Not like you won’t do it. So whats the point of askin’ 
From what I know scholars have concocted some major lines up about it that put you to sleep. So each time you feel the urge, just read what they wrote, it’ll completely put you off or just put you to sleep 
And what have scholars said, any sites or anything??
Scholars have said that "if you can't be with the one you love, love the one with you with"
scholars have said it is haraam....
some have not declared it haraam but have said it is an unliked act and shud be avoided....
no one has given conditional permission for it....
my own personal view is that no one has yet come up with a good enuff reason why masturbation and/or oral sex is to be prohibited....
And those who guard their chastity.
Except from their wives or (the captives and slaves) that their right hands possess, for then, they are free from blame; But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors; (Al-Mu'minun 23:5-7)
i dont see how this verse allows masturbation...allah has made that only form of sexual satisfaction is with wives and captives and slaves, the other are "transgressors". some ppl have gone out of their way to describe that "right hand" means the actual right hand, but we cant simply start interpreting the meaning of quran on our own, because the meaning was explained by rasul of Allah, and the rasul told us that right hand possesions means captives and slaves of war. i dont see how any one can read this verse and say that sick act is allowed...
Masturbation is sick but sex with slaves or captives isn't?
^ homosexuals are vile? but making gay pyramids isn't..what's behind the thinking of cons?
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Masturbation is sick but sex with slaves or captives isn't?
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Why should it be sick, you're satisfying yourself and them the natural way, where's the problem?
Sexis a basic human need like food, water and shelter, if Allah has allowed it in certain situations then go ahead and have fun and keep it halal, why be a sour apple? frustrated sarrey huwey amreekan :p
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scholars have said it is haraam....
some have not declared it haraam but have said it is an unliked act and shud be avoided....
no one has given conditional permission for it....
my own personal view is that no one has yet come up with a good enuff reason why masturbation and/or oral sex is to be prohibited....
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oral sex that reminds me of a question i've been wantin to ask, is semen taahir or naajis?
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Masturbation is sick but sex with slaves or captives isn't?
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you dont understand one think, that is for a muslim, even feelings are to be directed by Allah,..if allah has allowed for us to have sex with women that were captured in the battle field, then it is allowed and ok and we do not feel any shame about it...
zakii and thandaymaazak, r u both on dope?
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zakii and thandaymaazak, r u both on dope?
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i do not do drugs, so it is probably you who is on dope, and besides, i am defending what allah has made lawful, if you consider it shameful, i cant help it, it will not change allah's religion just because a couple of western minded people think some lawful acts are sick...
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you dont understand one think, that is for a muslim, even feelings are to be directed by Allah,..if allah has allowed for us to have sex with women that were captured in the battle field, then it is allowed and ok and we do not feel any shame about it...
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So you wouldn't have a problem with American forces having sex with Iraqi women that are captured? Or is this "right" for Muslim men only?
Masturbation is victimless but forcible sex with captured women can ruin a woman's life. It is self centered to think God would care more about what you do with yourself in your own privacy than the trauma you would force upon a woman for your same selfish desires. Are you really that much more important than a slave girl?
you have it right, this “right” is for muslim men only.
however, all women are not slaves just because you capture a city. they have to be captured from the BATTLEFIELD.
any how, islam-qa has this to say about this issue
It is rare nowadays to find slaves in the shar’i sense in which it is permissible to be intimate with them etc. That is because most of the Muslims have long since given up the obligation of jihad for the sake of Allaah, in addition to their position of weakness and humiliation before their kaafir enemies, so that many of the majority-Muslim nations have signed the protocol that expressly forbids slavery and strives to put an end to it, which was agreed upon in the United Nations in 1953.
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=26067&dgn=3&
and besides, if the person who is a real momin, meaning a true believer, he will not be a tyrant or a rapist for the woman, he will be nice and respect her, and he will treat her kindly and she will not feel any force from him. so it can not be described as rape…
so where in the Quran does it say abt having sex with slaves?
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my own personal view is that no one has yet come up with a good enuff reason why masturbation and/or oral sex is to be prohibited....
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hahahahahaha
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*Originally posted by ThandyMazaq: *
you dont understand one think, that is for a muslim, even feelings are to be directed by Allah,..if allah has allowed for us to have sex with women that were captured in the battle field, then it is allowed and ok and we do not feel any shame about it...
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yes but we will still protest anyone taking our clothes off if we are captured in a battle....
great sense of justice.
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and besides, if the person who is a real momin, meaning a true believer, he will not be a tyrant or a rapist for the woman, he will be nice and respect her, and he will treat her kindly and she will not feel any force from him. so it can not be described as rape...
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yeah in the medical world such a person is called a psychopath.
hey that reminds me of the movie I saw few days ago on ZTV where Shahrukh Khan is playing the role of a psychopath who is obsessed with a girl who does not give a **** about him...but he kills her husband, sister and daughter just so that he can be with her and be nice and respectful to her and make nicey nicey love to her.
can a muslim..a real one... please tell us why the world should not hate the extremists with above thought process...and allegedly a sanction for it from the man upstairs?
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yeah in the medical world such a person is called a psychopath.
hey that reminds me of the movie I saw few days ago on ZTV where Shahrukh Khan is playing the role of a psychopath who is obsessed with a girl who does not give a **** about him...but he kills her husband, sister and daughter just so that he can be with her and be nice and respectful to her and make nicey nicey love to her.
can a muslim..a real one... please tell us why the world should not hate the extremists with above thought process...and allegedly a sanction for it from the man upstairs?
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wallah, i have found you to be the most blasphamous of the people...allah's messenger had slave girls and he had intercourse with them, he even had a son from one of his slaves. and yet you call him a phycopath, and a rapist and what not. may allah save us from such evil words.
the verses i qouted above say that is it permissible to have intercourse with right hand possesions and that means slaves of war, if you do not believe in that part of quran, then that is an act of kufr, welcome to the brotherhood of kuffar...