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You guys are more than welcome not to agree with me, but saying that I am playing Allah is the most immature comment I have ever heard.
funny I don't see that I said that anywhere on what I wrote :)
what I mean is that you can't say one is graver when it probably didn't even exist back then.
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funny I don't see that I said that anywhere on what I wrote :) .
and that is why edited my comment before you even posted your comment Kakee :)
and by the way, the sin of "aankhon ka zina" existed back then. It involves watching and enjoying anything that is vulgar, a dance, a picture, a live act of indecent exposure (hence even a recorded act as in videos)
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funny I don't see that I said that anywhere on what I wrote :) what I mean is that you can't say one is graver when it probably didn't even exist back then.
hi jst wanted to leave a quick comment, i am sure more knowledgeable people may be able to elaborate, but a lot of differnt things come to the fore which were not present in the time of the Prophet.
in Islam there are provisions whereby eminent scholars and Muslims can use their reasoning in light of islamic law to come to a conclusion.
ijma and ijtehad to name two
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I didn't know porn existed when the Qur'an was written ;o how can one say that one is a graver sin then the other even though they aren't Allah?
maybe not porn videos, but some of the most frequently excavated manuscripts in roman ruins in egypt etc is porn fiction/erotic literature. no joke.
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^ even pre-islamic arab poetry was quite vulgar in nature
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ok all muslim posters tell me what is bigger sin zina aur taking interest on money?
I think taking interest on money is a bigger sin because in Qur'an Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala says that He is at war with whoever is involved in riba.
and Allah knows best
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isn’t riba usury? how is usury the same as a fair-market interest rate? 
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so ur syaing that its ok to watch porn? 
i thought the question by the OP was, why do married men do it… not whether its ok or not (which I dont think is ok)
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Oh jee, I have not done research in this area. :D But I can tell you that women aren't as masoom as we believe them to be. I was reading an article in an Indian News Magazine about how these wealthy housewives have afternoon "fun" with their male servants. It's quite disgusting to know what all goes on these days. I mean, it would be nicer of they just watched porn I think. So the thing is, a sin is a sin. And there are many types of sins and levels of sins. I guess what we need to do is stop blaming one particular gender. We are ALL guilty of something, be it backbiting at its worst, lying, watching porn, stealing neighbor's water hose...whatever.
i dont think the thread was about blame... but about understanding why men who potray themselves as the namazi type, indulge in this type of behaviour.
There is no doubt women indulge as well... no doubt at all. But the question wasnt in relation to that :)
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I thought riba is interest....
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Once i asked a married guy, you are married now, you can do stuff in a decent way(halal) then why do you still watch porn? According to his philosophy: watching a porn is a totally different intoxication which can't be compared with physical one ;)
You got it right sadzzz
so ur syaing that its ok to watch porn?
i thought the question by the OP was, why do married men do it… not whether its ok or not (which I dont think is ok)
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Hold on a sec.
What if a wifey wants to make a mini porn film for her husband?
I guess my question is, is it worse because he's watching other women doing sexy stuff, or is it the actual act of watching porn that's worse?
hahahaha. I love you for this.
Also, I LOVE how people overreact :)
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Hold on a sec.
What if a wifey wants to make a mini porn film for her husband?
I guess my question is, is it worse because he's watching other women doing sexy stuff, or is it the actual act of watching porn that's worse?
Peace MH,
It is ok to watch wife's porn video, if and only if it does not lead him to the point of self enjoyment.
P.S. What I wrote above is worst case and I will not recommend it to anyone unless sever condition.
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Since it's socially acceptable that makes it okay? Only a mad man would watch porn in front of his mum, what his mum doesn't know won't hurt her. Besides, it's not like most mums don't know their teenage boys get up to no good in their rooms.
The post was referring to married men and not teenage boys.
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Where did I say that sadzz?
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Shouldn't a thread about gheebat be opened if you want to talk about that?
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ultimately we should not point out and/or discuss the sins of another person until and unless we are free from sin ourselves so in a way TLK is right........however, if somebody is asking a question to better understand why something is happening for the purpose of perhaps eliminating it then I don't see the harm in the question. Nor do I understand why such a question must draw replies advising him/her that such and such a sin is bigger than the one you mention.......
at least a couple of people, including khawateen, have tried to provide a reasonable answer.
my opinion on the matter:
I believe that this is like an intoxication that is difficult for certain people to give up. So even after they are married and have access to a ja'iz means for satisfaction, they still regress to this activity.
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May be because those men are unsatisfied and nothing would satisfy them because they're selfish. Only if they cared more about giving pleasure rather than seeking it.
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^ but you do end up giving more pleausre after seeing it...:P