I need your suggestions regarding this scenario of someone in my acquaintance. what if a married woman having a messed up married life with husband, gets into relationship with someone else who is married too, even though she has children as well? what if she cant get herself out of it despite trying? i need sincere suggestions
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What suggestion could you get other than ‘its religiously and morally wrong…and she should stop immediately’?
btw, did she get into a fling because she has a messed up marriage? or is her marriage messed up because of the fling?
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My question would be, why cannot she get out of it? And I am hoping you meant to ask about the relationship.
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What exactly has she tried to get herself out of it? Why hasn’t it worked?
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She invited the trouble for herself when she decided to get into something like this.
Do you need suggestion on how she can get out of it because she wants to? On what exactly do you need advice?
Why cant she get out of it? Is it because she is in pakistan and the man blackmailing her as is the norm in the pervy frustrated male population of this country or what exactly is it that is preventing her to get out of the mess she herself invited.
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Yeah that “despite trying” part makes no sense. Has she blocked his email, phone number, etc? Is she finding the thought of doing without him so difficult. It can be hard, but it’s not impossible. We eat, pig out, gorge ourselves with food throughout the year…food that we often times don’t even need because we’re truly not that hungry…food that is detrimental for our health…but when Ramadan comes…most of us are able to not only abstain from that food but also water for 10+ hours. That analogy shows that human beings are capable adjusting/adapting/changing their habits…if they persist against the temptation and push themselves.
There’s always a halal, decent way to go about doing things …that preserves your dignity in your own eyes…in the eyes of others…makes it easier to look yourself in the mirror. If your friend’s marriage is dysfunctional beyond repair and she wants “out”…then she should get a divorce…and then proceed to start something up with another man. That’s the proper, more decent way to go about it. Generally speaking…guys…and especially Desi guys …don’t marry women who have kids of their own. Has this “other man” given her any concrete guarantee that he will leave his wife and marry her…AND…accept her children as well? As uncomfortable as it is for almost any woman to be a second wife…has this guy even even said anything about a second marriage? If not…then the guy just wants his cake and he wants to eat it too. Your friend is the icing on top of that cake, I guess. If he doesn’t want to leave his wife and wants to get all that he can out of your friend…than she’s being used. And when that reality hits her like a ton of bricks, she will feel feel very hurt, very cheap, and foolish. She should respect and value herself first…as opposed to seeking that value in another person.
When you fall “in love/crush/whatever” with someone, much of your time is spent thinking about that person…or talking to them…or meeting them etc. When you try to make a genuine effort to “move on” from that person…you have occupy those minutes with activities that have nothing to do with that person. The time (seconds/minutes/hours) …that your friend spends thinking and interacting with this guy…could be spent on other things…like her spirituality (namaz/tasbeeh/quran). Ask her when was the last time that she really set some time for ibadah and prioritized Allah before ever relation and desire…and tried connecting with Him? Having a daily spiritual component helps to bring peace of mind, it helps to keep us emotionally anchored in difficult times, it diverts our mind temporarily from worldly problems, and it starts to shift our perspective on things. The seconds/minutes/hours…that your friend spends on Romeo…can also be spent on trying to strengthen her marriage…or HER KIDS…she can use that time to bond with her kids…to give them attention in areas where her kids are weak (academic for example)…it can be spent on trying to better herself…or in some event that gives back to society, etc etc etc.
So, if she wants to get over this “other guy”…she will have to block him …and readjust/re -prioritize her schedule and how she uses her time. If she wants “out” of her marriage, then she should leave her husband before taking on another guy. Hypothetically speaking…if she were to divorce her husband…but the other guy refuses to marry her…then he’s STILL a waste of her time and she would still have to undergo the process of cutting him out from her life and moving on from him…and that would STILL entail blocking him and readjusting time/schedule/priorities.
If your friend has not blocked him…has not made any changes in how she uses her time…then she’s just bull-chitting when she says she can’t move on from him. She either isn’t trying hard enough or she really doesn’t want to give up her new found addiction.
Now if this other guy is blackmailing her with threats that he’ll expose her affair should she leave him…then yikes. In that case…he cannot do so…without screwing himself over too and she should keep the evidence of his role in this affair as well.
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Sometimes women get blackmailed and are not allowed to move on.
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They should be sincere with their partners.
Messed up marriage or not, this is just exacerbating the situation.
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she had a messed up marriage. an abusive husband ho has no shame in mentally n physically abusing her
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Then she should get out of the marriage before having a fling. Because that fling, once discovered, is not going to help her case at all, and she may have a hard time fighting for her kids.
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i needed suggestions as i cant suggest anything to her being a very sensitive issue. her marriage is messed up since day 1. her husband abuses her mentally n physically in front of children. He had no concerns with their children as well. not supporting enough financially or by other means. her relationship with other guy is not physical n just limited to communicate on phone n meeting often. she had been tortured to much that she had to find a vent out of herself. as tolerating all this with patience, even did not bring any positive change in her husband. basically she was drained to the extent , if she could not get along with other guy, probably she would have ended up committing suicide. she used to be very religious. she still feel that that she is doing wrong n it continuosly pinch herself. divorce is not an option as there are many other issues involved. but still shes considering to go for it. the guy shes involved with a decent person. he respect her and knows all the crisis shes going through n make her up very well by listening to her n being sincere to her. he would never blackmail her neither he would marry her if she takes divorce as he is bound by his own spouse n kids. my friend tried to limit the contact with that guy but it seems impossible to her now to get out of it. whenever she tries doing so she find herself sinking into deep depression… i needed suggestions on how she could move on? there are no chances that her husband will make up with her n things would be fine. is it ok to carry on this relation? how the other guy could b convinced to marry her in case she manage to take divorce? how can she do it so that she dont have to face much social pressure? its kinda messed up matter.
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If the guy she is involved with is such a decent person then he would have married her and accepted her children as his own knowing all about her terrible marriage. And I am unable to understand what is keeping her with her husband if he is all that you mentioned.
Her only solution is to get out of that abusive mess. Save herself, save her children. Marry some human next time or not marry at all. But this guy if he is not willing to provide her and her children any support then she must end this fling as soon as she can. It’s completely wrong.
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So who says she needs to move on, your first priority is self perseverance, saying 3 words to a monster is not a license for him to enslave and abuse a person. I think she should cherish the only thing that brings some comfort in her life. A monster does not deserve fidelity. This is the mindset that has encouraged horrendous abuse in society.
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What about the other guy’s wife? Does she know about his extra-curricular activities? Is it fair that her husband’s attention is directed towards a woman that’s not her?
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I think your friend ought to consider divorce if things are so bad. As for maintaining contact with the other guy (let’s call him guy B), I think it’s a bad idea because the guy is married and has kids. I think she ought to think of guy B’s family also. His marriage might not be bad at all.
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Hmmm…I didn’t think about that, good point Saeed. When you are married to a cheater then he will cheat regardless, if she goes away he will find someone else. I have seen that many times. The way to fight abusive men who treat women like dirt is to find someone who will appreciate them.
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Well my $0.02 are either live together with love, respect and honesty or leave. The excuse of having childern while valid to an extent is not enough to stay in a toxic relationship, have affairs and mess up life in this world and hereafter.
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But the women there have hardly any rights in a divorce situation, they don’t get part of property, custody stuff is in mans favor, there is no alimony or child support. It is hard for women to find employment. It is a lot easier to walk away when the law protects you.
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You’re in the wrong cause you cheated, so it’d be better to get a divorce. There’s no way a relationship can last after someone cheats, even if it wasn’t sexual.