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So your problem in this case is not that this guy was abusing the girl, but that he was having sex with her. Huh
And since you are in law enforcement, i wonder how many women that have been trafficked into sex trade in Canada you have rescued.
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Wow Dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!RAPE IS NOT SEX...........
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And why anyone in their right mind want to force themselves into a girl....married or not? and justify their actions?. That is the basic question.
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So your problem in this case is not that this guy was abusing the girl, but that he was having sex with her. Huh
And since you are in law enforcement, i wonder how many women that have been trafficked into sex trade in Canada you have rescued.
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Wow Dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!RAPE IS NOT SEX...........
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Then what is it?
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And why anyone in their right mind want to force themselves into a girl....married or not? and justify their actions?. That is the basic question.
Could be the chick was married to this old flabby Dude made out of Jell-O, she was emotionally blackmailed/forced to be with him, the dude is a Jerk maybe and no on wants him and the only way he is getting laid is by raping the chick..
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I most certainly do believe that women are Gods gift to man kind, Chrstanity lslam and Judaism do too and society in general does also, try being a Mom, might end up changing your views a bit...
Why do you feel the need to bring up motherhood in a discussion on sex? Sure you can say a mother is Gods gift to her child but I was talking in context of a sexual relationship. A woman is no more a Gods gift to a man than vice versa in a sexual and relationship context because, as you put it, women want sex equally. But your commentary implies that you view sex as something a man has to earn from a woman; a gift women bestow upon men; something that women need to be persuaded for.
You're blaming women's lack of interest in sex completely on a man's lack of persuading them and 'winning them over' on a daily basis, none of which are required when a woman is genuinely attracted to a man and I've seen those kind of relationships.
Why are you ignoring the more fundamental and commonplace reason which is that women are often disingenuous and make questionable choices by marrying men they have little sexual interest in? (and consequently sex is a low priority for them)
I mentioned this in the previous post but you didn't want to touch it with a bargepole.
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Uzair, maybe you should be asking the parents of the girls that lol
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Uzair, maybe you should be asking the parents of the girls that lol
Short and sweet...give them the freedom to choose in the quasi arranged (forced thru threats and black mail) marriage. Also a big likelihood that the girl will become the mother of the mans child, she gets tired due to arduous under taking of house and baby..It is the man that goes on the knees to ask her hand, man is the proposer and woman selector, I am a free spirit and believe me wherever I go I see dudes pursuing chicks..handsome, strong well mannered, cultured and confident men treating women with respect and requesting a pleasure of their company...never been lonely in my life....don't have to rely on forced licenses to rape...
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Uzair, maybe you should be asking the parents of the girls that lol
So those girls who marry based on their choice always find their men attractive after marriage or these girls marry those men only for their looks to begin with?
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So those girls who marry based on their choice always find their men attractive after marriage or these girls marry those men only for their looks to begin with?
Did I even say that?
Am not interested in going round and round in circles with someone who constantly baits and twists ppls words.. Go and find someone else to annoy..
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Why do you feel the need to bring up motherhood in a discussion on sex? Sure you can say a mother is Gods gift to her child but I was talking in context of a sexual relationship. A woman is no more a Gods gift to a man than vice versa in a sexual and relationship context because, as you put it, women want sex equally. But your commentary implies that you view sex as something a man has to earn from a woman; a gift women bestow upon men; something that women need to be persuaded for.
You're blaming women's lack of interest in sex completely on a man's lack of persuading them and 'winning them over' on a daily basis, none of which are required when a woman is genuinely attracted to a man and I've seen those kind of relationships.
Why are you ignoring the more fundamental and commonplace reason which is that women are often disingenuous and make questionable choices by marrying men they have little sexual interest in? (and consequently sex is a low priority for them)
I mentioned this in the previous post but you didn't want to touch it with a bargepole.
Yes.
Somehow women have been taught that they do need to be won over, and that can be imagined prior to marriage, but why take this tradition in to a marriage?
Did I even say that?
Am not interested in going round and round in circles with someone who constantly baits and twists ppls words.. Go and find someone else to annoy..
Then why find excuse of 'arranged marriage by parents' for those women who show lack of sexual interest for their husbands? :)
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Uzair, maybe you should be asking the parents of the girls that lol
Short and sweet...give them the freedom to choose in the quasi arranged (forced thru threats and black mail) marriage.
You're saying that women who arent forced by parents, dont marry men they arent sexually attracted to?
Lets get real. The majorty of 'unoppressed' desi women are married to guys they wouldnt have crapped upon if they were looking for a lover. Its about women's own priorities in most cases.
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..It is the man that goes on the knees to ask her hand, man is the proposer and woman selector, I am a free spirit and believe me wherever I go I see dudes pursuing chicks..handsome, strong well mannered, cultured and confident men treating women with respect and requesting a pleasure of their company...never been lonely in my life...
Correction: Handsome, strong, confident men also get pursued by women.
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You're saying that women who arent forced by parents, dont marry men they arent sexually attracted to?
Lets get real. The majorty of 'unoppressed' desi women are married to guys they wouldnt have crapped upon if they were looking for a lover. Its about women's own priorities in most cases.
Most women given the choice would obviously choose someone they're attracted to and by extension would want to be intimate with.. that's common sense.. Desi women do tend to value security and other issues like family background more than simple attraction and 'chemistry' but what you've said is extreme..
Most couples who've dated (desi and non-desi) will be attracted to each other (even Muslim couples who've been seeing each other but not slept together yet)..
Here in the West the reality is that the average women who's working full-time doesn't need to be 'looked after' and doesn't need to please her family so much so attraction is usually the base on which other qualities are added and the relationship is built.. Many have moved out before marriage, bought their own cars and so on.. If we're talking about desperate women or gold-diggers of course the reality is different..
I'm obviously married and all the girls I know around me are with men they're attracted to in some way.. As someone who's not married and apparently never been in a relationship I'd love to know where your ideas of what's going on inside the mind of women are coming from because for someone with no experience you seem to think you know a lot about the subject..
(Diwana is on ignore so I'm not going to answer his post and get involved in a neverending back-and-forth)
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Correction: Handsome, strong, confident men also get pursued by women.
And some people find love staring at the mirror and are the only one that believe that they are such a catch, mostly people who are full of themselves are people who have the least reason to be full of themselves. The most insecure guy in the room is also the loudest
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Most women given the choice would obviously choose someone they're attracted to and by extension would want to be intimate with.. that's common sense.. Desi women do tend to value security and other issues like family background more than simple attraction and 'chemistry' but what you've said is extreme..
Most couples who've dated (desi and non-desi) will be attracted to each other (even Muslim couples who've been seeing each other but not slept together yet)..
Here in the West the reality is that the average women who's working full-time doesn't need to be 'looked after' and doesn't need to please her family so much so attraction is usually the base on which other qualities are added and the relationship is built.. Many have moved out before marriage, bought their own cars and so on.. If we're talking about desperate women or gold-diggers of course the reality is different..
I'm obviously married and all the girls I know around me are with men they're attracted to in some way.. As someone who's not married and apparently never been in a relationship I'd love to know where your ideas of what's going on inside the mind of women are coming from because for someone with no experience you seem to think you know a lot about the subject..
(Diwana is on ignore so I'm not going to answer his post and get involved in a neverending back-and-forth)
I luv your post, insecurity can be so painful, some times moms make the boyz believe that they are such a catch, delusions are entertaining.
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Deeba
Here's the short answer. I didnt mean to talk in absolutes as far as desi women in west are concerned. What I wanted to say was that the majority of them are married to men they would'nt have deemed attractive enough for a short term fling.
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Correction: Handsome, strong, confident men also get pursued by women.
And some people find love staring at the mirror and are the only one that believe that they are such a catch, mostly people who are full of themselves are people who have the least reason to be full of themselves. The most insecure guy in the room is also the loudest
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Ok. They dont get pursued by women. They must be delusional if they claim to be.
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Short and sweet...give them the freedom to choose in the quasi arranged (forced thru threats and black mail) marriage. Also a big likelihood that the girl will become the mother of the mans child, she gets tired due to arduous under taking of house and baby..It is the man that goes on the knees to ask her hand, man is the proposer and woman selector, I am a free spirit and believe me wherever I go I see dudes pursuing chicks..handsome, strong well mannered, cultured and confident men treating women with respect and requesting a pleasure of their company../QUOTE] and then leave them alone and move on to greener pastures. No wonder 1/3rd of all births in US are to single women, women giving birth to kids of men, who will not commit to a lasting relationship with them nor want to contribute or take responsibility.
Women with men who love them, commit to them and their family are much better off.
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Most women given the choice would obviously choose someone they're attracted to and by extension would want to be intimate with.. that's common sense.. Desi women do tend to value security and other issues like family background more than simple attraction and 'chemistry' but what you've said is extreme..
Most couples who've dated (desi and non-desi) will be attracted to each other (even Muslim couples who've been seeing each other but not slept together yet)..
Here in the West the reality is that the average women who's working full-time doesn't need to be 'looked after' and doesn't need to please her family so much so attraction is usually the base on which other qualities are added and the relationship is built.. Many have moved out before marriage, bought their own cars and so on.. If we're talking about desperate women or gold-diggers of course the reality is different..
I'm obviously married and all the girls I know around me are with men they're attracted to in some way.. As someone who's not married and apparently never been in a relationship I'd love to know where your ideas of what's going on inside the mind of women are coming from because for someone with no experience you seem to think you know a lot about the subject..
(Diwana is on ignore so I'm not going to answer his post and get involved in a neverending back-and-forth)
Its a myth that wives have long lasting attraction to husbands (or vice versa) in marriages based on attraction.
Deeba once again brought something which can easily be refuted. No hard work required. :D
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Short and sweet...give them the freedom to choose in the quasi arranged (forced thru threats and black mail) marriage. Also a big likelihood that the girl will become the mother of the mans child, she gets tired due to arduous under taking of house and baby..It is the man that goes on the knees to ask her hand, man is the proposer and woman selector, I am a free spirit and believe me wherever I go I see dudes pursuing chicks..handsome, strong well mannered, cultured and confident men treating women with respect and requesting a pleasure of their company../QUOTE] and then leave them alone and move on to greener pastures. No wonder 1/3rd of all births in US are to single women, women giving birth to kids of men, who will not commit to a lasting relationship with them nor want to contribute or take responsibility. Women with men who love them, commit to them and their family are much better off.