 2's.

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Umar Akmal is most technically sound batsman in Pakistan? Say what?

The match against India, Pakistan innings stopped moving after the 10th over when Shehzad, Sohail stopped taking singles and built pressure on each other. Fawad would have been perfect to keep the scoreboard ticking.

Fawad has the highest ODI average in history of Pakistan cricket. A top notch domestic record. What is the excuse
not having him in the lineup.

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Misbah was the worse ODI captain we ever had PERIOD

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Worse than Salman Butt, Shoaib Malik, Mohammad Yousuf?
Come on man. Put down the bud.