Masturbation (merged)

Re: Masterbation

In my humble opinion the masturbation is good with the understanding that it would avoid a greater sin or evil work of commiting Zina (adultery)......or ...sex out of wedlock.

But few things can be done to prevent the rise in sexual desire if it cannot be fulfilled by permissible act like having 'sexual act' with a spouse described as 'making love';

1- Eat less or fast.

2- Avoid stimulating sources such as avoiding looking at opposite sex in 'that' way, or photos, movies or reading material or novels 'like that'.

3- get involved into spiritual activities....Pray more and read spiritual material more.

4- Avoid intermignling with members of opposite sex unnecessarily.

5- Avoid going out of town for whatever reason so that one is away from the spouse for a long time! (I personally feel bad for a married couple who is separated for long time just for financial or whatever reaon and even for so called Tableegh..................and this requires a separate discussion)

6- Get married ASAP. Men have more control on getting married early situation than girls. And this is a universal phenomenon.

7- For many men and women, when the 'tension' is high..it makes next day very light and pleasant if 'wet dream' comes and............and waiting for it is quite OK.

8- I think other poster suggesting that it makes a man weaker meant it would make a man with 'delayed response' or even 'early satisfaction/discharge'.....but I personally think it is a lesser price to pay than commiting a sin.

Masturbation in my knowledge has no ill-effect on any major physical capabilities of a person, man or woman. In general, men get sleepy after satisfaction and women become more active and alert for some reason after sexual gratification.
There may be many myth circulating however. (This may need another separate discussion)

9-Perhaps certain food items (hot and spicy) may need to be avoided but really not so much substanciated...........desire may come with whatever one consumes and has calories/food energy.

So, if nothing works and desire comes.........then masturbation may be considered a better option than resorting to commiting sin.

I am willing to change my position if argument(s) to the contrary is/are stronger.

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There is **no way **nothing ‘can’t’ work. If an individual actually makes the effort of avoiding it, then it will work.

Masturbation is haraam either way.

See, this is the beauty behind islam. It goes back to reason why you shouldn’t watch movies and such things on TV.

The more you’re exposed to the opposite sex dressed nicely for you, or looking attractive, the more you think about it, the more you will be forced into doing it.

Thats beautiful…EVERY thing HARAAM in islam has A REASON.

There are somethings which are HAraam, that I can’t find reason for, yet Still follow because, ALlah is all knowing, and HE KNOWS BEST.

Re: Masterbation

So you are telling me that people that have sex after marriage should do it out of pressure of procreating rather than pleasure? On the one hand, Allah gives you instincts to check out the opposite sex, and then on the other hand, he tells you to not have sex before marriage. On top of that, masturbation is termed Haraam. Can human beings get a break? Once again, something pleasurable is deemed Haraam. Quite usual as far as Islam is concerned.

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thegame hello! it is haraam because it is causing many problems and making you weak man.

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It was the same thing in christianity that is why Hairshirt was invented
The Knights Templers had very strict rules regarding sex and any they even bathed in their underpants.
The lamps were kept bright in the night to discourage homosexuality
Meat was served only 3 times a week
Any contact with females was forbidden

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I should change my statement to “quite usual as far as religion is concerned”. Organized religion :rolleyes: , meh.

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Bhaijan, please give me a link to a scientific journal article that states masturbation makes you sexually incompetent and I shall agree with you.

Re: Masterbation

There is no known major physical problem associated with masturbation.

But psychologically it could be considered cheating on your partner...if you imagine someone other than the life partner during masturbation. Many would tell you its a sin.

Other problem may be that it may make someone develop introverted personality...its the idea that something is being done in a secret envoirnment and making sure one does not get seen or caught, develops sort of social anxiety as well. In general a person is more confident if the person does usual daily acts without secret acts like that.

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SRPA,
You need urgent help dude, I recommend Sanyasi Baba No 420 for your tragic ailment ie perverted mind which can be stimulated by looking at well dressed people (boys/girls, depending upon your choice). If you cannot afford the minimal fee involved, then Govt aid will be provided. This is a matter of national security, when we have sick minds such as these frolicking around, no one can be safe. Our trusted agent, 000 the P (Bush) will be assigned to take care of your self-righteous problems for he is the king of all pomposity, you shall not feel alone. Bets of luck, and please do not touch anything which may stimulate jerky reactions.

Re: Masterbation

So Dr Phil, some of your ‘pearls’ of wisdom (:rolleyes: ) need further explanation for the less fortunate such as this poor soul.

1Q. Hungry people do not get the urge? Iam hungry, confused but still very very very horneee, so how does your advise change anything?

2Q. ‘That’ vey? Most of my problems are sleep related, can u please advise how to prevent any bedside accidents and how does it relate to your advise on avoiding ‘that’ vey?

3Q. Maulvis, padris, Rabbis etc etc etc do not engage in any form of me and me exercizes? Hmmmm, so that explains their taste for young boyzzzzz. Excellent point Dr Phil.

4Q. How much is intermingling? Are you in favor of homosexuality cause u only talk about the opposite sex? If we only i(e)nter and do not mingle is that OK?

5Q. What if hubbies do not got any even when in town? Is Mutta Haraam? What about the Sunni form of Mutta? How ‘Long’ is ‘long’?

6Q. How soon is ASAP? If men have more control on getting married, then why dont they just control their urges? Why ‘drop’ their problems on other people laps?

7Q. Tension? I have no idea what tension u r talking about. What is a wet dream? My dreams are always on land, can u please elaborate. And, how does it make the next day light and pleasent? What are we supposed to wait for?

8Q. Doc, how many times a day can cause such effects? I have been exercizing my wholiness three times a day for the last how many years, but nothing changes. your implications have me worried, can u please advise?

Doc, these are contradictory statements, either u do or u do not, Iam confused and very ‘hard’ pressed for an answer. So when u say in General does that mean as in General Musharaff or general general? Men get sleepy and women alert? Doc, which medical book have u consulted, reference will be helpful, cause those who are fortunate enough may beg to differ. More importantly, Define gratification?

There are 1.4BLN Chinese and 1BLN Indians cause they all eat hot and spicy soup? Doc, Karachi dudes must be really hard on after eating all those niharis, chaats etc etc. Can this be avoided by having ice cream afterwards?

Doc which position are u talking about? 32 or 69?

Dr Phil,
In conclusion, on behalf of all less fortunate people of this world, pleas accept our hand-felt appreciation, your excellent advise can be categorized as a masterpiece, a most erudite depiciton of a universal problem. We all would have clapped for you and given u a standing ovation, but dew to some natural disaesters and akward situations, niether clapping or standing is permitted. Please accept our rabri…:smiley:

Re: Masterbation

For those who think that Islam forbids pleasure of simple things in life should read more in to the literature, which was and is available about sex by Muslim scholars and jurists. The only difference is that Islam puts a limit on how and when you can have that pleasure, in case of sex, its only allowed once you are married.

The other important point, which many fail to undersstand, is that no one in this world has the right to declare some thing Haram which Allah and his messenger didn’t declare haram (now dont jump the gun, there is a process of doing that). So we should be very careful when saying such and such is haram, with out any references from Quran and hadith.

As per the original question, different jurists have different opinions on this matter, and there is no single opinion available. Based on some jurists its allowed. So its your own decision, and may Allah guide us all. Ameen

Self Indulgence- masturbation

Married women- what do you say about that. Research shows that nearly all men do so. Does it bother you to know that your husband does so? Is it haraam?

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What if the question is turned around and it is the women who are doing the act?

I know it maybe unthinkable for some but then what will the response be???/

Re: Self Indulgence- masturbation

why does everyone have this view that all men masturbate? or watch porn?

and what is frustrating is that they dont' even know more than 10 men! please stop making these general comments..

thanks

Re: Self Indulgence- masturbation

Oh give it a break people. Ghoom ghaam ke masturbation, porn, aur sex pe aa jaa thay hain. Leave people to worry about the activities in their own home, and get on with your lives. Sometimes, I wonder why people don't bother to worry about more serious issues.

Who the hell cares if x, y, or z is masturbating? Are you going to step in their homes and stop them, or vice versa, get someone to masturbate who does not do it?

I don't see the point of these topics, or else I'm just getting old.

Re: Self Indulgence- masturbation

sooraj-mukhi, although the thread’s been moved to Religion forum upon your request, I don’t see how much of your query is suitable here, since you’re mainly concerned with the opinion of wives in general.

In any case, here’s what I could find on it (I didn’t read it):

Ruling on masturbation and how to cure the problem

Masturbation between husband and wife

What is the Islamic ruling on masturbation?

Lemme know if you need more.

Re: Self Indulgence- masturbation

lol sorry, but I just couldn’t help but bring this up.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=204613&highlight=breast+implants

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wen i wrote something just like this my post was removed.

**stinking hypocrisy.**reason given was that it was directed at PCG.

so i will write again.

we shud talk abt is
1]wat wud u be if u were born again as an organism
2]is hagrid gay
3]homosexuality in literature
4]man-hos etc etc etc which r really serious issues .

Re: Self Indulgence- masturbation

Hiii soorag mukki ,
r u married or not , just curious ..

Re: Self Indulgence- masturbation

Nopes im not married- and i was just curious too about how wives felt about this.