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Good Lord
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it’s like the battle of the ESL retards.
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So far we have established despite opposite assertions that there is nothing in Islam which prohibits men marrying more than one wife.
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^ I would like to know what ESl stands for.
^ I would like to know what ESL stands for.
Secondly, Diwana friend. I have just tried to find online a scholars particular statement specifically stating, that 'slave girls have no rights'. I tried finding it because i have seen it before.
Regardless of the back-up.
I still confidently assert slaves girls had no formal rights over thier masters, who physically owned them.
Im am merely trying to be upfront and honest about the aspect of polygamy and promiscuity in Islam.
Recall, What does the definition of word 'slave' mean. Does a 'slave' have any rights?
There are hadiths, such where the Prophet (pbuh) is saying that you SHOULD be kind and considerate towards them, but nowhere is there anything that says you MUST be, as to imply a obligation and right situation.
I belive more particularly these hadiths focus on thier basic rights to humane treatment for being fellow humans, as opposed to rights equivalent to something of a wife. Also I belive these hadiths were stemmed from the notion to abort the babaric slavery culture that was persisting.
I think without need for further evidence, if a women does not have an option of guarding her chasteness from a stranger, its clear how many rights she has.
And im sure you must alternativly know that if the slave girl was previously married, that marriage becomes nullified on becoming captured and distributed as 'booty' .
I cannot be bothered to research more, as this is not the topic. But Id agree to your stance, if you showed more apparent literature on slaves real/formal rights.
Im do not wish to argue, I just wish for clarity of the correct view.
I agree with your last post.
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Most men haven’t commented on whether they’d be ok with their daughters, sisters or moms being co-wives.
Of course.
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I would disprefer it, as anyone would.
However, if they had to go ahead. I would strive to ensure they properly furfill the equal rights condition and dues to my house, and consistantly so.
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I know it right? It’s been put forth before. Samb asked the same question. I agreed with him and asked it as well…and now you…there may have been others
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ESL?
Ignorance is bliss, is what I say.
And there is always…google.
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Be kind enough to teach us Ms!
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I said above supporting is one thing and presenting the facts is other.
Now, it is interesting to see no so called liberated woman has commented on what they feel about multiple datng, courtship etc. and using women as toys without marrying them.
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To all those who say that its a part of Islam and"don't doubt Allah's wisdom" and all that, SHUT UP. Don't quote Islam out of context!
Allah allows men to have 4 wives but HE says that they must be all TREATED EQUALLY. Go read Islamic Law. The conditions are such that no normal person can marry twice. HENCE, THE VAST MAJORITY cannot marry more than once. They simply can't fulfill the conditions
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Multi??? ;)
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In fact, I just joined the forum and this is a topic I feel strongly about :)
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dare i say it.....it's rather a "beloved" topic for a couple a folks here. And might i add.....one of rather redundant interest.
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To all those who say that its a part of Islam and"don't doubt Allah's wisdom" and all that, SHUT UP. Don't quote Islam out of context!
Allah allows men to have 4 wives but HE says that they must be all TREATED EQUALLY. Go read Islamic Law. The conditions are such that no normal person can marry twice. HENCE, THE VAST MAJORITY cannot marry more than once. They simply can't fulfill the conditions
no you shut up sitaaron kee roshni and listen to me,
How would you know you cannot treat them equally without marrying them, unless islam permits a test run which islam does not. If you cant treat them equally, its a sin but not a disqualification. Just like when you cant treat your only wife fairly, its a sin but she remains your wife, islam does not stop you from being her hubby if you cant treat her well (unless she decided to leave you)
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No I will not be Ok, but that does not mean that Islam does not allow that.
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To all those who say that its a part of Islam and"don't doubt Allah's wisdom" and all that, SHUT UP. Don't quote Islam out of context!
Allah allows men to have 4 wives but HE says that they must be all TREATED EQUALLY. Go read Islamic Law. The conditions are such that no normal person can marry twice. HENCE, THE VAST MAJORITY cannot marry more than once. They simply can't fulfill the conditions
In fact, I just joined the forum and this is a topic I feel strongly about :)
That is a false and misleading statement. There is no such banning law in Islamic jursprudence.
Diwan was the sole one who did quote in context.
If a man truly belives he can do adequate justness between the wives, he can re-marry.
Regarding the extended families issue. It is common a bigger family equates to bigger family issues, whether this be an immediate or extended family.
We have already establish Polygamy was common in the Prophets (pbuh) time, where he also had offspring from His other wives.
To add a waive of optimism to this thread; recall polygamy is a common and succesful modern phenomenon in saudia.arabia.
Implemented correctly, Polygamy is a halal and safe way for men to attain s.gratification as opposed to resorting and proliferating the social problem of cheating, prostitution, courtships.
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OK. If first time then welcome to GS.
Anyone can see you feel so strong about it that you started by screaming shut up! 
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Absolutely!..Conditions are placed, prohibitons are not. Conditions are placed so people do not run amok and abuse the sanctions/permission.
Yes. Merely facts are being presented. Personal choices can vary since it is not made mandatory for men to practice polygamy.
Asking personal and direct question and expecting an answer is no one’s business.
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no you shut up sitaaron kee roshni and listen to me,
How would you know you cannot treat them equally without marrying them, unless islam permits a test run which islam does not. If you cant treat them equally, its a sin but not a disqualification. Just like when you cant treat your only wife fairly, its a sin but she remains your wife, islam does not stop you from being her hubby if you cant treat her well (unless she decided to leave you)
And so you disagree with this verse:
**You are never able to be fair and just between women even if it is your ardent desire…" (Qur’an 4:129)
This is a part of Surat An-Nisa
*U ask how we can know without marrying them first. We know coz Allah tells us so!
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