http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070812/ap_on_re_mi_ea/mecca_lost_heritage
Re: Two ways saudis show their hatred towards the Prophet[pbuh]
lame
Re: Two ways saudis show their hatred towards the Prophet[pbuh]
In order to prevent the purity of Islam, Saudies do not mind to kill anyone.
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Its a non-sensical issue, if wanted Saudi would have done more if they were so much motivated wrt to money.
For me to travel from Riyadh to Jeddah by a public transports costs just 20 dollars for 2 days with a wonderful hotel accomadation just 5 minutes next to haram. These are subsidised rates. Now its again lame wehre will the millions of tourists reside otherwise since there is shortage of space they believe in Vertical buildings.
I find it a shame people fail to understand, though even if i believe they are monetarily motivated is it affecting the state of worshippers who travel thousands of kilometers for pilgrimage.
Anyways enemies of Islam love to malign Islam covering all the ways and we muslims always will fall trap to this.
Also understand 1 square meter in Makkah is around $4,000 just imagine the amount of money these people can mint if they want to.
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Whatever Saudies are doing for Harmeen, they are not doing with the money earned by them. It is all due to the resources given to them by Allah with the entreprenearuship of the west and the hard working labour of South Asia and and other countries. They just sit back and collect the rent and live lavishly.
So there is no big deal if they had spent on harmeen. The muslim rulers before them spent their hard earned money on harmeen.
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How are they showing hatred towards the Prophet :saw: by providing accomodation to the Pilgrims?
Islam is not a hermits religion, it’s necesary for them to build all these things, it’s not easy managing all them pilgrims, they work very hard all year round preparing for the Pilgrimage…
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With ever-increasing numbers of people coming to Hijaz, these are the necessary steps.
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^
Ditto!
Some of our Paki brothers are devoted more to buildings and tombs than to Allaah Paak, if they had their way they would ban Hajj to the Kaabah…
…And replace it 
with Qawwaali and Dhamaal at the grave of our Prophet :saw: as though it be a Dargah/Samadhi such as Daata-Darbaar in Pak..
They claim to love the Prophet yet are foremost in disobeying him and disregarding his words, orders and sayings (Ahadees-e-Mubaarika), if they truly loved him then as our Arab brothers say “the lover is to the beloved obedient”…
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It is so sad that a reporter who seems to be Muslim by name (SALAH NASRAWI) wrote an article which makes Muslims (or a Muslims country) look bad in front of the rest of the world
Dont we have enough propaganda going on against us by non-Muslims. I want to see a Jew reporter, bad mouthing Israel in international press
Plus, he is not telling the truth. He puts statements like "The visitors are prevented from praying (in the cemetery)", like it was a civil right and gvt. of Saudi is violating it. Who prays in cemetery, anyway? None of the sects/factions of Muslim faith do that. If they stop individual, every now and then, to go over board while showing the respect, is that a crime against humanity?
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Jewish reporters are some of the most vehement critics of Israel
Look at Seymour Hersh for instance…
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^^^ I will go through that. Thanks for the link
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I have no issue with them building whatever they want. although the names of the developments and the advertising slogans made me chuckle.
The question is more of development while preserving historical sites, not because they have ‘religious’ value lets say, but because they have histroical value.
Did they not raze the house of the prophet just recently. That was a poor thing to do.
First of all there are ways to build around preserved places, or they could have reloacted the house…left a marker that this is the place that the prophets home stood..and maybe not built hotels or restaurants in that few blocks area but a musuem.
But none of that was done and the reasons given were rather lame. that people do biddah, educate people, discourage such practices but dont raze buildings of historic importance and erase any signs of aras of historic importance.
The old city of makkah during the prophet’s time was not a huge place, and had people been sensible they would have tried to preserve as much of it as possible. not the whole city and not the whole area, but some buildings and sites of historical value.
Afterall “muqaam e Ibrahim” seems to be preserved. is it not? why was that not picked up and chucked? what religious value does it have? none, zero. it is a historic value. why could they not preserve the prophet’s house? even if they had to relocate it to some area outside where a museum could be made, and the house could have been part of a museum complex.
what a shame.
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I also don't care what they build and how they build.
Its just that these idiots have to realize when you destroy old Makkah landmarks, its a loss for the entire Muslim Ummah.
Saudis can't just go demolishing everything in their path. The Muslim Ummah must be consulted when these things happen.
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I have no issue with them building whatever they want. although the names of the developments and the advertising slogans made me chuckle.
The question is more of development while preserving historical sites, not because they have 'religious' value lets say, but because they have histroical value.
Did they not raze the house of the prophet just recently. That was a poor thing to do.
First of all there are ways to build around preserved places, or they could have reloacted the house...left a marker that this is the place that the prophets home stood..and maybe not built hotels or restaurants in that few blocks area but a musuem.
But none of that was done and the reasons given were rather lame. that people do biddah, educate people, discourage such practices but dont raze buildings of historic importance and erase any signs of aras of historic importance.
The old city of makkah during the prophet's time was not a huge place, and had people been sensible they would have tried to preserve as much of it as possible. not the whole city and not the whole area, but some buildings and sites of historical value.
Afterall "muqaam e Ibrahim" seems to be preserved. is it not? why was that not picked up and chucked? what religious value does it have? none, zero. it is a historic value. why could they not preserve the prophet's house? even if they had to relocate it to some area outside where a museum could be made, and the house could have been part of a museum complex.
what a shame.
well said.....I agree.
Re: Two ways saudis show their hatred towards the Prophet[pbuh]
I have no issue with them building whatever they want. although the names of the developments and the advertising slogans made me chuckle.
The question is more of development while preserving historical sites, not because they have 'religious' value lets say, but because they have histroical value.
Did they not raze the house of the prophet just recently. That was a poor thing to do.
First of all there are ways to build around preserved places, or they could have reloacted the house...left a marker that this is the place that the prophets home stood..and maybe not built hotels or restaurants in that few blocks area but a musuem.
But none of that was done and the reasons given were rather lame. that people do biddah, educate people, discourage such practices but dont raze buildings of historic importance and erase any signs of aras of historic importance.
The old city of makkah during the prophet's time was not a huge place, and had people been sensible they would have tried to preserve as much of it as possible. not the whole city and not the whole area, but some buildings and sites of historical value.
Afterall "muqaam e Ibrahim" seems to be preserved. is it not? why was that not picked up and chucked? what religious value does it have? none, zero. it is a historic value. why could they not preserve the prophet's house? even if they had to relocate it to some area outside where a museum could be made, and the house could have been part of a museum complex.
what a shame.
sorry i don't understand what you are talking about house of Hazoor PBUH
in my recent visit to makkah and madina that is 4 or 5 days back
people have shown me the house of Hazoor PBUH , and they have left him there but convert them into islamic library
so that house is purely preserved
i seriously don't understand what are you trying to say
one thing i agree with author of the article that huge building near kaba are not good looking and every one their is trying to construct building so that they have rooms from where people can see the Kaba directly
whereas in madena that is very very organized, if you have come out through the abdul aziz gate number 21 ie the main gate
you see the DAR UL TAQWA they are the huge hotels but nice looking and organized
whoever have seen both the cities every one likes that Makkah should also be developed like madena
i don't know why there is so much difference in the construction of both cities but madena looks better construction wise
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In order to prevent the purity of Islam, Saudies do not mind to kill anyone.
do you have problem with saudies
have you ever met with any arab or not
i think you havn't
all your lame excuses bases on suni suani
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^I think Fraudz meant house of Hazrat Khadija(ra), that has been razed recently, someone posted the pictures on GS recently.
Re: Two ways saudis show their hatred towards the Prophet[pbuh]
With ever-increasing numbers of people coming to Hijaz, these are the necessary steps.
100% correct
but Makkah is not as much organized as madena
huge towers near Kabba should be pushed somewhere back
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i don't know why there is so much difference in the construction of both cities but madena looks better construction wise
You're not the first person who's saying this....I've heard many people saying this...it reminds me of a hadith that dajjal will enter every city and town except Madina.
Re: Two ways saudis show their hatred towards the Prophet[pbuh]
The question is more of development while preserving historical sites, not because they have 'religious' value lets say, but because they have histroical value.
Did they not raze the house of the prophet just recently. That was a poor thing to do.
First of all there are ways to build around preserved places, or they could have reloacted the house...left a marker that this is the place that the prophets home stood..and maybe not built hotels or restaurants in that few blocks area but a musuem.
But none of that was done and the reasons given were rather lame. that people do biddah, educate people, discourage such practices but dont raze buildings of historic importance and erase any signs of aras of historic importance.
The old city of makkah during the prophet's time was not a huge place, and had people been sensible they would have tried to preserve as much of it as possible. not the whole city and not the whole area, but some buildings and sites of historical value.
Afterall "muqaam e Ibrahim" seems to be preserved. is it not? why was that not picked up and chucked? what religious value does it have? none, zero. it is a historic value. why could they not preserve the prophet's house? even if they had to relocate it to some area outside where a museum could be made, and the house could have been part of a museum complex.
what a shame.
Valid point, Fraudz. I totally agree on this. Its utterly sad.