Sadiyah
September 24, 2005, 3:45am
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This is most likely the Shafi view, as the main scholar at this place follow Shafi mathab.
Masturbation is generally considered forbidden in Islam since it is deemed to fall under the category of sexual satisfaction outside the framework of marriage.
According to the Qur’an, those who seek fulfillment outside the framework of marriage are deemed transgressors. (See the Qur’an: 23: 7). While explaining this verse, one often finds the commentators listing masturbation under the list of the forbidden categories of sexual fulfillment.
What we have stated above is the generally accepted view. However, according to some scholars, if a person is so tormented by his intense sexual desire or craving that he fears falling into zina (fornication), in such a case, masturbation is permitted as the lesser of the two evils. His case may be compared to that of a person who is permitted to eat pork because of fear of death by starvation.
However, having mentioned the above, we must state that one hardly needs to resort to it when we recognize the relatively flexible approach towards marriage that Islam adopts. Unfortunately, against the clear teachings of Islam, marriage has been rendered another difficult process today due to warped customs and conventions and undue expectations. When we approach marriage from the point of view of pristine Islam, we shall find less and less people being forced to exercise the above type of exceptional rulings.
Source: What does Islam teach about masturbation for, both, males and females?
Sadiyah
September 24, 2005, 3:59am
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Following is most likely the Hanafi view:
Masturbation is Haraam (unlawful) and a major sin.
This is the ruling of the four Madhaahibs viz. Maliki, Shafée, Hanafee and
one riwaayah (narration) from Imaam Hanbalee. They have drawn their
conclusions from the following proofs:
PROOFS FROM THE QURÃN
Allah Taãla says:
'And those who guard their private parts from their wives and those
(slave-girls) which their right-hands own - so there is no blame upon them.
Then whoever seeks beyond that (which is lawful), they are the
transgressors.
The intended meaning of these Aayat is clear. Allah Taãla has praised the
believers for guarding their private parts from that which He has made
forbidden for them. Allah has permitted them to approach their wives and
slave-girls. Thereafter, these words of Allah Taãla follow: 'Whoever seeks
beyond that which is lawful are oppressors who overstep from Halaal
(permitted) towards Haraam (prohibited).
Hafiz ibn Katheer (RA) writes Imaam Shaafée (RA) and those who have agreed
with him have concluded that masturbation is Haraam from this Aayat.’ He
says: 'Masturbation is excluded from these two types which Allah has made
Halaal, viz. wives and slave-girls.
Similarly, these Fuqahaa (Jurists) have drawn their conclusion from the
following Aayat:
‘And those who do not find the means to marry should remain chaste until
Allah gives them resources by His grace.’
This Aayat shows masturbation to be Haraam because of two reasons: Firstly,
in this Aayat Allah Taãla has given the command of chastity and, according
to the principles of Fiqh, a command (an imperative) denotes Wujoob
(incumbency, obligation). Hence to remain chaste is Waajib (compulsory) and
wherever chastity is Waajib it becomes Waajib to refrain from that which is
contrary to it, for example, adultery, fornication, and sodomy. This is due
to the fact that obligatory chastity will not materialise except by complete
refrainment from all that which is contrary to chastity.
Secondly: in this Aayat, Allah Taãla has made chastity obligatory on those
who are unable to execute the command of Nikah. Here Allah Taãla has not
determined any connection or link between marriage and chastity. Hence, this
demands that masturbation should be Haraam. And if assuming, it was
permissible, then Allah Taãla would have mentioned it at this point because
this was the place of explanation. The silence maintaned by Allah Taãla with
regard to it at a place which requires its explanation, denotes that
masturbation is Haraam.
Imaam Qurtubi (RA) has written in the Tafseer of this Aayat: 'And when Allah
Taãla has not determined any order between Nikah and chastity, then this
shows that besides these two, everything else is Haraam. However, this
Hurmat (unlawfulness) does not include slave-girls because another command
of the Qurãn makes them Mubaah (permissible), viz.
‘That which the right-hands earn (i.e. slave-girls).’ Hence, in this manner
an addition of slave-girl has come. Masturbation, however still remains
Haraam.
‘Those who seek beyond this (i.e. wives and slave-girls) are transgressors.’
(Maãrij 31)
Under the Tafseer of this Aayat, Qaadhi Thanaullah Paani Patti writes:
‘Imaam Baghawi has deduced from this Aayat that masturbation is Haraam.’
PROOFS FROM AHAADITH
Similarly, the Fuqahaa have drawn their conclusion from a Hadith reported
by Abdullah bin Masóod (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) in Bukhari and Muslim. He reports
that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said, ‘O group of youth!
Whoever from among you can marry should do so because it keeps the gaze low
and it protects the private parts. And he who cannot marry should make it
compulsory upon himself to fast because it breaks lust.’
Nabi (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) directed the person who is incapable of
bearing the burden on Nikah towards Sawm (fasting). If assuming,
masturbation was permissible, Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) would
have mentioned it at this point. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam)
however maintained silence. Hence, this indicates that masturbation is
Haraam because silence at the place of explanation gives the benefit of
restriction.
Some of the Fuqahaa have drawn their conclusion from a narration reported
by Hasan bin Arfah that Nabi (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said, 'Seven
persons are such that Allah will not look at them on the Day of Qiyaamat nor
will He purify them nor will He include them among the learned and Allah
will enter them into Jahannam. They will enter Jahannam first except for
those who repent. As those who repent Allah will accept their repentance.
A person who masturbates.
A person who performs the act of sodomy.
The person upon whom the act of sodomy is performed.
A perpetual drunkard.
The person who hits his parents so much that they appeal for help.
The person who harms his neighbours so much so that they curse him.
The person who commits adultery with his neighbour’s wife. (Ibn Katheer
vol. 5 p. 458)
Hadhrat Anas (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu
Álayhi Wasallam) said, 'The person who performs Nikah with his hands (i.e.
masturbates) is cursed. (Tafseer Mazhari vol. 12 p. 94)
SAYINGS OF OUR PIOUS PREDECESSORS WITH REGARD TO MASTURBATION
Saéed bin Jubayr (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu
Álayhi Wasallam) said, ‘Allah Taãla will inflict a punishment on a group of
people because they played with their private parts.’
Attaa (RA) says, ‘Some people will be resurrected in such a condition that
their hands will be pregnant, I think they are those who masturbate.’
and Allah Ta’ala Knows Best
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Source: is masturbation major sin or the minor sin?
Sadiyah
September 24, 2005, 4:01am
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Here’s another view:
Praise be to Allaah.
Masturbation (for both men and women) is haraam (forbidden) in Islam based on the following evidence:
First from the Qur’aan:
Imam Shafi’i stated that masturbation is forbidden based on the following verses from the Qur’aan (interpretation of the meaning):
“And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts). Except from their wives or (the captives and slaves) that their right hands possess, - for them, they are free from blame. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors.” 23.5-7 Here the verses are clear in forbidding all illegal sexual acts (including masturbation) except for the wives or that their right hand possess. And whoever seeks beyond that is the transgressor.
“And let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah enriches them of His bounty.” 24.33. This verse also clearly orders whoever does not have the financial means to marry to keep himself chaste and be patient in facing temptations (including masturbation) until Allah enriches them of His bounty.
Secondly, from the sunnah of the Prophet (peace be upon him):
Abdullaah ibn Mas’ood said, "We were with the Prophet while we were young and had no wealth whatsoever. So Allaah’s Messenger said, “O young people! Whoever among you can marry, should marry, because it helps him lower his gaze and guard his modesty (i.e. his private parts from committing illegal sexual intercourse etc.), and whoever is not able to marry, should fast, as fasting diminishes his sexual power.” Bukhari:5066. The hadeeth orders men who are not able to marry to fast despite the hardship encountered in doing so, and not to masturbate despite the ease with which it can be done.
There are additional evidences that can be cited to support this ruling on masturbation, but due to the limited space we will not go through them here. Allaah knows what is best and most correct.
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Source: Ruling on masturbation and how to cure the problem
Kaleem
September 24, 2005, 4:07am
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^ I am sorry Sadiayh but there is no refrence to masturbation in the above quoted ayath...Its the interpertation/view of one person...
Also Mr.Crescent, I think its very irresponsible to post and convey something with strong words as Haram without any solid backing/refrence......this is the same thing as martyrs will get 72 virgins...its not in quran but people will go to any length to convey it as the truth...we as muslims must do our homewrok and research the issues before presenting them to the rest of the world.
Sadiyah
September 24, 2005, 4:22am
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You’re correct. There is a difference of opinion over it. I posted as many different views as I could get hold of only for the sake of general knowledge. There are many who follow such views, so I thought it could be of use to them.
Re: Masturbation: Why its haraam?
Sadiyah all the views you posted were that masturbation is haraam.
Sadiyah
September 24, 2005, 4:47am
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PCG, check out post #23; it is sort of justifying it in case of a dire need.
Btw.. please feel free to post other views that you may have come across.
PaRi_Si
September 24, 2005, 5:47am
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I heard that its Makru.. not haraam.. It would be very unrealistic if it is.
Lajawab
September 24, 2005, 10:08am
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In light of the strongest Dalils presented, the Shanafi Madhab declares masturbation as Haram...
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is there any ayah or hadith says that masturbation is allowed in any circumstances?..all i can conclude by sadiyah's posts is that masturbation is forbidden (haraam)
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How can it be "haraam"? There is no punishment for it, and there is no explicit verse that asks you to keep away from it. There is no described punishment for it in hell either.
All that Sadiyah has posted is saying that at the most, it might be makruh. The Quranic verse tells you with what other people you are allowed to have intercourse with. Intercourse requires two people (or more). It gives the boundaries that you can't cross in intercourse. It has nothing to do with stimulating yourself - that's not intercourse.
The idea that masturbation is haraam actually comes from the Judeo-Christian faiths. Especially Christians - they're very much against it. So, we have this bias in our heads that masturbation must be evil.
In fact, you have a hadith that says you must do ablution after stimulating yourself. That tells me, that masturbation is okay. Otherwise where are the hadith that say that the Prophet said you can't do it AT ALL?
If anything, the evidence points to it being Makruh, but allowable if nothing else is working for you.
Sadiyah
September 24, 2005, 4:01pm
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In fact, you have a hadith that says you must do ablution after stimulating yourself. That tells me, that masturbation is okay. Otherwise where are the hadith that say that the Prophet said you can't do it AT ALL?
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Could you please post the hadith again. I may have overlooked it.
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If anything, the evidence points to it being Makruh, but allowable if nothing else is working for you.
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I agree. At least that's what I think the first fatwa is suggesting.
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so, is it ok to have it once every 3 days?
PaRi_Si
September 24, 2005, 5:27pm
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PyariCgudia:
How can it be “haraam”? There is no punishment for it, and there is no explicit verse that asks you to keep away from it. There is no described punishment for it in hell either.
All that Sadiyah has posted is saying that at the most, it might be makruh. The Quranic verse tells you with what other people you are allowed to have intercourse with. Intercourse requires two people (or more). It gives the boundaries that you can’t cross in intercourse. It has nothing to do with stimulating yourself - that’s not intercourse.
The idea that masturbation is haraam actually comes from the Judeo-Christian faiths. Especially Christians - they’re very much against it. So, we have this bias in our heads that masturbation must be evil.
In fact, you have a hadith that says you must do ablution after stimulating yourself. That tells me, that masturbation is okay. Otherwise where are the hadith that say that the Prophet said you can’t do it AT ALL?
If anything, the evidence points to it being Makruh, but allowable if nothing else is working for you.
Agreed
Lajawab
September 24, 2005, 5:35pm
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dope
September 24, 2005, 8:03pm
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???
→ it is that time of the week. I am all moody and cranky.
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i meant "do it" lol...i said "have it" in a sense of having sex..
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Sadiyah:
This hadith:
Touching the sexual organ without any "barrier" between the hand and the organ: Busrah bint Safwan narrated that the Prophet, upon whom be peace, said, "Whoever touches his sexual organ cannot pray until he performs ablution."
Posted in the original poster. My commentary on it followed soon after.
dope
September 24, 2005, 11:09pm
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The above hadith, even if true, is vague since it doesn't address the context of why someone is touching "his sexual organ." He could be touching it after urinating, or during having sex with his wife, or for any other reasons (applying medicine).
All this hadith does is explain what to do after touching your organ, but doesnt address the act that makes you do it.
Weak hadith to either validate or invalidate beating the meat.
PCG, based on your logic, there is a hadith or verse that states that you have to undergo 80 lashes after you commit pre-marital sex. Now, since 80 lashes are all you have to endure (parallel: you only have endure doing ablution), then pre-marital sex is okay (parallel: masturbation must be OK). So, if i may steal your wordings, "the recommondation for performing an ablution (or 80 lashes) presupposes that "masturbation"(or pre-marital sex) is permissable (sic).
The lengths you people will go to tailor it to your needs. :p
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PyariCgudia:
Sadiyah:
This hadith:
Touching the sexual organ without any “barrier” between the hand and the organ: Busrah bint Safwan narrated that the Prophet, upon whom be peace, said, “Whoever touches his sexual organ cannot pray until he performs ablution.”
Posted in the original poster. My commentary on it followed soon after.
i got my answer …but i wont take bath, ill rather wash my hands lol