PM - you see why I keep a mile's distance from religious and political forums?
dude funny thing is most religious discussion have nothing to do with religion.
Its like when these ppl are going to see God, and he asks "what good things you did"
they are going say "wazifa1 ,2 and wazifa 99."
he is going to say "huh????"
lolzzzz
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i have also heard that Muslim women must not got o graves etc
but then we all go for Prophet PBUH’s ziarat in madinah.We women must be prohibited from going there as well.Other than taht i dont hink i need to repeat what everyone else is saying:yawn:
Biddat is sumthing that is against Prophets Sunnah
Dude, I dont know about you but my peer is going to steer me clear - straight to heaven 
^ get ready to be labelled “wahabi” sister 
on a serious note women going to a graveyard isnt prohibited. only going there and crying like girls is. and mpst women r softies and its hard for them to control their emotions so may be thats y ppl tell them not to.
Yeah that too and i have read the hadeeth “that the resting souls sees the women naked” but i aint sure abt authentication
did women in Prophet PBUH’s days used to visit graves?
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KEEL - 
so what if the poor dead guys see a woman naked? not that they can do anything about it. Pagal! 
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I dont necessarily agree with all actions of Saudi's, but they certainly deserve commendation for controling biddah.
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^ true!
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i will publish my fatwa if i reach to some conclusion .lemme do some research
Maulana Pingu
dude
my smartest brother, who was destine for real big things, started believing that world of tasawuf is been unveiled to him. sigh
I don’t know what to do.
Hmmmm Two options my brother:
say what.
I’m not amazed to hear the salafi saudi views.
We read Surah Fatiha in all the prayers…ever wonder what does “siraataladhina anamta alaihim” mean?
So now you are arguing against making dua even without tawassul.
And where did I say Jibril(AS) were teaching “his own ways”? Jibril(AS) was his teacher because he taught him Allah’s message.
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nvm i said wat i had to say. its really not worth it argiung with u cuz ur agung fo rsake of argument who ever needed the answer she got it already.
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Yes asking Allah directly is absolutely fine and so is asking Allah through a prophet, prophet's relative, a wali or a shaheed.
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Do you have any authentic hadith in which the Prophet pbuh taught his companions to visit the graves of dead people and ask them to pray for them?
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They are getting us close to Allah and his Messenger(SAW), what else can there be to wish for?
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How do you know with 110% certainty that they were close to Allah to begin with? There is a hadith qudsi in which 3 different type of people, someone who died in jihaad, someone who was a scholar and someone who gave generously in charity, will tell Allah what they did for His sake, and He will tell them they are lying, they only did it so people in the world would say that he is such-and-such (praise their piety), and it was said in the world for them and now they will be thrown in hellfire. The point I am trying to make here is, if we saw these people in the world we would have thought they were righteous and pious people who were devoted to Allah and only Allah knew the reality of their heart. We cant judge anyone because we cant see whats in anyone's heart. So this person lying dead in their grave ---maybe they seemed pious in their life from what we could see, but none has a guarantee of Jannah and we dont know what is their state in the grave. So how can anyone leave something as important as dua up to something so uncertain as this? When on the other side we have the utmost 5000% certainty that Allah is indeed there for us and He does indeed listen to all our prayers and when we take one step to come closer to Him, He comes 2 steps closer to us ----so where is the logic in praying to a dead person when we can pray to the One who never dies!!!!!
Do you have any authentic hadith in which the Prophet pbuh taught his companions to visit the graves of dead people and ask them to pray for them?
I've already posted quite a lot of statement but people are calling google search etc.
How do you know with 110% certainty that they were close to Allah to begin with? There is a hadith qudsi in which 3 different type of people, someone who died in jihaad, someone who was a scholar and someone who gave generously in charity, will tell Allah what they did for His sake, and He will tell them they are lying, they only did it so people in the world would say that he is such-and-such (praise their piety), and it was said in the world for them and now they will be thrown in hellfire. The point I am trying to make here is, if we saw these people in the world we would have thought they were righteous and pious people who were devoted to Allah and only Allah knew the reality of their heart. We cant judge anyone because we cant see whats in anyone's heart. So this person lying dead in their grave ---maybe they seemed pious in their life from what we could see, but none has a guarantee of Jannah and we dont know what is their state in the grave. So how can anyone leave something as important as dua up to something so uncertain as this? When on the other side we have the utmost 5000% certainty that Allah is indeed there for us and He does indeed listen to all our prayers and when we take one step to come closer to Him, He comes 2 steps closer to us ----so where is the logic in praying to a dead person when we can pray to the One who never dies!!!!!
I can answer your post but what's the point? I never said "praying to dead" or "praying to someone other than Allah".
I think you are not reading my posts, just making up thing in your mind or saying what others are repeating in this forum.
Also, can you prove people who visit shrines actually ask others for help instead of Allah and thus they're mushrik?
Qam Ba'azan Allah keh sakTe jo RukhsaaT howe
KhaN'kha'hooN mein MajawaaR reh ga'ay yea GooRkaan
(Allama Iqbal )
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I can answer your post but what's the point? I never said "praying to dead" or "praying to someone other than Allah".
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Ok sorry, I guess I didnt read your post carefully? I thought people who go to mazaar are doing one of two things: making dua for the dead person (for Allah to forgive them etc) or making dua to the person. What other reasons are there to visit the mazaar?
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first one is copy of an arabic song and the lyrics of first 2 ermmmmmm… u knw wat i mean. but nuthing new heard em in many naats and qawwalis also
but didnt fing anything in 3rd one though:hmmm: but wat does chaiyaan chaiyaan means?