i can soooooo relate to that :hinna: when i go to Pakistan for holidays, i feel like i’m in a 5 star resort…not a third-world country, for me life here is sooooo much more stressful and difficult at times 
not referring to just the cooking/cleaning aspect but the lack of family support and help which counts for a lot for eg. my toddler is sick with a cold today and in addition to the housework i have my pre-schooler to pick/drop from school, since im new to the city i don’t know of any trustworthy baby-sitters/domestic help (don’t trust them alone with kids anyways) thus juggling like crazy…thats the way it is here, no one to really share the load with 
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aray aray ab tau jitna maids ka khayal rakha jata hai i think they dont want to be anything else m sorry if am being rude but they r like always asking for stuff and not basic neceesaties but luxiorious items....anyways i think karachi has the best maids am really impressde by their work as i saw them at my cousin's place n they were like perfectttttt i wish we had them in islamabad :( we pay them n all but hafto do 85% of work by ourself!
oh the maids topic reminded me of a very funny but REAL situation -
1 house - 1 maid, other boss - SWITCHED! (due to situation) - ouch I know....
Indian lady #1 was the BOSS of the Indian lady #2 - BACK in India
Here in USA:
The Lady #2 is the BOSS of the lady # 1 who is now her maid!!!!!!!
These two ladies were at different times a BOSS and a MAID to each other!
Luckily the Boss # 1 was nice to her maid and she gets the same respect from her boss now :D
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^This pretty much sums it all up. You never know where life will take you.
We had a maid back in Pakistan. I was only 11 yrs old but I remember that my mom, me and my siblings used to help her out equally. If she would broom, my mom would sweep and my siblings and I would dust. She was an old lady and was very poor so my mom wanted her to have some source of income...I miss her, very nice and honest lady.
so you hire once a week? How much does it cost? and how many hours? What are their responsibilities if it's just for one day?
I mean, for me one day would just be for dusting off every corner of your home...
but what about the everyday stuff starting from: 1) picking/folding up you sheets 2) making up you bed 3) Preparing breakfast 4) Preparing lunch for kids and hubby to take for school and job 5) Morning dishes 6) Vacumming 7) Mopping 8) Sweeping 9) Clean up bathroom after everyone's done with shower
These are just early morning chores - WHILE you are GETTING READY to GO TO work !
I LOVE to have a clean home to COME BACK to - it relaxes me at the end of the day... but cleaning all of this everyday is simply becoming a maid machine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So unfair is life over here.
Look for one day they can only clean windows,bath tubs (I don't wash them every day) doors,walls ,fans so I usually call them once a mnth rest as you said we have to do it every day. :(
If u can afford to have maids I think u should, and I also think u should make sure they know not to over step the mark, when I was in Pakisten the maid was like tryin to sit and have cosy conversations wid my mum, and I was like
mum u pay her to work and she is just sittin on her arse,
the chores were left.
she was there to wash our clothes and clean the house from top to toe, we wanted to do the cooking ourselves.
and I was bein really nice to her daughter next thing u know, she was tryin 2 b my friend she’s like what film r u watchin can I watch it wid u??
and I was like emmm ok , and then when I was listenin to english music she was like askin proper annoyin questions and I had to start tellin her to leave me alone, I needed my own space ( she was there to help her mum )
and once my clothes were on the line and her mums like can u leave them for my daughter, when u leave, and my mum was like there poor so give them, some of your things and I was like WHATEVER (I had lost my gold chain, and her daughter had been in my room) and then the mum was askin for underwear, and stuff and I told my mum that I have had enough of them, I proberly act like a snob, but I had reasons I tried to be nice at first, but they over stepped the mark!!
^ yes your behavior seems snobbish :CareBear:
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yeeh it proberly does, but trust me they were proper startin to take the piss!!
yeeh it proberly does, but trust me they were proper startin to take the piss!!
yes some of them do take advantage of boss's good or simple nature. so it is true somestimes you have to make sure that they know there place so they don't start dancing on your head. soemtimes that will include sternely and harshly talking to them.
so i don't think reprimanding them harshly if it is justified is wrong like some people here are saying. but i guess there is a fine line between justifiable reprimanding and unfair treatment. hard to decide where this line should be drawn.
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We did everything on own all our lives and still do. The problem now is sometimes we get so caught up with work, school, volunteering, etc etc etc. My room looks like a hurricane hit it in the morning. I go through ten outfits before I make up my mind!!!
I do have a cleaning lady who takes care of things around the house a few times a week because I dnt want my mom to do it. The woman is actually pretty sweet, hardworking and trustworthy. My sisters hire her for their homes too and she has been cleaning for us for a few years now. Im gone for the majority of the day and my mom WILL clean the house with a toothbrush if someone else doesnt, lol.
thats easier said that done...and its not limited to pakistan only..dont u guys have day care centres/baby sitters abroad? some even have house helps really depends on if u can afford them or not since they r quite expensive there and rightly so. Having said that, i still do think one should not get dependent on anyone BUT still a little help here and there doesnt harm. And child labour is a strict NO NO!!!.
What you mean easy done, even when I was visiting pakistan before marriage, I would clean the floors and do the dusting myself.
We do have a kindergarten here but that because I work and need it.
House help is not about being expensive, its not that expensive to have them once a week, but we are just used to doing our stuff ourselves.
We are not spoiled like someone mentioned. I understand the maids might be hard to handle sometimes, thats the side effect of having them right.
So deal with it :) or do your stuff yourself :)
^ And was i saying something else? i think if you read my post carefully i was also saying that we shouldnt be dependent on them else have to deal with them and ignore them.
And if you are use to doing the floors and dusting yourself than good for you doesnt mean everyone has to do it.
^ well good for you too and I dont have any dirty maid stories to share. So good luck communicating and getting makeup tips from them. :lol:
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HUH? seroiusly girl how old are you? cuz ur being childish. Who asked you to share your "dirty" maid stories. And i dont really have a problem in communicating or even getting tips from maids. They are after all humans too and at times much more intelligent that "some" people. So leave me and my topic alone since you dont have anything constructive to share.
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Excuse me! who here is complaining about their maids. You should be thankful that you have maids to do your work and not the other way around. And whats so wrong if I wrote that we prefere to do our work ourself and not be dependent on others. Dont get offened if I wrote something that you didnt like.
And now they are human beings ... LOL once again.
Okkkk so just because share how i think we have gotten so use 2 the maids...how and how exactly does that mean i was saying that they r not human? i m sorrie but are u on drugs or something?. I was actually saying its our fault that we r so dependent on them that we have to tolerate their wrong things too....now how exactly does that mean any of what you have been saying in all your posts!?!....................And i only said to u that good for u if u like 2 do all the house cleaning yrself cuz the way u wrote it was like saying we r wrong if we dont do that ourself....so it was actually u who was judging.
Seriously i think ur out of yr mind rite now or just wanting to start an argument cuz i dont see where and how was i degrading the maids or your preference to do your own work. Its none of my business so y wud i care what u do or dont do.
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Well I have nothing more to say or to waste my time here as we are going around in cirles … other than just go back and read your first post that you made, I bet you others will agree with me it sounds really childish and you were degrading them… it’s sad that they dont have anyone from their side to tell their side of the story - of what they have to tolerate for 3 times roti and stupid demands from their employees and hard and unfair labor.
Nor am I judging you, I think the whole systems of naukhers and maids sux in pakistan and I will speak against it, I may sound harsh but thats what I think of this topic.
I was in Lahore visiting a relative and saw with my own eyes what (the horrors they have to tolerate and their living conditions, even chickens here have better cages as them) and we can go on and say .. oh we are very nice to them and ppl are actually nice to them bla bla bla but they are “nakhras, bateemezis, choris” dont do our work properly, demand fresh rotis and what not …
Again I am not judging you, I am so aginst the system … the system that its so normal there to treat humans even worse than animals. :-/
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these kaam walis stare too much:rolleyes: i feel insecure around of them:omg:
that bold part is wht most angelish pakistanis hate the most about the arabs. obviously no one ever killed him/herself for a maid. its the maid that gets killed or to a lesser extent beaten to near death.
btw whatever you said does sound very funny. here is 1 LOL for you. :halo:
maybe u have/lack something they have/lack thus the staring on their part n insecurity on your part. 