Majazi Khuda

[CorruptAngel]

@Majazi_Khuda

You have a very wrong concept of the religion of Islam. To prostrate before Allah is not the respect of Allah’s oneness, to follow his orders is the respect of Allah’s oneness. When Allah ordered Angles to bow in front of Adam, the one who refused (with pretty much the same reason that is given in your post) is now called Satan. Religion is about following orders, not about pick and chose.

They were ‘Angels’ not ‘Insan’, human are superior to other ‘makhlooq’ that God has created. The problem with your question is that it contradicts the whole concept and belief system of Islam. Allah NEVER asked humans to prostrate before other human beings so it would be pointless to even think about such a thing.

Human were created to Worship Allah and Him alone and prostrating is a form of worship so I can never think of myself of worshipping a human. I would not believe in such a religion.

[chanda_kh]

Re: Majazi Khuda

off topic:
wudu in the Quran
5:6
Salat: not only did Hazrat Abraham offered Salat, but the Tareeqa of Salat was practiced DURING Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)'s life, unlike the authenticity of other texts people claim to be religious…

i agree with funguy and others…please try not to mix things up.

readers are being mislead, the OP is quoting a hadeeth about our Prophet (pbuh) NOT ALLAH’s hypothetical order.

[Niksik]

@Pareezay

I meant in terms of caring and loving for each other. The wife isn’t the only person who is suppose to give all that she has, the husband needs to be equally loving and respectful.

Correct.

[Monk]

Re: Majazi Khuda

You know what MK I have answer for you.

1-women’s only JOB is to comfort her husband and make a family. She can refuse doing every thing else.
2-She can ask for compensation for feeding man’s child.
3-She can ask for divorce.
4-She can ask for money after divorce.

Well I don’t see any one having such a relation with God.. where we are given so many options.

Even you cal man a M-khuda … women still got it pretty good.

and beside what the fun being god with no powers???

[funguy]

@Niksik

Not same exactly…like a wife cannot give talaaq, she can take khulaa which is slightly different. Just one example.

This khula thingy only exists in Pakistani courts. There is no such thing as Khula in the Quran. I think either woman or man can have talaq.

[Mehnaz]

@Monk

Women can get right of divorce if they want.
Its on nikahnama. Its a whole contract thingie.. ppl don’t bother to read it.

That right is often taken away by husbands on the nikkahnama. Another reason for parents and wives to be aware of what they are signing when getting married.

[Niksik]

Re: Majazi Khuda

I don’t agree with that. However even if you are right funguy, I can’t be going up to my hubby and throwing the words “talaaq” 3 times! It ain’t gonna work.

[Majazi_Khuda]

@geek

Before going any further, your first duty as a muslim is to provide the source if you are going to have these urges to speak on behalf of Prophet Muhammad SAW. .

Thanks for reminding me of my duty, I agree you are right. I should quote the source first

III. Prostrating out of respect:
Abu Hurayrah reports that when Muadh ibn Jabal returned from Sham, he came to the Prophet (sallallahu alahi wa salam) and prostrated before him, saying that he had seen the people of Sham prostrating in respect to their monks, and that the Messenger (sallallahu alahi wa salam) deserved greater respect than what Muadh had seen the people of Sham give to their monks. The Prophet (sallallahu alahi wa salam) replied, "Were I to have commanded anyone to prostrate to anyone, I would have commanded the wife to prostrate to her husband. [At-Tirmidhi]

[Pareezay]

Re: Majazi Khuda

And a wife has right over her husband’s money but he cannot spend even a penny of hers without permission. Or that’s what I heard at the last khutbah. Someone please correct if that’s wrong.

[Monk]

@Niksik

I don’t agree with that. However even if you are right funguy, I can’t be going up to my hubby and throwing the words “talaaq” 3 times! It ain’t gonna work.

I wouldnt do that… what If some one had checked to box “wife can divorce” at nikkah time??

then we would have a bigger problem to deal with.

[Majazi_Khuda]

@funguy

This khula thingy only exists in Pakistani courts. There is no such thing as Khula in the Quran. I think either woman or man can have talaq.

Khula is an Islamic ruling, a right given to any woman to part away from her husband if needed and is as real as Talaq. It is not something that Pakistani Courts cooked up.

[Niksik]

@Monk

I wouldnt do that… what If some one had checked to box “wife can divorce” at nikkah time??

then we would have a bigger problem to deal with.

you bet!

[funguy]

@Majazi_Khuda

Khula is an Islamic ruling, a right given to any woman to part away from her husband if needed and is as real as Talaq. It is not something that Pakistani Courts cooked up.

Yes it is. See if a woman wants khula for 100 rupee, she can go ask the shopkeeper but when she wants to get rid of her lousy husband, she can file for talaq.

[geek]

@Majazi_Khuda

Thanks for reminding me of my duty, I agree you are right. I should quote the source first

So you could not find it in Bukhari could you? Tirmidhi is not Bukhari. You get an F.

And that’s not how you quote a source. You quote from the original source, with proper link, the word ‘tirmidhi’ within parenthesis doesn’t cut it. I say you go back and learn the basic rules of engagement as a muslim first, till then keep your urges to use religion for self-serving purposes in check.

Amateurs I tell you.

III. Prostrating out of respect:
Abu Hurayrah reports that when Muadh ibn Jabal returned from Sham, he came to the Prophet (sallallahu alahi wa salam) and prostrated before him, saying that he had seen the people of Sham prostrating in respect to their monks, and that the Messenger (sallallahu alahi wa salam) deserved greater respect than what Muadh had seen the people of Sham give to their monks. The Prophet (sallallahu alahi wa salam) replied, "Were I to have commanded anyone to prostrate to anyone, I would have commanded the wife to prostrate to her husband. [At-Tirmidhi]

[Niksik]

Re: Majazi Khuda

funguy @ the khula for soh rupya!!!

However, khula is allowed under the shariah. I just checked with an aalima and a family member did take khula a couple of years ago after consultation with a mufti. I think they are more qualified than you and I put together, no ?

[funguy]

Re: Majazi Khuda

MK, shame on you. AiwaiN hee bichaaray Bukhari saab ko mis-quote kiya.

Buhat buri baat hay…jaao abb konay mai kharray ho jao moo dossri taraf ker kay. Aagaya sajda kerwaanay. :oonh:

[funguy]

@Niksik

funguy @ the khula for soh rupya!!!

However, khula is allowed under the shariah. I just checked with an aalima and a family member did take khula a couple of years ago after consultation with a mufti. I think they are more qualified than you and I put together, no ?

lol

What I am saying is that woman has equal right to divorce a husband in the form of Talaq. There is no lesser form of tallaaqing in khula. But our men influenced mullah brigade has created this khula to make it difficult for women to get rid of them.

[Niksik]

Re: Majazi Khuda

Lesser form yeh hai kay we can’t get instant talaaq…we have to go through a longer process :hinna:

[funguy]

@Niksik

Lesser form yeh hai kay we can’t get instant talaaq…we have to go through a longer process :hinna:

Yehi tau may arz ker rahah oon kay in actual it is the same process for men and women but sharia authors changed it.

[Decent_6Chora]

@funguy

lol

What I am saying is that woman has equal right to divorce a husband in the form of Talaq. There is no lesser form of tallaaqing in khula. But our men influenced mullah brigade has created this khula to make it difficult for women to get rid of them.

I think Khula is still a shariee way by default but what our Qazi Sahabs has done (on talaq front) is that they “cross” that term by themselves where it says “will wife have a right to talaofy husband” …its not even queried or discussed.