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Education and upbringing (not every parent does it well) have a lot to do with this

Mohammad Asif’s Father
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As much as I feel sorry for Asif’s father, after watching this video I am not surprised why Asif and others behave the way they do…ab iss becharey ney kya upbringing kee hogee apney bachon kee!!!
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Many of great people of our earlier generation were brought up in similar villages to illiterate parents, it did not stop them from becoming honest professionals. This is hardly an excuse.

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I like the way asif’s father said

Othay killey thok da :hehe:

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Butt had education and what seemed like decent upbringing… and what did he do?

I used to believe in this education argument too. but after Butt’s involvement, I don’t know what to say any more…

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Wow I can't believe that some of the ppl on this site are blaming his father's training for Asif's crime. Asif is not 10 years old.

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Veena Malik ko Asif ka baap seedha kar deta waisay

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^^^^

:omg: :omg:

LOL true

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parental upbringing most definitely influences personality development... the way we all behave and view the world etc. That being said the principal blame lies with Asif because he is not a doodh peeta bacha any more

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Makes sense. Sorry I took your earlier post the wrong way. I edited my earlier post as well

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Yaaara GA, his father’s language, his father’s way of speaking is very normal for that part of Pak where he is from. I dont think up brining is any of problem…I am sure my parents or elders would swear ( almost ) exactly the same way for my innocence…if they find out about half of the stuff that I have done behind their backs all my life… (And believe me…there is stuff that I dont want no one finding out…lol)…thats just how parents are!

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Look at this for a better upbringing

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I saw that a long time ago…

utterly laughable… doing the sajdas, saying the prayers nonstop, etc and fixing matches behind it all.

also like the guy at 11:10 saying that he is very temperamental and he doesn’t like it when people aren’t straight. yeah right…

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Watch Wahab Riaz in the above video

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We should make this a separate thread as this discussion does not have anything to do with the spot fixing videos...

Imran may have sung verbal praise of Saeed Anwar but the facts of records show things differently. Imran had branded Anwar a one-day player only, not suitable for tests. That is why Saeed played only one test until 1994 when Imran was gone completely. That one test was against the mighty West Indies (at the time) where Saeed was made to open against the likes of Bishop, Ambrose and Marshall despite him being a middle order batsman (yes, Saeed Anwar was a middle order batsman that was forced to open to get into Pakistan team). Imran preferred the great batsmen like Aamer Malik, Ramiz Raja, Zahid Fazal, Saleem Malik, Mansoor Akhtar and Ijaz Ahmad over Saeed Anwar during the period 1989-1992. Even in one-days these batsmen were preferred over Saeed Anwar, specially when playing at home.

As far as Shoaib Mohammad is concerned, he may be average when compared to Miandad and Richards but within Pakistan team his record is second only to Miandad during his time and the best among all openers at the time. Just take a look at the test records of first choice openers/one down player of Imran Khan (Ramiz Raja and Aamer Malik, Mansoor Akhtar and Zahid Fazal) and Shoaib and it will be clear that Shoaib was head and shoulder better player than these gentlemen. Add in the fact that he was a superb fielder and a useful spinner to boot, the preference of mediocre players like Ramiz Raja over Shoaib is nonsensical. Shoaib did not play for some of the best years of his cricketing career when he scored tonnes of runs in first class but remained out of Pakistan team due to personal preferences and politics of Pakistan cricket.

A couple of other cricketers that suffered Imran's whimsical choices were Saleem Jaffar and Iqbal Qasim.

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Ramiz wasnt great but was not bad either. Ijaz Ahmed was very poorly utilized by Imran, he was the best to come up the order in Australia but Imran always sent him number 6,7 or even 8. Zahid Fazal as i remember was one down, never played as opener.

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I second that view

What about Hassan Nisar? Boy was he blunt and frank? I can fully empathise with him

@ 03:35

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This video is about the character of the journalist Mahar Mehmood how he traps people.

Sounds like Majeed got trapped in Mazhar’s persistent tactics. Not to say it was Majeed’s first time to find a deal for the players.

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^ It is a white-out!

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fixed

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^ Thanks

Well I w’d say that on the whole Mazhar is doing a good job despite his questionable methods of setting vulnerable people up and tricking them into doing things that they ‘probably’ would not otherwise have done. He is removing unwanted elements from the society. The principal fault still lies with those people who fall into his trap. As they say if you are good then everyone around you is good

And Kapil Dev said here: ‘duniya mein aapko ghalat log humesha miltey rahein gey, lekin agar aapka zameer saaf ho, agar aapka jazba zinda ho, to aap ghalat kaam kabhi nahin karein gey …agar aap apney des se ghuddari kar saktey hein to aap kissi se bhi ghuddari kar saktey hein’

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But according to his own statement on the video he has been doing it for 2.5 years.