Re: Two ways saudis show their hatred towards the Prophet[pbuh]
^I think Fraudz meant house of Hazrat Khadija(ra), that has been razed recently, someone posted the pictures on GS recently.
if i am not wrong , that is the same house of Hazoor PBUH in makkah
and that is still intact and has become library
Re: Two ways saudis show their hatred towards the Prophet[pbuh]
I also don't care what they build and how they build.
Its just that these idiots have to realize when you destroy old Makkah landmarks, its a loss for the entire Muslim Ummah.
Saudis can't just go demolishing everything in their path. The Muslim Ummah must be consulted when these things happen.
i don't agree, i think they have preserved but actually they havn't marked them
and pakistanies their are most unorganized and you can't find single map in urdu there through which you can locate the proper sites
in persion , and arabic you can find
and when you go there you see they have preserved but not marked
because every time they leave some place, pakistani start writing their names with black marker with a superstition that writing the name will bring them back
just go on jabal ul rehmat, Gharey hira, Gharey saur, see there
people have right their name , dates etc etc and distroyed thoes place absolutely
Re: Two ways saudis show their hatred towards the Prophet[pbuh]
You're not the first person who's saying this....I've heard many people saying this...it reminds me of a hadith that dajjal will enter every city and town except Madina.
might be
but when i was talking to different people there they were saying that is due the reason that medina had been the most cultured city of arab because it was the capital for many years and same thing coming till now so they are more organized
Re: Two ways saudis show their hatred towards the Prophet[pbuh]
but one thing i really realized, if so many people come into some other cities
there will be much much trouble then in Makkah and madena
and even inside Haram if you see during prayer times , they are jamp packed full
although it is neither ramazan nor hajj times
and similarly in thoes days it also jam packed , how the whole haram holds so many people and not a single trouble inside that
its a really mojza
the whole inside area around kaba should not be more then small cricket ground
and million and millions people come inside and every thing remain at peace and in ramazn and hajj times 10 times more people come inside but still everything remain at peace
how so many people come inside during hajj times even when in normal days the whole haram remain jam packed , it is really a mojza
mojza hi hay key haram sub ko samoo leta hay
only trouble came infront of shiatan pillors
amazing really amazing
Re: Two ways saudis show their hatred towards the Prophet[pbuh]
one thing more
the author of the article donot know that saudies are not wahabi (ahley hadees) they are hambali
Re: Two ways saudis show their hatred towards the Prophet[pbuh]
** Two ways saudis show their hatred towards the Prophet[pbuh]
**^ This is ridiculous title and in no way represent the subject matter of the article.
Saudis, just like all other muslims , love prophet (pbuh) and Islam. and They constently pouring large ammount of money and efforts for providing confort to pilgrims.
the construction near haram is debatable topic, but i believe that the intentions are right because mostly people are old and they cant walk long distances to reach the holy masjid, so they need the accomodation as near as possible.
Title is changed.
Re: Two ways saudis show their hatred towards the Prophet[pbuh]
100% correct
but Makkah is not as much organized as madena huge towers near Kabba should be pushed somewhere back
pushed back where?
Makkah is in a valley
its surrounded on all sides by mountains
the hotel they are making, they created space for it after they destroyed a mountain
go to Makkah, you will see Hotels that are build on sides of mountains
Re: Two ways saudis show their hatred towards the Prophet[pbuh]
pushed back where?
Makkah is in a valley
its surrounded on all sides by mountains
the hotel they are making, they created space for it after they destroyed a mountain
go to Makkah, you will see Hotels that are build on sides of mountains
i know , like now they have almost distroyed the jabel ummer that was on the other side of road
i am not against hotels, if you have seen hotels in medena , like Dar ul Taqwa etc etc
and match them with the tower just outside masjide haram , you will surely like them to push some where else , they are too close and too huge and you feel uneasyness
just side to dar ul tawa , food street type place give really cool atomospher where as just outside hamza street (plaza) in makka you got the feeling of raja bazar ( rawalpindi) hussain a gai ( multan) etc etc
Re: Two ways saudis show their hatred towards the Prophet[pbuh]
** Two ways saudis show their hatred towards the Prophet[pbuh]
**^ This is ridiculous title and in no way represent the subject matter of the article.
Saudis, just like all other muslims , love prophet (pbuh) and Islam. and They constently pouring large ammount of money and efforts for providing confort to pilgrims.
the construction near haram is debatable topic, but i believe that the intentions are right because mostly people are old and they cant walk long distances to reach the holy masjid, so they need the accomodation as near as possible.
Title is changed.
i think the authors belong to beralwi type people , because when saudi doesn't allow them to do sajda to Qaboor they start thinking that saudi are disgrading Hazoor PBUH and start calling them wahabi etc etc
if anyone have ever visited to Makkah and Medina , the management inside both mosques are superb and ever more then that
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It is so sad that a reporter who seems to be Muslim by name (SALAH NASRAWI) wrote an article which makes Muslims (or a Muslims country) look bad in front of the rest of the world
Dont we have enough propaganda going on against us by non-Muslims. I want to see a Jew reporter, bad mouthing Israel in international press
Plus, he is not telling the truth. He puts statements like "The visitors are prevented from praying (in the cemetery)", like it was a civil right and gvt. of Saudi is violating it. Who prays in cemetery, anyway? None of the sects/factions of Muslim faith do that. If they stop individual, every now and then, to go over board while showing the respect, is that a crime against humanity?
If Muslims dont stand up and tell the rest of the world about this ugly crap they are building there who will?
Re: Mecca's hallowed skyline transformed
Have any one witnessed the problems caused by the "ijma" of Islami-Jamat on the Multan Road side of Lahore, the traffic jams, lack of transportation, humans are lying on foot-paths like animals, waiting for transport. No where to quality food, no proper sanitation system.. and yet the number of people in this Ijma is about million As per their statistics.
If my information is right, then approx. 1 million people visit Makkah and Madina every year in Ramadan, some of them stays there till Haj, and during the Haj season the number the grows to 2.5 Million humans.
Have anyone seen the complain of, lack of transportatation, Hotels, healthy food!!! how did DUMB-GREEDY Saudi managed to control all this population, when civilized and Islam-Loving People of Lahore cannot manage a few hundred thousand people in subrubs of the city?
This article seems to be the part of series for defaming Saudi govt (regarding the management of Holy sites), nothing more... and does not make any sense...
Re: Mecca's hallowed skyline transformed
Why are Saudis ruling Arabia in the first place? Where is the caliphate? Whatever happened to the real Islamic system of elected leaders instead of a monarchy? Who the hell are these sauds? They aren't even from this region to begin with.
Saudi Arabia = Islamic? Not in a million years. It is just an illusion of an islamic state.
Re: Mecca's hallowed skyline transformed
I think Makkah and Medinah should be governed by an Islamic Council. Just like the Vatican is in Rome. A similar approach should work here.
Have a Islamic council ruling Makkah and Medinah and not let the Saudis be the representatives of Islam
Re: Mecca's hallowed skyline transformed
Why are Saudis ruling Arabia in the first place? Where is the caliphate? Whatever happened to the real Islamic system of elected leaders instead of a monarchy? Who the hell are these sauds? They aren't even from this region to begin with.
Saudi Arabia = Islamic? Not in a million years. It is just an illusion of an islamic state.
If we look at the logic of ur question than there are number of questions;
Why Whites are ruling USA in the first place, who the hell are these white people, they aren't from this region to begin with.
Anyway, Saudis are the one who captured this land which include the two Holy Sites, after the fall of Great Othomanic Khilafat/Empire. same as Price Faisal annouced his Kingdom in Syria, and Hashmities announced their in Jordan.
None of them present Islam nor anyone claims to do so, there policies and agenda openly says that, they claim to serve the pilgrims who visit these holy places, and i believe that they have done a good Job in it.
Re: Two ways saudis show their hatred towards the Prophet[pbuh]
sorry i don't understand what you are talking about house of Hazoor PBUH in my recent visit to makkah and madina that is 4 or 5 days back people have shown me the house of Hazoor PBUH , and they have left him there but convert them into islamic library so that house is purely preserved i seriously don't understand what are you trying to say
Hareem answered your question..
^I think Fraudz meant house of Hazrat Khadija(ra), that has been razed recently, someone posted the pictures on GS recently.
Re: Mecca's hallowed skyline transformed
I think Makkah and Medinah should be governed by an Islamic Council. Just like the Vatican is in Rome. A similar approach should work here.
Have a Islamic council ruling Makkah and Medinah and not let the Saudis be the representatives of Islam
sorry man, the councilw ould be fighting on idiotic stuff just like you see shia sunnis, deobandi barelvi, wahabi-everyone esle argue ad nauseum about why the others are wrong.
While saudis caling teh shots is bad, I dont think a council is going to solve anything.. it is bound to create more issues atleast in the short term.
Re: Mecca's hallowed skyline transformed
Fatwa 45685 from Mulla Naseeruddin Al Bizar:To prevent sanctity Saudies should build all multi-storied building underground. All oil liberated in the process should be donated to Mr.Diesel, remiited via the brothers