Re: Marital Rape......
In the western world marital rape is considered a serious crime and** in some eastern culture forcing your will on your partner seems acceptable,** my personal view is that it is a horrible crime and no means no....comments please
[quote="diwana"]
With respect you have very wrong ideas at many levels.
In marriage relation, both partners do have rights on and obligations/duties to, each others.
*In marital relation, one cannot say its my body or sex is not a duty. Period.
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The very idea of considering sex in marriage as a duty is fundamentally wrong.
Both partners have to be willing to give each other pleasure/happiness in every possible way including sexual gratification.
There is no such thing in marital relation as my space and your space.
When they agree to live with each other they better leave their egos behind and live like more than friends
YOU have rights to property not to person and reading a lot of posts sadly I feels that a lot of people still consider women as property, as a married man you have the right to win her over everyday, you can't be ignorant towards her all day and go open sesame a night, women are sexual beings also and if they refuse you is it possible that the problem might be your behavior, the top reasons sighted by women for saying no were that they were tired, husbands were rude toward them, they did not feel connected.
If only life was so simple, my simple diwana. sometimes marriage needs fixing and work, they are saying no until you work on your marriage
** and relationship,
**perhaps stop being rude, look after your body and hygiene, a friend of mine did not get any for years after he cheated on his wife, they worked on the problem and now have a happy relationship.
*If it was easy in Pakistan for girls to get divorced
they would leave their husbands more often.
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Here in Canada Pakistani girls are getting the husbands arrested regularly and divorcing them.
There is no acceptance in at least Pakistani or Muslim culture to accept a man forcing a woman even if she is his wife in to sexual activity.
And certainly not any different than any other society where men would be considered wrong in doing so.
That is where you have been wrong along.
You have a twisted idea of eastern versus western culture.
In Iran women have the power exactly the same as you are talking about Canada where a man can be turned to authorities if he misbehaves physically. Ask an Iranian where at least 24 hours/Overnight are spent by aggressive physically abused men.
Off course not all cases are reported and not all reported cases are true.
It is not that Pakistanis or Muslims are all alone in this mindset and your biased posts make it look like it is a common practice among Pakistanis or Muslims.
Learn to have a balanced mind.
Please get educated as well.
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Your whole thread is wrongful, irrational with emotionally charged statements and hateful to Pakistanis and Islam.**
You are not the only one who posts ludicrous ideas like marital rape and try to include everything including emotional abuse in this term to make it inflated and a huge social issue when it may not be.
Even a moderator or other posters got confused above and tried to include all sort of abuses in to one term as "marital rape".
You said you have right to property and not to person.
Really?
Do you really know what rights over someone actually means in a marriage?
Funny that so called modern world worshipers like you keep talking about marriage is about sharing and caring but on the other hand just to destroy marital relation between Muslims and Pakistanis etc. they bring these kind of terms to make women doubtful of their responsibilities and selectively focus how they should be handled with care with selfish behavior.
It is very obvious you you are not fpr harmony in between husband and wife.
All along you have been acting very typical of a femanazi despite many others including myself talked about responsibilities and rights of both to make a marriage successfully happy.
Sky will not fall and earth will not shatter if wife (or the husband) despite her/him "not being in mood" still manages to somehow give sexual pleasure to her husband/wife.
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Using the excuse of "not being in mood" by itself is a selfish term.**
Not being in mood to please your husband???
Same goes for the husband, it is his duty to satisfy his wife sexually and not use any excuse.
That is what real loving husbands/wives do. (Along with other activities so spare me from going tangential here)
P.S. I hope you are mature enough that I do not have to give you a (private) lecture how husbands and wives still can please each other despite not being in mood themselves.
If only they have respect to each others needs, we may not see few related issues and problems.
